Official France Box Office Thread

[LPLC]

Yes, but I find it stupid to force people to be vaccinated to go to the movies or elsewhere. It's as if we deprived people of freedom, they will no longer be able to do what they want, we force them to be vaccinated while I'm sure that many people do not want to be vaccinated and will be forced to do so because of of these measures. Also cases remain very low in France and deaths and hospital admissions in intensive care continue to drop, so I really don't know why Macron decided to do this now.

[john2000]

11 hours ago, LPLC said:

Entrées réalisées du 7 au 11 juillet 2021 :

Rang	Titre	Distributeur	Entrées	Séances	Moyenne	Cumul	Semaine
1	BLACK WIDOW	DISNEY	702 553	13 464	52	702 553	1
2	LES CROODS 2	UNIVERSAL	344 597	10 996	31	344 597	1
3	CRUELLA	DISNEY	151 826	8 569	18	1 101 360	3
4	PIERRE LAPIN 2	SONY	136 402	8 251	17	618 751	2
5	CONJURING 3	WARNER	81 289	4 756	17	1 797 064	5
6	LE SENS DE LA FAMILLE	GAUMONT	76 824	7 175	11	360 385	2
7	ANNETTE	UGC	73 410	3 856	19	98 939	1
8	BENEDETTA	PATHE	67 643	2 905	23	67 643	1
9	PRÉSIDENTS	UNIVERSAL	67 639	6 517	10	316 984	2
10	OPÉRATION PORTUGAL	SONY	47 010	3 848	12	392 573	3
11	SANS UN BRUIT 2	PARAMOUNT	38 297	3 150	12	610 230	4
12	NOMADLAND	DISNEY	37 314	2 295	16	479 497	5
13	HITMAN & BODYGUARD 2	METROPOLITAN	33 074	4 393	8	247 862	2
14	LA CHAPELLE DU DIABLE	SONY	31 677	2 263	14	31 677	1
15	LA FINE FLEUR	DIAPHANA	28 763	3 296	9	145 151	2

 

I expected a little more in view of the revenues announced by Disney in France, but it's good it does not matter 700k admissions crossed in the first weekend and BW already achieves the best start of 2021 ahead of Conjuring 3 (665k admissions) and the 2nd best postcovid start behind Tenet in August 2020 (809k admissions). In the end it should reach something around 1.5M-2M admissions like Ant man 2 which had started a little higher and which had finished at 1.85M admissions

 

here are the new forecasts of the week from Cine-directors : 

 

 

BOX-OFFICE France (du 7 au 13 juillet 2021) (Prévisions)
Rang	TITRE	Entrées	Variation hebdo	Cumul (Millions)	Budget	Nbre de copies	Moy / Copie
1	Black widow	870 000	New	0,870	- M€	607	1 433
2	Les Croods 2 : Une nouvelle ère	440 000	New	0,440	- M$	693	635
3	Cruella	195 000	- 66 %	1,145	- M$	598	318
4	Pierre Lapin 2	170 000	- 65 %	0,652	- M$	612	270
5	Conjuring 3	105 000	- 71 %	1,821	- M$	517	193
6	Le sens de la famille	100 000	- 65 %	0,384	10 M€	510	196
7	Benedetta	95 000	New	0,095	19,8 M€	362	262
8	Annette	95 000	New	0,121	18,6 M€	242	393
9	Présidents	90 000	- 64 %	0,339	4,5 M€	446	202
10	Opération Portugal	60 000	- 70 %	0,406	1,2 M€	353	170
11	Sans un bruit 2	50 000	- 75 %	0,522	61 M$	529	95
12	Nomadland	50 000	- 57 %	0,492	- M$	419	119
13	Hitman & Bodyguard 2	40 000	- 81 %	0,255	- M$	437	92
14	La chapelle du Diable	40 000	New	0,040	- M$	116	345
15	La fine fleur	40 000	- 66 %	0,156	6 M€	330	121
16	Un homme en colère	(40 000)	- 72 %	0,438	- M$	418	96
17	The deep house	35 000	- 77 %	0,185	5,8 M€	199	755
18	Un espion ordinaire	- 000	+ 12 %	0,219	- M$	322	360
19	Un tour chez ma fille	- 000	- 9 %	0,354	9,7 M€	752	132
20	Les 2 Alfred	- 000	- 11 %	0,311	3,9 M€	514	176
-	Les Bouchetrous	- 000	+ 22 %	0,384	- M$	465	164
-	Adieu les cons	- 000	+ 35 %	1,888	10,3 M€	417	180
-	Le discours	- 000	- 33 %	0,321	5,6 M€	630	67
-	Tom et Jerry	- 000	+ 18 %	0,580	50 M$	310	135
-	The father	- 000	- 13 %	0,551	6 M€	296	131

 

 

Finally, I have to share some very bad news. President Macron announced in a speech this evening that to go to the cinema and other public places it will now be necessary to have a vaccination passport, that is to say that it will be necessary to be fully vaccinated to go to the cinema. In France, only 35% of the population is fully vaccinated which means that there will be a lot less admissions and income to the cinema in France, but when I say a lot less, I'm not kidding, it will be awful and there will be considerable drops in attendance. BW and others films will have shitty legs and the big French movie Kaamelott which was due out on July 21 and which could easily have achieved 2 million admissions in OW and 5 million admissions in the end may not even make 1/3 of that. I am very disappointed and saddened by these new measures.

https://deadline.com/2021/07/french-cinemas-to-require-health-pass-from-july-21-cannes-1234790773/

 

 

 

The health pass certifies that people are either fully vaccinated or have recently tested negative for Covid.

