A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Barnack said: It got a lot of major re-release, 1942, 1947, 1954, 1961, 1971, 1974, 1989, 1998, 2013, 2014, some of those were massive success. yes but these rereleases can add up to 202 million adms? I doubt. I think BOM must have adjusted all these rereleases to 1939 ticket price which is unfair for films coming out later than GWTW. Edited August 18, 2017 by firedeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, firedeep said: yes but these rereleases can add up to 202 million adms? I doubt. I think BOM must have adjusted all these rereleases to 1939 ticket price which is unfair for films coming out later than GWTW. Average ticket price in 1939 was around 23 cents, Gone with the wind is at 198,676,459 million domestic alone if they would have done that they would be over 860 million tickets sold, they probably made some effort for GWTW considered how much higher is ticket price were versus the average of the, re-release factor and so on. Edited August 18, 2017 by Barnack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, firedeep said: yes but these rereleases can add up to 202 million adms? I doubt. I think BOM must have adjusted all these rereleases to 1939 ticket price which is unfair for films coming out later than GWTW. i don't think compared WW2 to a movie that 1st premiered back in 1939 is realistic, as so much things has changed, it's totally a different social structure and background. If really want to compare with, a movie in china that released in 1970 could outdone GWTW as yearly admission at china cinema stood at 29.3b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, firedeep said: yes but these rereleases can add up to 202 million adms? I doubt. I think BOM must have adjusted all these rereleases to 1939 ticket price which is unfair for films coming out later than GWTW. I do not think it is a so crazy figure. During 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s, the attendance to movies was way bigger than now, and not only in US, but in many countries. I do not have US numbers, but there are figures for United Kingdom, which is a similar market. Today, UK uses to sell about 150-170 million admissions per year. Between 1940 and 1956, UK was selling more than 1 billion admissions per year. The scenario will probably be the same in USA. https://www.cinemauk.org.uk/the-industry/facts-and-figures/uk-cinema-admissions-and-box-office/annual-admissions/ The first numbers we have for Spain say that in late 60s we were buying about 300-350 million admissions yearly (10 admissions per person and year) when now we suffer to reach 100 million (barely 2 admissions per person). In the same way, France was selling 300s-400s million admissions during those years (http://www.jpbox-office.com/hebdof.php), and Germany was able to sell 500s-800s million admissions during the 50s, after the WWII (http://www.insidekino.de/DBO.htm#JAHRES_&_ALL-TIME_CHARTS_) I do not know if that 202m figure is accurate, but I would not rule it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asyulus Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 When will DM3 end its run here? I also have no idea where will this end worldwide (imo), based on China numbers, but I could see this doing worldwide numbers between TDK and AUJ, iinm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 hours ago, setna said: Hey Gavin, could you please update to this fantastic daily tracking in dollars you use to do? i´m curious about WW2 in daily dollars... thanks!!! China Box Office Wolf Warrior 2 Day Date Rank Gross % - YD % - LW Gross-to-Date Day # Weekly Gross % - Change RMB / M USD / M USD / M USD / M Previews Jul. 27 1 ¥102.08 $15.15 - - $15.15 0 $147.94 - Fri Jul. 28 1 ¥214.71 $31.87 - - $47.03 1 Sat Jul. 29 1 ¥312.66 $46.42 -1.30% - $93.44 2 Sun Jul. 30 1 ¥367.09 $54.50 17.41% - $147.94 3 Mon Jul. 31 1 ¥273.03 $40.53 -25.62% - $188.47 4 $322.25 117.83% Tue Aug. 1 1 ¥292.68 $43.45 7.20% - $231.92 5 Wed Aug. 2 1 ¥279.18 $41.45 -4.61% - $273.36 6 Thu Aug. 3 1 ¥228.14 $33.87 -18.28% - $307.23 7 Fri Aug. 4 1 ¥265.99 $39.49 16.59% -16.04% $346.72 8 Sat Aug. 5 1 ¥405.43 $60.19 52.43% 29.67% $406.91 9 Sun Aug. 6 1 ¥426.27 $63.28 5.14% 16.12% $470.19 10 Mon Aug. 7 1 ¥243.03 $36.08 -42.99% -10.99% $506.27 11 $208.04 -35.44% Tue Aug. 8 1 ¥228.66 $33.94 -5.92% -21.87% $540.21 12 Wed Aug. 9 1 ¥196.30 $29.14 -14.15% -29.69% $569.35 13 Thu Aug. 10 1 ¥164.45 $24.41 -16.22% -27.92% $593.77 14 Fri Aug. 11 1 ¥150.59 $22.36 -8.43% -43.38% $616.12 15 Sat Aug. 12 1 ¥217.15 $32.24 44.20% -46.44% $648.36 16 Sun Aug. 13 1 ¥201.19 $29.87 -7.35% -52.80% $678.23 17 Mon Aug. 14 1 ¥99.52 $14.77 -50.54% -59.05% $693.00 18 Tue Aug. 15 1 ¥86.10 $12.78 -13.48% -62.34% $705.78 19 Wed Aug. 16 1 ¥74.97 $11.13 -12.93% -61.81% $716.91 20 Thu Aug. 17 1 ¥59.84 $8.88 -20.18% -63.61% $725.80 21 Fri Aug. 18 1 ¥62.20 $9.23 3.94% -58.70% $735.03 22 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Asyulus said: When will DM3 end its run here? I also have no idea where will this end worldwide (imo), based on China numbers, but I could see this doing worldwide numbers between TDK and AUJ, iinm. China Box Office Despicable Me 3 Day Date Rank Gross % - YD % - LW Gross-to-Date Day # Weekly Gross % - Change RMB / M USD / M USD / M USD / M Previews Jul. 1 9 ¥2.17 $0.32 - - $0.32 - $65.60 - Thu Jul. 6 6 ¥3.35 $0.49 - - $0.81 0 Fri Jul. 7 1 ¥137.81 $20.25 - - $21.07 1 Sat Jul. 8 1 ¥163.13 $23.98 15.56% - $45.04 2 Sun Jul. 9 1 ¥139.85 $20.56 -14.27% - $65.60 3 Mon Jul. 10 1 ¥59.60 $8.76 -57.38% - $74.36 4 $49.22 -24.97% Tue Jul. 11 1 ¥50.78 $7.46 -14.79% - $81.82 5 Wed Jul. 12 1 ¥43.37 $6.37 -14.60% - $88.20 6 Thu Jul. 13 2 ¥30.52 $4.49 -29.63% - $92.68 7 Fri Jul. 14 2 ¥33.39 $4.91 9.41% -76.35% $97.59 8 Sat Jul. 15 2 ¥59.27 $8.71 77.52% -63.67% $106.30 9 Sun Jul. 16 2 ¥57.94 $8.52 -2.25% -58.57% $114.82 10 Mon Jul. 17 2 ¥23.45 $3.45 -59.53% -60.66% $118.26 11 $21.26 -56.81% Tue Jul. 18 2 ¥21.04 $3.09 -10.28% -58.58% $121.36 12 Wed Jul. 19 3 ¥17.44 $2.56 -17.09% -59.79% $123.92 13 Thu Jul. 20 3 ¥15.67 $2.30 -10.14% -48.65% $126.22 14 Fri Jul. 21 4 ¥13.10 $1.92 -16.44% -60.78% $128.15 15 Sat Jul. 22 4 ¥26.18 $3.85 99.95% -55.83% $132.00 16 Sun Jul. 23 3 ¥27.77 $4.08 6.04% -52.08% $136.08 17 Mon Jul. 24 4 ¥11.74 $1.73 -57.73% -49.94% $137.80 18 $9.39 -55.85% Tue Jul. 25 3 ¥11.29 $1.66 -3.78% -46.32% $139.46 19 Wed Jul. 26 3 ¥10.50 $1.54 -6.99% -39.78% $141.01 20 Thu Jul. 27 4 ¥7.90 $1.16 -24.81% -49.61% $142.17 21 Fri Jul. 28 4 ¥4.00 $0.59 -49.36% -69.46% $142.75 22 Sat Jul. 29 3 ¥8.55 $1.26 113.71% -67.36% $144.01 23 Sun Jul. 30 3 ¥9.89 $1.45 15.67% -64.40% $145.46 24 Mon Jul. 31 3 ¥4.79 $0.70 -51.56% -59.21% $146.17 25 $3.99 -57.46% Tue Aug. 1 3 ¥4.65 $0.68 -2.90% -58.83% $146.85 26 Wed Aug. 2 3 ¥4.32 $0.63 -7.11% -58.89% $147.49 27 Thu Aug. 3 4 ¥2.60 $0.38 -39.72% -67.04% $147.87 28 Fri Aug. 4 7 ¥1.78 $0.26 -31.62% -55.49% $148.13 29 Sat Aug. 5 5 ¥4.00 $0.59 124.87% -53.17% $148.72 30 Sun Aug. 6 4 ¥5.02 $0.74 25.48% -49.19% $149.46 31 Mon Aug. 7 5 ¥1.70 $0.25 -66.23% -64.58% $149.71 32 $1.82 -54.52% Tue Aug. 8 5 ¥1.87 $0.27 10.17% -59.81% $149.98 33 Wed Aug. 9 5 ¥1.96 $0.29 4.66% -54.72% $150.27 34 Thu Aug. 10 5 ¥2.13 $0.31 9.11% -18.04% $150.58 35 Fri Aug. 11 10 ¥0.75 $0.11 -64.62% -57.59% $150.69 36 Sat Aug. 12 10 ¥1.79 $0.26 137.73% -55.17% $150.96 37 Sun Aug. 13 9 ¥2.15 $0.32 