Barnack Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tele Came Back said: Wow, that's nuts. With A Dog's Purpose beating the last Star Wars by 19 million and now Guardian 2 not reaching a movie like Logan, the China market is getting really interesting and not easy to predict (and not helping just what we would expect easy to export big spectacle not attached to the current US society) Edited May 11, 2017 by Barnack 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Olive said: Maoyan Friday predictions: Dangal - 44.5m Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - 18.4m Power Rangers - 16.5m King Arthur - 10.5m Dangal's run is crazy. I knew the Chinese would love the movie (strong emotional component to it after all) but overtaking Guardians after opening to 1/7th the OD within 5 days is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seduh Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 very disapointing numbers for GOTG2, There must be some explanaition but I really expect $150 (or more) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbingchan Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, keysersoze123 said: why is to so bad. BvS was expected. Guardians 2 douban score is quite good so why is its legs so bad? Most films multiple is worse than Last year.too many showtimes and more frontload GotG2 doesn't have strong buzz.Buzz is weaker than Logan.Logan has weaker competition 2nd weekend.Dangal eats up most family audiences this week.Family usually choose Marvel on weekend.Dangal is stronger than Dog on weekdays.So GotG may miss 650M. Edited May 12, 2017 by bangbingchan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 PR Maoyan rating - 5.4 I don't recall anything below 6.5 Oh my. Saturday drop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Barnack said: With A Dog's Purpose beating the last Star Wars by 19 million and now Guardian 2 not reaching a movie like Logan, the China market is getting really interesting and now easy to predict (and not helping just what we would expect easy to export big spectacle not attached to the current US society) Dog beats Star Wars 3.5 Dangal beats Star Lord 2 PK2 may beat SW8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momo Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 hour ago, POTUS said: PR Maoyan rating - 5.4 I don't recall anything below 6.5 Oh my. Saturday drop? And that why I have no respect for Chinese people. PR had more plot then TF and they gave the Smurfs an 8.6. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangsen Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, Momo said: And that why I have no respect for Chinese people. PR had more plot then TF and they gave the Smurfs an 8.6. Dude, after all your whining and shit in the presales forum, you react by putting down an entire country? Seems petty and playing into exactly what everyone thought of you from the beginning: you're nothing but a sensitive fanboy. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Momo said: And that why I have no respect for Chinese people. PR had more plot then TF and they gave the Smurfs an 8.6. Of all times you could complain about Chinese tastes you do it for PR... It's not as if PR got good reviews outside of China. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momo Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, jiangsen said: Dude, after all your whining and shit in the presales forum, you react by putting down an entire country? Seems petty and playing into exactly what everyone thought of you from the beginning: you're nothing but a sensitive fanboy. No offense,but my point stands. Chinese people gave Warcraft good reviews. It's not just them giving PR bad reviews. It the fact they love some of the worse movies. I mean does anyone think King Arthur is a 7.9 rated film? Look I'm not say PR a master pieces or good film,but it's was better then the Smurfs which they gave 8.6 rating too. PR flopped. I have say so countless threads. Still doesn't denied that China loves movies with the worse plots ever. Plus I read some of the reviews on Mayoyan for PR and Arthur. They claim they have no plot. Really,I guess TF was full of plot then. lmao Any ways,the next movie I'm rooting for is Masters of the Universe in 2019. Grew up on it in the 80s. @POTUS,Saturday drop would not surprise me. PR is very front loaded. Was in the US. Probably be in China as well. Edited May 12, 2017 by Momo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium George Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, Momo said: No offense,but my point stands. Chinese people gave Warcraft good reviews. It's not just them giving PR bad reviews. It the fact they love some of the worse movies. I mean does anyone think King Arthur is a 7.9 rated film? Look I'm not say PR a master pieces or good film,but