 

 

so a negative test is sufficient too

 

 

[LPLC]

I saw polls this morning and believe me that no one in France is ready to be tested 48 hours in advance just to see a movie.

[LPLC]

 

It's huge, best start since The Lion King in July 2019 and better start of the franchise. I feel like people are rushing to the movies this week touting the health pass requirement to access theaters next week. So sure it's a huge start for the first day and the first week will be big too but expect big big falls next week (maybe something in the -70%)

Edited July 15, 2021 by LPLC

[LPLC]

BOX-OFFICE prévisionnel (du 14 au 20 juillet 2021)
Rang	Titre	Entrées	Variation hebdo	Cumul (Millions)	Budget	Nbre de salles
1	Fast & furious 9	1 750 000	New	1,750	- M$	756
2	Black widow	545 000	- 40 %	1,454	- M$	607
3	Les Croods 2 : Une nouvelle ère	400 000	- 20 %	0,901	- M$	693
4	Ainbo	200 000	New	0,200	- M$	416
5	Désigné coupable	180 000	New	0,180	14 M$	313
6	Mystère à St-Tropez	150 000	New	0,150	16,2 M€	505
7	Cruella	x 000	- 66 %	1,145	- M$	655
8	Pierre Lapin 2	x 000	- 65 %	0,652	- M$	608
9	Benedetta	110 000	- 0 %	0,221	19,8 M€	361
10	Conjuring 3	x 000	- 71 %	1,821	- M$	433
-	Le sens de la famille	x 000	- 65 %	0,384	10 M€	513
-	Annette	65 000	- 35 %	0,189	18,6 M€	242
-	Titane	60 000	New	0,060	7,3 M€	199
-	Présidents	x 000	- 64 %	0,339	4,5 M€	522
-	Bergman Island	40 000	New	0,040	5,8 M€	167
-	Opération Portugal	x 000	- 70 %	0,406	1,2 M€	552

 

[charlie Jatinder]

Under F9 Week 1. What a shame. I thought F9 will drop today since Holiday may be of one day.

[Parasite]

 

Over 130k tickets sold for Kaamelott's Tuesday previews as of now. Not totally sure on that, but I believe the preview record for a French film is Qu'est-ce qu'on a encore fait au bon Dieu with around 160k. 

[LPLC]

Too bad for Kaamelott that the health pass arrives at the same time, I think that many reservations will have to be canceled because of unvaccinated people. And the admissions of his 1st weekend and his 1st week will be significantly below those that should have been. Let's hope for good numbers anyway.

[charlie Jatinder]

THU of F9 seems like will be lower than what BW had last week. May be BW win full run.

 

 

[LPLC]

6 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

THU of F9 seems like will be lower than what BW had last week. May be BW win full run.

 

 

No I don't think so, F9 should be around 700k admissions over the first 3 days without the biggest days of Saturday and Sunday. And by the end of his first week it will have almost caught up with BW who will have already been in theaters for 2 whole weeks. Then it is a question of legs for who will finish first and with the health pass from July 21, admissions will drop for all films and no film will have legs. Fast and Furious 9 will therefore have the advantage of having had a much better first week than BW.

[john2000]

1 minute ago, LPLC said:

No I don't think so, F9 should be around 700k admissions over the first 3 days without the biggest days of Saturday and Sunday. And by the end of his first week it will have almost caught up with BW who will have already been in theaters for 2 whole weeks. Then it is a question of legs for who will finish first and with the health pass from July 21, admissions will drop for all films and no film will have legs. Fast and Furious 9 will therefore have the advantage of having had a much better first week than BW.

i am suprised that fast 9 is doing better than black widow 

[LPLC]

Honestly me too, it may be thanks to the Cannes Film Festival or because of the effect of the health pass that begins on Wednesday, people are rushing to the cinemas before they can no longer go.

[charlie Jatinder]

4 hours ago, LPLC said:

No I don't think so, F9 should be around 700k admissions over the first 3 days without the biggest days of Saturday and Sunday.

Well not exactly 3 days. Include big 118K previews and WED was National holiday. THU and FRI aren't that ahead Black Widow. 

 

Estimated daily numbers for Widow from Paris. Only opening day WED are actuals, rest all estimates.