19.89% -57.16% $151.27 38 Mon Aug. 14 10 ¥1.07 $0.16 -50.37% -37.04% $151.43 39 Tue Aug. 15 10 ¥1.02 $0.15 -4.77% -45.57% $151.58 40 Wed Aug. 16 11 ¥0.99 $0.15 -2.64% -49.37% $151.72 41 Thu Aug. 17 11 ¥0.64 $0.09 -35.79% -70.21% $151.82 42 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 @Barnack @titanic1871 @peludo thanks. Now that makes sense. So theater attendance was really crazy high when TV was not around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 31 minutes ago, firedeep said: @Barnack @titanic1871 @peludo thanks. Now that makes sense. So theater attendance was really crazy high when TV was not around. With less than 1/3rd the current population U.S. admissions were almost 3 times higher. In 1930, weekly theater attendance was 80 million (with a population of 123m) - that's 4.1 billion a year. In 1930, more than 65% of the population went to the movies weekly. Now it's less than 10%. The Great Depression and WWII were times when people truly needed the escape of movies. Admissions started to decrease after that and plummeted with the advent of TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 11 hours ago, firedeep said: @Barnack @titanic1871 @peludo thanks. Now that makes sense. So theater attendance was really crazy high when TV was not around. back then, the movie theater admission= cinema+TV+ internet nowadays, there is no way to compare. movie that came after 1980, only rational enough to compare with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 SATbefore service feesWolf Warrior 2 - 85.6m / 4,703mParadox - 77m / 197.2m22 - 21m / 96mOne Hundred Thousand Bad Jokes II - 17.6m / 36.4mSeer Movie 6: Invincible Puni - 17m / 42.5mPeace Breaker - 9.06m / 34.5mGuilty of Mind - 6.76m / 232.5mEarth: One Amazing Day - 3.85m / 25.3mThe Adventurers - 3.39m / 205m after service feesWolf Warrior 2 - 90.6m / 5,042mParadox - 82m / 210m22 - 22.9m / 105mOne Hundred Thousand Bad Jokes II - 18.9m / 39.1mSeer Movie 6: Invincible Puni - 18.2m / 45.5mPeace Breaker - 9.5m / 36mGuilty of Mind - 7.1m / 246.7mEarth: One Amazing Day - 3.9m / 27mThe Adventurers - 3.65m / 223.2m 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, titanic2187 said: back then, the movie theater admission= cinema+TV+ internet nowadays, there is no way to compare. movie that came after 1980, only rational enough to compare with Why after 1980 and not after 2005, when downloads were generalized? We are talking just about theater attendance. Obviously there is not a fair comparison, whatever the year of each film. To talk about which film is more popular is, IMO, close to impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setna Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Gavin Feng said: SATbefore service feesWolf Warrior 2 - 85.6m / 4,703mParadox - 77m / 197.2m22 - 21m / 96mOne Hundred Thousand Bad Jokes II - 17.6m / 36.4mSeer Movie 6: Invincible Puni - 17m / 42.5mPeace Breaker - 9.06m / 34.5mGuilty of Mind - 6.76m / 232.5mEarth: One Amazing Day - 3.85m / 25.3mThe Adventurers - 3.39m / 205m after service feesWolf Warrior 2 - 90.6m / 5,042mParadox - 82m / 210m22 - 22.9m / 105mOne Hundred Thousand Bad Jokes II - 18.9m / 39.1mSeer Movie 6: Invincible Puni - 18.2m / 45.5mPeace Breaker - 9.5m / 36mGuilty of Mind - 7.1m / 246.7mEarth: One Amazing Day - 3.9m / 27mThe Adventurers - 3.65m / 223.2m WW2 is dropping more and more hard. Let´s see if finally can reach 800 million dollars.