it's was better then the Smurfs which they gave 8.6 rating too. PR flopped. I have say so countless threads. Still doesn't denied that China loves movies with the worse plots ever. Plus I read some of the reviews on Mayoyan for PR and Arthur. They claim they have no plot. Really,I guess TF was full of plot then. lmao Any ways,the next movie I'm rooting for is Masters of the Universe in 2019. Grew up on it in the 80s. @POTUS,Saturday drop would not surprise me. PR is very front loaded. Was in the US. Probably be in China as well. Dude, chinese didn't go through the plotless action movies of 80's, many animated movies, slasher and many other goneras which suck today. They are enjoying these action films. If american had something like maoyan, furious and tranformers will have high points, ofcourse lower than chinese 'cos they go through 100 years of cinema. Chinese didn't have star wars, terminator of the worlds. Also, these movies are easy to understand and pass through culture. And yeah, power rangers was crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMan Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Momo said: And that why I have no respect for Chinese people. PR had more plot then TF and they gave the Smurfs an 8.6. Well, your respect isn't worth much anyway if you were willing to lose it over a movie preference. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 ^^^^ after complaining people are attacking for saying PR is bombing, here momo started attacking the whole country for giving crappy ratings for that this POS deserves. I dont think douban rating for smurfs movie is 8.6. This year it got 6.5. Only TV season has a good rating and that is targeted towards certain demo which it satisfies. PR satisfies nothing. Transformers/warcraft had huge built in fan base and Bay at least has a style that has mass appeal. Warcraft crashed after 2 days and so did not have a good WOM. PR will crash after OD. I am thinking King Arthur will overtake it soon as well. Dangal will gain back all the showtimes and will make a play for biggest non hollywood import of all time. Even Guardians slide might slow down as its going to be number 2 today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 On guardians, some great points made. I liked the relative WOM that @TigerPaw said. Since the chinese audience dont see lots of movies they pick the best available choice at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbingchan Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 8 hours ago, POTUS said: Dog beats Star Wars 3.5 Dangal beats Star Lord 2 PK2 may beat SW8 And Dog slightly over BtaB Dom Top3 may all out Top 20 In China Big culture difference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Momo said: @POTUS,Saturday drop would not surprise me. PR is very front loaded. Was in the US. Probably be in China as well. I wouldn't call it a frontload. That means people rushed to see it on the first day which is not the case. Toxic WoM will kill sales tomorrow causing a decline. On a lighter note. POTC5 PS continue to point to a 200m+ OD and a second all time OW behind vin and the gang. GOTG2 looks like it'll get into the low 20s. Dangal trying for mid 40s. PR may fall short of 10m. Edited May 12, 2017 by POTUS 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 32 minutes ago, POTUS said: I wouldn't call it a frontload. That means people rushed to see it on the first day which is not the case. Toxic WoM will kill sales tomorrow causing a decline. On a lighter note. POTC5 PS continue to point to a 200m+ OD and a second all time OW behind vin and the gang. GOTG2 looks like it'll get into the low 20s. Dangal trying for mid 40s. PR may fall short of 10m. Can Pirates make 250m in USD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, John Marston said: Can Pirates make 250m in USD? Only FF7 &8 and TF4 have made more than $250m. It's a reach but it could happen with holiday help. The OW frontloaded has been getting bigger though, it may open to $125m but not have 2x OW legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Dangal will be ahead Dog's 10 day total of 372m on Sunday and with a larger 2nd weekend bump. Dog- 32/65/52m 372m 10 day Dan- 45/90/65m 385m Next weekend is light. Dog faced some competition the following week and dropped 50%, Dan could hold -40% or better. 465m by Thursday. For a 280m week A 50% hold for the following week 140m, brings it to 605m when P5 opens. 690m/$100m has a good shot. I thought Dog could do it but that -50% 3rd weekend drop stopped it. This has a better chance with a larger 2nd weekend. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 $100m will be crazy. That would be its biggest market. @Olive Is Dangal one of the overseas release and something bought out by local distributor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...