The Warner Bros. Thread | Will NOT merge with Paramount...capitalism is still terrible

[ChipDerby]

1 minute ago, Bob Train said:

It also has at least $120m in marketing, whereas it generated at most $130m in theatrical receipts

 

So how did it lose that much, lol. The numbers aren't numbering.

[Bob Train]

6 minutes ago, ChipDerby said:

 

So how did it lose that much, lol. The numbers aren't numbering.

200m production +120m advertising = 320m in costs. Box office revenue was around 120m. So it lost around $200m before counting in ancillaries like streaming, rentals, PVOD.

[Human]

19 hours ago, Bob Train said:

before counting in ancillaries like streaming, rentals, PVOD.

Currently it is not doing well in them either.

[WittyUsername]

 

In what way was Harry Potter underutilized?

Edited September 8, 2023 by WittyUsername

[ChipDerby]

31 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

 

In what way was Harry Potter underutilized?

 

He's probably just looking at what Disney is doing with Marvel and Star Wars and asking why there haven't been spinoffs and tv shows of like each character in HP/LOTR. I guess if you look at it like that, he's right. You could technically be expanding on each of those properties, but they haven't really.

[WittyUsername]

3 minutes ago, ChipDerby said:

 

He's probably just looking at what Disney is doing with Marvel and Star Wars and asking why there haven't been spinoffs and tv shows of like each character in HP/LOTR. I guess if you look at it like that, he's right. You could technically be expanding on each of those properties, but they haven't really.

Well, there is a reason for that; WB doesn’t have full ownership of Harry Potter or LotR. The licensing agreement with Tolkien’s estate means that works like The Silmarillion are off-limits, and WB tried to get a Cursed Child adaptation made, but JK Rowling said no. 
 

Anyway, the fact that Zaslav is so desperate to turn WB into a dollar store version of Disney is especially lame, because Disney isn’t even doing great right now. 

[PlatnumRoyce]

59 minutes ago, ChipDerby said:

 

He's probably just looking at what Disney is doing with Marvel and Star Wars and asking why there haven't been spinoffs and tv shows of like each character in HP/LOTR. I guess if you look at it like that, he's right. You could technically be expanding on each of those properties, but they haven't really.

Zaslov's quote is explicitly pretending Harry Potter is separate from "The Wizarding World." This is either revisionist history or spin from Zaslov. It's self-evident that Fantastic Beasts 2-5 are basically a working of Rowling's half-formed plans for a HP prequel series focused on Dumbledore. "HP prequel series + big tentpole video game" is a pretty significant use of the franchise and they'd be pretty well set up to explore further 1920s-1940s Wizarding World spinoffs. 

FB2 just bombing which caused WB to short circuit that plan and force FB3 to be save and serve as a possible franchise ender. 
 

 

[ChipDerby]

I'm not saying he's being reasonable! I'm just saying that's probably how he thinks. Because most rich executives are just incredibly dumb.

[dudalb]

2 hours ago, ChipDerby said:

 

He's probably just looking at what Disney is doing with Marvel and Star Wars and asking why there haven't been spinoffs and tv shows of like each character in HP/LOTR. I guess if you look at it like that, he's right. You could technically be expanding on each of those properties, but they haven't really.

Which might be just as well as far as LOTR goes. I just don't think it lends isefl well to spinoffs...as Rings of Power showed.

Note to Warners: a novel with the stature of LOTR is NOT the same as a comic book franchise and you can't treat it the same.

[dudalb]

2 hours ago, WittyUsername said:

Well, there is a reason for that; WB doesn’t have full ownership of Harry Potter or LotR. The licensing agreement with Tolkien’s estate means that works like The Silmarillion are off-limits, and WB tried to get a Cursed Child adaptation made, but JK Rowling said no. 
 

Anyway, the fact that Zaslav is so desperate to turn WB into a dollar store version of Disney is especially lame, because Disney isn’t even doing great right now. 

The SIm being off limits is one of the things that hurt Rings of Power; The SIm and not the LOTR appencides is where Tolkien really goes into detail on the Fall of Numenor and the crap they came up with to replace the Sim material was vastly inferior to what was in the Sim.

[Scubasteve716]

On 9/5/2023 at 9:51 AM, JWR said:

 

Luiz says stuff quite often that makes no sense. This is one of them

Edited September 9, 2023 by Scubasteve716
Typo

[The GOAT]

On 9/7/2023 at 8:53 AM, ChipDerby said:

 

"The Flash cost $200 mil to produce, and it's going to lose more than that" is the Hollywood accounting that we can trust!

 Watch for yourself

[SpiderByte]

 

[ChipDerby]

Warner Bros is near bankruptcy!!!

[YM!]

18 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

 

This is cool and I’d be salivating for sets of Gotham, Metropolis and Hall of Justice being akin to the Harry Potter sets but it’s fucking odd the studio can afford an expansion that’ll likely be tens of millions yet unable to pay their fucking actors and writers especially under the argument they can’t afford it.

[ChipDerby]

 

[Bob Train]

1 hour ago, YM! said:

This is cool and I’d be salivating for sets of Gotham, Metropolis and Hall of Justice being akin to the Harry Potter sets but it’s fucking odd the studio can afford an expansion that’ll likely be tens of millions yet unable to pay their fucking actors and writers especially under the argument they can’t afford it.

They were always able to pay them, they just chose not to.

[JWR]

14 hours ago, SpiderByte said:

 

 

This is a huge show of confidence. 

[Jonwo]

16 hours ago, YM! said:

This is cool and I’d be salivating for sets of Gotham, Metropolis and Hall of Justice being akin to the Harry Potter sets but it’s fucking odd the studio can afford an expansion that’ll likely be tens of millions yet unable to pay their fucking actors and writers especially under the argument they can’t afford it.

It's show business, not show charity.

[Speedorito]

41 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

It's show business, not show charity.

When is paying the people who make money for you become “show charity”?