Monsters University OS (Settling for fine 480M OS total)

[Goffe]

I was talking about MU's run in Japan. It's going to make more in Yen than MI, which is phenomenal as MI was one of the biggest Pixar movies ever in Japan. 

hmm ok then, Japan gross is amazing I agree

[Olive]

It's amazing run in OS considering direct competition from DM2 and MOS.

[John Marston]

It's amazing run in OS considering direct competition from DM2 and MOS.

 

 

it did extremely well in Japan and a few other countries but in some countries it did average business

[Tower]

It's amazing run in OS considering direct competition from DM2 and MOS.

 

That is pretty average competition.

[Will Hunting]

Overall, i think its a good run, not amazing definitely. I was expecting more in some countries though.

[Heretic]

Originally I was expecting over $70m in the UK. However, it looks like it'll end up with around $45m. Still good, but not amazing. DM2, on the other hand, will end up with around $70m instead, so it's understandable that not both can do it, Especially with DM2 having opened just before MU. July also saw one of the longest and hottest spells of weather in the UK for many years, which meant all films, not just MU suffered. July admissions were abnormally low compared to previous years in the 21st century.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

It is a good run and it falls right on overal expectations.

[kayumanggi]

That is pretty average competition.

 

Those two are the 3rd and 5th biggest grossing titles this summer overseas. Not average at all.

[Olive]

MOS and DM2 combined made more than 800M OS!

That's average?

[Goffe]

MOS and DM2 combined made more than 800M OS!

That's average?

yes, MOS is not even a direct competition. Tough competition would be films like Ice Age 4 or TS3

[druv10]

Those two are the 3rd and 5th biggest grossing titles this summer overseas. Not average at all.

 

 

And that's not including markets like Australia where DM2 was released on the same day so it definitely had big competition. Legs were great for it especially with a chance at finishing around 480M+. 

[A Marvel Fanboy]

While I do agree the competition is not a big deal this summer. Overally it's been a slow summer.

 

Check 2011/2012, that's nuts.

Edited August 24, 2013 by firedeep

[druv10]

With openings in Italy and China + Japan and other holdovers, MU should be around 430M after Sunday. 480 is looking likely with outside shot at 500M. 

Edited August 24, 2013 by druv10

[Tower]

MOS and DM2 combined made more than 800M OS!

That's average?

OS releases are more spread out so it isn't really about just those 2. but looking back at Pixar releases:

 

Brave: Madagacar 3 (526M), TASM (490M), IA4 (716M), TDKR (636M)= 2.37B, including 1.24B from animated films alone.

Cars 2: KFP 2 (500M), Transformers 3 (771M), HP8 (960M)= 2.23B

Toy Story 3: Shrek 4 (514M), Twilight 3 (498M), DM (292M)= 1.3B

Up: NATM2 (236M), Transformers 2 (434M), IA 3 (690M), HP6 (632M)= 2B

 

MU had pretty weak competition for a film releasing in the middle of the summer. If you want to have no competition you have to release in the off season.

Edited August 24, 2013 by Tower

[A Marvel Fanboy]

OS releases are more spread out so it isn't really about just those 2. but looking back at Pixar releases:

 

Brave: Madagacar 3 (526M), TASM (490M), IA4 (716M), TDKR (636M)= 2.37B, including 1.24B from animated films alone.

Cars 2: KFP 2 (500M), Transformers 3 (771M), HP8 (960M)= 2.23B

Toy Story 3: Shrek 4 (514M), Twilight 3 (498M), DM (292M)= 1.3B

Up: NATM2 (236M), Transformers 2 (434M), IA 3 (690M), HP6 (632M)= 2B

 

MU had pretty weak competition for a film releasing in the middle of the summer. If you want to have no competition you have to release in the off season.

Exactly.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

It is a very weak summer OS in recent years with only one 600m+ OS grosser and one 500m+ grosser and two 400m+.

 

The only major release that got lost in competition was STiD due to being too weak itself.

[zackzack]

It is a very weak summer OS in recent years with only one 600m+ OS grosser and one 500m+ grosser and two 400m+.

 

The only major release that got lost in competition was STiD due to being too weak itself.

 

Yea, you are right there. Look at 2012 & 2011 Summer OS

(Top 5 Summer Movies Os earning)

 

2012

TA        $888M

IA4       $715M

TDKR   $636M

MAD3   $525M

MIB3     $445

Total $3.2B

 

2011

HP DH2        $960M

PIRATES 4   $802M

TF4              $771M

KFP2            $500M

SMURFS      $421M

Total $3.4B

 

Now 2013

IM3          $804M

FF6          $547M

DM2         $435M

MU           $400M

MoS         $360M

Total $2.5B

 

Gru & MU are beaten by Panda & Smurfs of 2011? Hard to believe.

