Cooper Legion Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, danhtruong5 said: How much presale for a movie to ensure that it will be successful and make lots of money? I mean, a lot varies depending on expectations, PS:OW ratio, and OW:total legs. The case of F2 is a complicated one since the only HW sequels to movies as big as the first have been Avengers entries, and those are front loaded fan affairs with huge PSs, whereas Frozen 1 was more of a great leggy run based on reception. I'm hoping F2 can pull at least 10M, but that will for sure require good reception. The road there would involve better PS:OW ratio and legs than Avengers style megahits, so it can get by with lower PS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) F2 will make lots of money in Korea. That is given. Already looking at PS its behaving like a hyped sequel. I doubt it will behave anything like the 1st movie(which was flat 1st 4 weeks or so). That said it should hit the frontloadedness of Marvel mega blockbuster either. I think hitting 1st movie gross requires into the unknown becoming another Let it go. Only time will tell if that will happen. Edited November 8, 2019 by keysersoze123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2019.11.08 PM 5:50 KST Melon 실검 Frozen Into The Unknown (Korean version) by Taeyeon top 1 Melon chart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ 95 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, PKMLover said: 2019.11.08 PM 5:50 KST Melon 실검 Frozen Into The Unknown (Korean version) by Taeyeon top 1 Melon chart. It's not melon chart, it's melon trending keyword. In melon currently, that song ranking is 42. Here is melon chart : https://www.melon.com/chart/index.htm Edited November 8, 2019 by RJ 95 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Frozen 2 presale: around 57k (+21k from yesterday) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 11/8/2019 at 10:01 PM, PKMLover said: Frozen 2 presale: around 57k (+21k from yesterday) Frozen 2 T-12 presale: around 75k (+18k from yesterday) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, PKMLover said: Frozen 2 T-12 presale: around 75k (+18k from yesterday) Frozen 2 T-11 presale: 97.502 Edited November 10, 2019 by PKMLover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I think it should be D-10, given the Nov 21 release date? I was getting a bit overexcited earlier, but PS still comfortably above everything but IW and Endgame for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Thanos Legion said: I think it should be D-10, given the Nov 21 release date? I was getting a bit overexcited earlier, but PS still comfortably above everything but IW and Endgame for now. "above everything but IW and Endgame for now."??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, PKMLover said: "above everything but IW and Endgame for now."??? The D-10 PS are below IW (Endgame hadn’t even started PS yet) but comfortably above all other HW movies afaik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Seeing some nice acceleration this afternoon, as I was hoping. If it keeps up should be 125-128ish end of day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 What are we looking at @Thanos Legion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Jedi Jat said: What are we looking at @Thanos Legion? I’m hesitant to say much since, in addition to being a week and a half out, presale started quite early compared to usual high PS movies (I.e. MCU) and there are no real comparisons in terms of being a HW family movie sequel with a predecessor nearly the size of Frozen. At least F2 may be a good comp for Aladdin sequel 😛 But the short story is that presale are very, very, VERY strong right now. Will be 120k minimum for D-09, above e.g. CM D-06 and FFH D-03. Low 60s% of IW PS at same point, and of course IW PS were crazy. From here final PS should beat every Hollywood movie but Avengers, 600k+ being pretty conservative. IMO that should lead to 3.5M+ weekend and 10M+ finish, as long as reception is good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said: I’m hesitant to say much since, in addition to being a week and a half out, presale started quite early compared to usual high PS movies (I.e. MCU) and there are no real comparisons in terms of being a HW family movie sequel with a predecessor nearly the size of Frozen. At least F2 may be a good comp for Aladdin sequel 😛 But the short story is that presale are very, very, VERY strong right now. Will be 120k minimum for D-09, above e.g. CM D-06 and FFH D-03. Low 60s% of IW PS at same point, and of course IW PS were crazy. From here final PS should beat every Hollywood movie but Avengers, 600k+ being pretty conservative. IMO that should lead to 3.5M+ weekend and 10M+ finish, as long as reception is good. I did not look much at the PS in South Korea but now it is around 120k, and you said it would be 600k+ near the release date.... that is quite a huge jump.... So PS will jump up very much near the release date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, PKMLover said: I did not look much at the PS in South Korea but now it is around 120k, and you said it would be 600k+ near the release date.... that is quite a huge jump.... So PS will jump up very much near the release date? That’s actually pretty conservative, as I said. Final day sees big sales, I think D-01 at 420 would make D-0 600+ very likely. 120->420 is just x3.5. x3.5 in 8 days needs just +20% per day. It’s hard to say just how this will behave for the next days, it even the notoriously frontloaded PS run for CM saw x5 from D-09 to D-01. Edited November 11, 2019 by Thanos Legion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 23 hours ago, PKMLover said: Frozen 2 T-10 presale: 97.502 Frozen 2 T-09 presale: 128.332 (+30.830) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Should be headed to 162-ish today. Maintaining a pace of roughly double CM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said: Should be headed to 162-ish today. Maintaining a pace of roughly double CM. Does this mean it is doing well in South Korea??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 10:04 PM, PKMLover said: Frozen 2 T-09 presale: 128.332 (+30.830) Frozen 2 T- 08 presale: 163.496 (+35.164) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 7 hours ago, PKMLover said: Does this mean it is doing well in South Korea??? Well? It's doing phenomenal, only movies it should trail by the end are the last 2 Avengers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...