POTUS 2020 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 LiHK TF4 MH Day Yn % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Yn Daily % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Yn Daily % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Thur 10 10 2 165 165 27 Fri 200 210 34 195 195 32 132 297 48 Sat 246 23.0% 456 72 223 14.4% 418 69 188 42.4% 485 78 Sun 225 -8.5% 681 107 213 -4.6% 631 103 184 -2.1% 669 108 Mon 91 -59.6% 772 121 123 -42.1% 754 124 110 -40.2% 779 125 Tues 75 -17.6% 847 133 112 -8.9% 866 142 103 -6.4% 882 142 Wed 90 20.0% 937 147 95 -15.7% 961 157 85 -17.5% 967 156 Thur 125 38.9% 1062 167 84 -11.0% 1045 171 83 -2.4% -49.7% 1050 169 Fri 105 -16.0% -47.5% 1167 183 87 3.4% -55.3% 1132 186 81 -2.4% -38.6% 1131 182 Sat 88 -16.2% -64.2% 1255 197 130 48.8% -41.9% 1262 207 121 49.4% -35.6% 1252 202 Sun 72 -18.2% -68.0% 1327 209 118 -9.0% -44.6% 1379 226 125 3.3% -32.1% 1377 222 Mon 65 -9.7% -28.6% 1392 219 54 -58.3% -56.1% 1433 235 64 -48.8% -41.8% 1441 232 Tue 55 -15.4% -26.7% 1447 228 53 -1.9% -52.8% 1486 244 62 -3.1% -39.8% 1503 242 Wed 35 -36.4% -61.1% 1482 233 43 -18.9% -54.5% 1529 251 57 -8.1% -32.9% 1560 251 Thu 15 -57.1% -88.0% 1497 235 39 -9.3% -53.7% 1568 257 44 -22.8% -47.0% 1604 258 Fri 14 -10.0% -87.1% 1510.5 238 42 7.7% -51.8% 1610 264 47 6.8% -42.0% 1651 266 Sat 18 33.3% -79.5% 1528.5 240 62 47.6% -52.2% 1672 274 78 66.0% -35.5% 1729 278 Sun 28 55.6% -61.1% 1556.5 245 58 -6.45% -50.8% 1730 284 72 -7.69% -42.4% 1801 290 Mon 12 -57.1% -81.5% 1568.5 247 26 -55.2% -51.9% 1756 288 38 -47.2% -40.6% 1839 296 Tue 11 -10.0% -80.4% 1579.3 248 28 7.7% -47.2% 1784 293 36 -5.3% -41.9% 1875 302 Wed 10 -10.2% -72.3% 1589 250 23 -17.9% -46.5% 1807 296 30 -16.7% -47.4% 1905 307 Thu 8 -17.5% -46.7% 1597 262 18 -21.7% -53.8% 1825 299 27 -10.0% -38.6% 1932 311 Fri 18 0.0% -57.1% 1843 302 28.5 5.6% -39.4% 1961 316 Sat 24 33.3% -61.3% 1867 306 44.4 55.8% -43.1% 2005 323 Sun 20 -16.7% -65.5% 1887 309 46.9 5.63% -34.9% 2052 330 Mon 10 -50.0% -61.5% 1897 311 23.4 -50.1% -38.4% 2075 334 Tue 10 0.0% -64.3% 1907 313 24.3 3.8% -32.5% 2100 338 Wed 10 0.0% -56.5% 1917 314 20.8 -14.4% -30.7% 2120 341 Thu 9 -10.0% -50.0% 1926 316 16.2 -22.1% -40.0% 2137 344 Fri 11 22.2% -38.9% 1937 318 18.3 13.0% -35.8% 2155 347 Sat 11 0.0% -54.2% 1948 319 28.7 56.8% -35.4% 2184 351 Sun 28.9 0.70% -38.4% 2212 356 Mon 13.9 -51.9% -40.6% 2226 358 Tue 13.9 0.0% -42.8% 2240 360 Proj 1700 267 1948 319 2440 391 Falling fast and projection lowered to 1.675-1.7B if it can maintain 50-60% drops after next week. LIT was a surprise hit and had long legs. This is standard sequel frontloadedness but overall a good performance improving 38% on the first installment. Cant sneeze at 1.7B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernus Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Firedeep did predict 85m - go back to earlier pages and you'll find the predictions. Am not just saying anything And just as you have the right to be annoyed, I have the right to voice my opinions. And I didn't say that multiple times here on this thread. Maybe you also confused this with the Minions OS thread which I post to regularly with updates. I know he did but that was a lone much-higher-than-avg prediction. It wasn't equal to predicting 150 for minions rather closer to probably predicting 200m for it. And if he predicted that than he'll be the one saying it flopped. Us not calling it the same for it being close to our predictions does not mean we are biased. If there are more people calling minions a flop than its because it highly disappointed a lot more people too. That's not bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 China doing what they do best, ignoring Pixar. IO under MU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 China doing what they do best, ignoring Pixar. IO under MU. IO is likely finishing under UP... A major disappointment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Friday Est Goodbye Mr. Loser:57.6M/708M LiHK: 13M/15.16M Chronicles of the Ghostly Tribe: 11M/601M Saving Mr Wu: 6.6M/152M Inside out 3.1m/55.2m Minions 0.2M/432.5M 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Presales up 30%+ across the board today IO looking to bump up to 8-10m. 100m/$15m looking out of reach LiHK to 18-20m GBL holding nearly flat yesterday, should get over 80m w presales up 50%. Tomorrow will be interesting to see if it makes a new daily high. Definitely possible, its up to 35% of shows, doubled from last saturday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Sales Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) I am sad to know that Inside Out is not doing good numbers in China actually did not imagine that the Chinese market was so unpredictable, how can a people ridiculous movies like "Transformers" and snub fantastic animations as 'Inside Out'! Edited October 10, 2015 by Gabriel Sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 IO is likely finishing under UP... A major disappointment. Finding Dory is doomed in China. DOOMED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgchn40 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I am sad to know that Inside Out is not doing good numbers in China actually did not imagine that the Chinese market was so unpredictable, how can a people ridiculous movies like "Transformers" and snub fantastic animations as 'Inside Out'! Many Chinese watch Transformers cartoon as a kid. There is a Chinese subplot. IO has no fast cars and is too adult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 If Dory doesn't make any money in China...can it still beat Frozen WW? I think Japan is the key to this. Possibly yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I think Dory will do fine in China. Unlike IO's human-centered and more mature plot, Dory will have plenty of comedy and talking animal characters. It should definitely be better received among young children and families, even if they lack the brand awareness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernus Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Finding Dory is doomed in China. DOOMED! Why? Did IO fail to become a hit because it was Pixar's? I don't think so. It just wasn't suited to their taste.. Why then would that mean doom for completely unrelated, but for the same studio, future movies? If it suits their taste or more simply - if they just like it, it will become a hit, else not. It completely depends on that film itself and not on how other films perform except, of course, in sequel and universe-sharing cases. And so I'd take the occasion to ask a more relevant question - how much did Finding Nemo make in China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Nemo did $4m in 2003, behind HP2 (6.4) and over POTC (2.7) and The Two Towers (2.5). Quite good IMO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernus Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Nemo did $4m in 2003, behind HP2 (6.4) and over POTC (2.7) and The Two Towers (2.5). Quite good IMO Er...on mathematically adjusting it to the box-office wise market growth since 2003, that actually translates to 190.5m in 2016 ... Not that I am saying it would grow exactly that way (but then others have, so why not?) but that does increase hopes, I guess. Edited October 10, 2015 by Infernus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Saturday Est Goodbye Mr. Loser:84.4M/793M LiHK: 18.5M/1536M Chronicles of the Ghostly Tribe: 16.3M/628M Saving Mr Wu: 8.4M/160M Inside out 7.0m/62.3m Minions 0.4M/434M 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgchn40 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Saturday Est Goodbye Mr. Loser:84.4M/793M LiHK: 18.5M/1536M Chronicles of the Ghostly Tribe: 16.3M/628M Saving Mr Wu: 8.4M/160M Inside out 7.0m/62.3m Minions 0.4M/434M So GML gross is 4 times that of LiHK and more than the rest of the top 5 combined for two consecutive days... Incredible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) I don't like how people start bashing an entire country just because their preferred movies don't do so well over there. Not everyone is obliged to have the same taste in movies as you. Agree. What people also too often seem to forget: what is funny, what is considered 'correct' behaviour with a family, friends school, work.... differs from culture to culture, how to behave bewteen genders, human rights,... thousands of differences, that can influence how citiy people, countryside people.... preceive a story Also translation can be good or bad and so on That certain movies end so high on the top worldwide list is also because certain movies get a higher possibility to get shown in many countries and non US... local movies often only in one country or a region = IMHO a more in depth look into BO details per country is needed for a real impression of the tastes per resion/country/... Or what kind of movies ere shown shortly before, is the market even still 'hungry' for movie xy? And how watch the majority a movie, per computer or on the big screen? For what kind of movies a big screen is considerd 'still worth ir to go to'? Did another country even get to see the same version? Got scenes adeed or cut? and so on.... Edited October 10, 2015 by terrestrial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 GBL tracking to have its highest daily gross to 120m+. Will depend how strong the evening is. The rest of the top 5 is looking at 20-30% bumps. LiHK will be down 66% w/o/w for the second week in a row. IO 9-10m. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lihongkim Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 GBL tracking to have its highest daily gross to 120m+. Will depend how strong the evening is. The rest of the top 5 is looking at 20-30% bumps. LiHK will be down 66% w/o/w for the second week in a row. IO 9-10m. Really great GML!!! Will it pass LiHK? I wish (-: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Local movies are doing great. GML looks to be very close to LiHK ! Box office share of local films this year looks to settle in the 65%+ range, the best share ever. But Hollywood should be happy that they are being beaten by local movies in China. Bescause of so, maybe they can get more films imported, starting 2017. There have been a handful of quality homegrown films this year: Jian bing Man, Moneky King, Monster Hunt, Mr. Tumor, and now GML, all became big hits. LiHK had its problems but was definitely above average, even in Hollywood's comedy standards, (its box office dropped quck because GML stole its thunder). Even Macao 2 was a guilty pleaser, bad but very entertaining. On the smaller ones, The Dead End, 12 Citizens, and upcoming The Coffin in the Mountain (10.16), etc. all receiving stellar reviews. Saving Mr Wu didn't really become a hit but as a crime drama, it's hardly doing any bad. I think there is a clear trend here: more quality local films are coming out than ever, likely at an increasing rate. This is destined to happen, with the market getting bigger, better and more invests. Even in the animation field, besides TMK, Little Door Guardians (2016), Crazy Nian (2016) and Da Hai (2016) all look to be quality hits to come. The days of Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf are over. I think the market has reached this stage: after all these years, many Chinese audience are finally getting tired of those apocalyptic, save-the-world popcorn movies Hollywood produce, except those unique high concept univsersal movies like Avengers, Jurassic World and Fast Furious——but the number of such movies each year can be counted by one or two hands. Meanwhile, they are not ready for those Hollywood Oscar movies (these movies are hardly getting imported into China but you can guess the outturns even if they are imported). In fact, will they ever be ready for those dramas and biopics about the problems of minority persons from the First World ? their level of life, their mood, their interests are not there, yet. GML is about a troubled middle aged man who finds the right definiation of being successful. It's a low theme, relatively, but that's why it connects with general Chinese audience. Romances, Breakups (as Breakup Buddies, Breakup Buddies portrayed), troubled marriages ( Breakup Buddies, LiHK), stressful life and work portrayed in the form of comedies ... are what resonate better with them, not brilliant ideas of changing the world in biopics like The Imitation Game and Jobs (even though they all know about Steve Jobs), homoerotism, trangender or cross-cultural transitions. Let's be real, even in North America, such dramas can rarely compete with Avengers or Star Wars. At the same time, they kind of find the replacement: homegrown contents with increasing quality. Since the beginning of the year, there are always some local contents in the market that keep people intersted in, keep them talking about. This is what is happenning in my opinion. (The market regulation is always there. Why this year the share of foreign movies is falling so hard ?) Take me for example, for the past decade, I tried to avoid as many local films as I could. I knew they were terrible. I ended up watching about two thousand foreign movies (hardly anything for a movie buffy). But since last year, I have been open to check out more and more local movies. I didn't know when this exactly began but it is indeed happenning. And it is definitely not just me. My view stands that without SARFT's censorship which is simply killing the creations (China's film censorship is different to any other country, any time of any other country, but that is another topic), China's homegrown films would be much better, probably as good as Hollywood movies, in one decade. Of course, with the absence of the censorship (which would mean basically no regulation), Hollywood could also get full access to China's film market. No censorship, no regulation, just a grading system, homegrown contents would still beat imported contents. So it's safe to say that SARFT's censorship is both a good thing and a bad thing to both China and Hollywood. But overall, it is absolutly a bad thing for the market itself. Here is great article about this trend: hollywoods-grip-on-chinas-movie-audience-is-fading-fast Edited October 11, 2015 by firedeep 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...