 

	Black Widow			F9
	Paris	France		Paris	France
Wed	45,387	182,470	24.87%	74,497	350,077	21.28%
Thu	29,815	108,000	27.61%	28,932	116,000	24.94%
Fri	28,848	109,000	26.47%	30,021	123,000	24.41%
Sat	42,905	175,000	24.52%
Sun	30,050	128,000	23.48%
Mon	19,973	92,000	21.71%
Tue	20,607	114,500	18.00%
Wed	24,608	137,000	17.96%
Thu	10,897	47,000	23.19%
Fri	12,080	53,000	22.79%

[LPLC]

Yeah and despite big previews and national holiday Wednesday, F9 appears to be bigger than BW on Thursday and Friday, and it will still be on Saturday and Sunday. Then everything will collapse after next Wednesday.

Edited July 17, 2021 by LPLC

[Parasite]

206 000 admissions in previews for Kaamelott yesterday. It sold 36,600 tickets in pre-sales at Pathé-Gaumont, which would be exceptional if it plays like a French film (3x previous record), but kinda lackluster if compared to American fan driven franchises... 

 

Meh 9am all around (first day of Pass Sanitaire). Kaamelott holds a 4,4/5 audience score on Allocine but only hardcore fans have seen it so far. 

 

Some theaters (mostly arthouse and independant) are limiting their screen capacity to 50 seats per show so that the Pass Sanitaire isn't applied. 

 

[LPLC]

The next few weeks will be catastrophic for the French box office and unfortunately Kaamelott did not come out at the right time.

[charlie Jatinder]

Opening Days

 

45,224

43,384 ($370K)

[Menor the Destroyer]

Health pass or no, TSS having a Wed OD barely ahead of Jungle Cruise doesn't seem good. Jungle Cruise will have the advantage on weekends and should be less frontloaded in general unless WOM for TSS is truly exceptional. 

Edited July 29, 2021 by Menor

[Parasite]

           21/07-28/07 top 20 : 

 

Rank	Title	Admissions	Hold	Cume	Budget	Screens	Average
1	Kaamelott - Premier volet	1 015 000	New	1,015	14,8 M€	807	1 257
2	Fast 9	249 000	- 81 %	1,550	- M$	756	329
3	Space Jam 2	183 000	New	0,183	150 M$	463	395
4	Black Widow	130 000	- 71 %	1,450	200 M$	649	200
5	The Croods 2	120 000	- 58 %	0,909	65 M$	967	124
6	Old	106 000	New	0,106	- M$	300	353
7	The Mauritanian	61 000	- 59 %	0,210	14 M$	336	182
8	Titane	57 000	- 35 %	0,146	7,3 M€	227	252
9	Ainbo	57 000	- 48 %	0,197	- M$	495	115
10	Cruella	51 000	- 66 %	1,367	- M$	531	95
11	Peter Rabbit 2	48 000	- 58 %	0,856	45 M$	686	71
12	Benedetta	48 000	- 55 %	0,266	19,8 M€	540	89
13	Mystère à St-Tropez	38 000	- 68 %	0,154	16,2 M€	505	75
14	Annette	37 000	- 45 %	0,202	18,6 M€	345	107
15	Spiral	34 000	New	0,034	20 M$	222	153
16	Présidents	19 000	- 62 %	0,416	4,5 M€	443	43
17	Bergman Island	15 000	- 52 %	0,047	5,8 M€	186	81
18	Le sens de la famille	15 000	- 75 %	0,475	10 M€	360	41
19	Onoda	15 000	New	0,015	- M€	105	139
20	Nomadland	13 000	- 51 %	0,535	5 M$	157	86

 

 

Cataclysmic week because of the health pass. Kaamelott sold 310 000 admissions in one evening of previews...but then only 116k on its official OD (the first day of pass sanitaire). Its 1M OWeek is still fine and ensures a sequel will happen. 4.1/5 audience score on Allociné.

 

Titane is the only good hold this week thanks to the Palme d'or boost (in a normal week, it would've had an increase). Onoda's score isn't good, despite rave reviews (4.4/5 critics score). Overall the week was down 42%, despite Kaamelott's opening. Multiplexes were down 60% while small (less than 5 screens) theaters were only down 30%. 

 

28/07/21 ODs : 

1. The Suicide Squad - 45 224 admissions (561 screens)

2. Jungle Cruise - 43 384 (538)

3. Spirit - 31 308 (inc. 11 029) (454)

4. Just 6.5 - 6 114 (including 1051 previews) (128)

 

TSS (3.7 audience score) and JC (3.4) will fight for second place (Kaamelott will probably win the week) with around 300k each. JC's score is actually decent. It had the same OD as Cruella a few weeks ago (excluding previews).

 

Edited July 29, 2021 by Parasite

[charlie Jatinder]

Monday and Tuesday hold seems quite okay for Black Widow, so I suppose health pass impact has gone down. 

 

In fact Croods 2 was only 15% down in Mon-Tue.

Edited July 31, 2021 by charlie Jatinder