2013 is very underwhelming....  

Edited August 25, 2013 by zackzack

[Tower]

Yea, you are right there. Look at 2012 & 2011 Summer OS

(Top 5 Summer Movies Os earning)

 

2012

TA        $888M

IA4       $715M

TDKR   $636M

MAD3   $525M

MIB3     $445

Total $3.2B

 

2011

HP DH2        $960M

PIRATES 4   $802M

TF4              $771M

KFP2            $500M

SMURFS      $421M

Total $3.4B

 

Now 2013

IM3          $804M

FF6          $547M

DM2         $435M

MU           $400M

MoS         $360M

Total $2.5B

 

Gru & MU are beaten by Panda & Smurfs of 2011? Hard to believe.

2013 is very underwhelming....  

 

DM2 and MU aren't done yet and will pass those films, but 2013 won't come anywhere near that total.

[Sam]

Yea, you are right there. Look at 2012 & 2011 Summer OS(Top 5 Summer Movies Os earning)2012TA $888MIA4 $715MTDKR $636MMAD3 $525MMIB3 $445Total $3.2B2011HP DH2 $960MPIRATES 4 $802MTF4 $771MKFP2 $500MSMURFS $421MTotal $3.4BNow 2013IM3 $804MFF6 $547MDM2 $435MMU $400MMoS $360MTotal $2.5BGru & MU are beaten by Panda & Smurfs of 2011? Hard to believe.2013 is very underwhelming....

In 2012, TASM grossed more than MIB3 OS.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

Summer 2013 is even worse if you look at the top 10:

 

2013

1. IM3 804M

2. FF6 550M

3. MU 480M

4. DM2 480M

5. MoS 370M

6. WWZ 330M

7. PR 300M

8. Smurfs 280M

9. Wolverine 270M

10. STiD/TH3 240M

top 10 combined: 41.04B

 

2012

1. TA 888M

2. IA4 716M

3. TDKR 636M

4. Mad3 525M

5. TASM 490M

6. MIB3 445M

7. Ted 330M

8. Brave 301M

9. Prometheus 276M

10. SWATH/BS 240M

top 10 combined: 48.47B

 

2011

1. HP8 960M

2. POTC4 802M

3. TF3 771M

4. KFP2 500M

5. Smurf 421M

6. FF5 416M

7. Cars2 368M

8. TH2 332M

9. Apes 305M

10. Thor 268M

top 10 combined: 51.43B

 

2010

1. TS3 648M

2. Inception 533M

3. Shrek4 513M

4. Twilight3 398M

5. IM2 311M

6. DM 291M

7. PoP 244M

8. RH 216M

9. T&tC2 193M

10. TLA 187M

top 10 combined: 35.34B

 

2009

1. IA3 690M

2. HP6 632M

3. UP 438M

4. TF2 434M

5. A&D 352M

6. T4 246M

7. NatM2 235M

8. Wov 193M

9. Hangover 190M

10. G-F 173M

top 10 combined: 35.83B

 

Averaged top-10-combined for last 5 summers: 42.42B

 

Clearly Summer 2013, despite being stronger than 2009 and 2010 due to 3D and expanding markets, is no match to that of 2011 and 2012.

 

Actually Summer 2013 is 15% down from 2012, 20% down from 2011, and is weaker than the ave. of the last 5 Summers.

 

In the animation and family movie category:

the three titles in 2013 totaled 1.14B

3 in 2012 totaled 1.542B

3 in 2011 totaled 1.289B

3 in 2010 totaled 1.452B

3 in 2009 totaled 1.301B or  1.536B depending on if NatM2 counted or not

 

Clearly to say MU faced heavy competition is so untrue. By no means, the competition in Summer 2013 is harsh. And actually MU had the most relaxing summer, by far, compared with the last 5.

 

Out of the top 10, 9 titles are in 3D in 2013, 7 in 2012, 6 in 2011, 3 in 2010 and 3 in 2009.

 

Meanwhile, in China, Summer 2013 doubled Summer 2010 ....

 

So overally, Summer 2013 is not only a big direct step down from 2012 and 2011,  if you take out 3D, inflation (and expanding markets), it actually also draw less admissions than 2010 or 2009 from oversea.

 

All in All, Summer 2013 is huge letdown. [Not only summer, Spring and Winter look weaker than previou years too]

Edited August 25, 2013 by firedeep