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setna Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 3 hours ago, peludo said: Why after 1980 and not after 2005, when downloads were generalized? We are talking just about theater attendance. Obviously there is not a fair comparison, whatever the year of each film. To talk about which film is more popular is, IMO, close to impossible. i think WW2 is already the all time tickets seller in any territory in its original run. Cause the top 5 in USA had several releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoilingHotCoffee Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Wolf Warriors currently sitting at $763.5M on Maoyan, has surpassed the total lifetime run of Avatar! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 20 hours ago, peludo said: Why after 1980 and not after 2005, when downloads were generalized? We are talking just about theater attendance. Obviously there is not a fair comparison, whatever the year of each film. To talk about which film is more popular is, IMO, close to impossible. 1984 is a year that things changed. Vcrs got cheap, below $200, and everywhere was getting wired for cable (hbo). Ticket sales declined and then flattened for years. Ticket sales imptoved in the 90s with an increasing population but then took another hit in the mid 2000s as you pointed out 70% of the population bought tvs in 1951 as they got cheaper and I Love Lucy was must see TV. They soon after started playing older movies. Then widescreen was created. So 51 84 and 04 were the big years of change 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 SUNbefore service feesWolf Warrior 2 - 82.5m / 4,785mParadox - 65.8m / 261.9m22 - 17.6m / 113.5mOne Hundred Thousand Bad Jokes II - 17.2m / 53.4mSeer Movie 6: Invincible Puni - 16m / 58.5mPeace Breaker - 8.12m / 42.4mGuilty of Mind - 7.5m / 240.2mEarth: One Amazing Day - 3.99m / 29mThe Adventurers - 3.16m / 208.2m after service feesWolf Warrior 2 - 88m / 5,130mParadox - 70.2m / 279.5m22 - 19.3m / 124.3mOne Hundred Thousand Bad Jokes II - 18.5m / 57.6mSeer Movie 6: Invincible Puni - 17.1m / 62.5mPeace Breaker - 8.7m / 44.6mGuilty of Mind - 7.85m / 254.7mEarth: One Amazing Day - 4.3m / 31.4mThe Adventurers - 3.4m / 226.6m 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 China Box Office Wolf Warrior 2 Day Date Rank Gross % - YD % - LW Gross-to-Date Day # Weekly Gross % - Change RMB / M USD / M USD / M USD / M Previews Jul. 27 1 ¥102.43 $15.21 - - $15.21 0 $147.99 - Fri Jul. 28 1 ¥214.71 $31.87 - - $47.08 1 Sat Jul. 29 1 ¥312.66 $46.42 -1.41% - $93.50 2 Sun Jul. 30 1 ¥367.09 $54.50 17.41% - $147.99 3 Mon Jul. 31 1 ¥273.03 $40.53 -25.62% - $188.52 4 $322.25 117.75% Tue Aug. 1 1 ¥292.68 $43.45 7.20% - $231.97 5 Wed Aug. 2 1 ¥279.18 $41.45 -4.61% - $273.42 6 Thu Aug. 3 1 ¥228.14 $33.87 -18.28% - $307.29 7 Fri Aug. 4 1 ¥265.99 $39.49 16.59% -16.13% $346.77 8 Sat Aug. 5 1 ¥405.43 $60.19 52.43% 29.67% $406.96 9 Sun Aug. 6 1 ¥426.27 $63.28 5.14% 16.12% $470.24 10 Mon Aug. 7 1 ¥243.03 $36.08 -42.99% -10.99% $506.32 11 $208.04 -35.44% Tue Aug. 8 1 ¥228.66 $33.94 -5.92% -21.87% $540.26 12 Wed Aug. 9 1 ¥196.30 $29.14 -14.15% -29.69% $569.41 13 Thu Aug. 10 1 ¥164.45 $24.41 -16.22% -27.92% $593.82 14 Fri Aug. 11 1 ¥150.59 $22.36 -8.43% -43.38% $616.17 15 Sat Aug. 12 1 ¥217.15 $32.24 44.20% -46.44% $648.41 16 Sun Aug. 13 1 ¥201.20 $29.87 -7.34% -52.80% $678.28 17 Mon Aug. 14 1 ¥99.53 $14.78 -50.53% -59.05% $693.06 18 $83.32 -59.95% Tue Aug. 15 1 ¥86.23 $12.80 -13.36% -62.29% $705.86 19 Wed Aug. 16 1 ¥75.06 $11.14 -12.96% -61.76% $717.00 20 Thu Aug. 17 2 ¥59.96 $8.90 -20.12% -63.54% $725.90 21 Fri Aug. 18 2 ¥62.35 $9.26 3.99% -58.59% $735.16 22 Sat Aug. 19 1 ¥90.14 $13.38 44.57% -58.49% $748.54 23 Sun Aug. 20 1 ¥88.00 $13.06 -2.38% -56.26% $761.60 24 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Here is a fun one think about. The blackout period for China ends this Friday with the releases of Cars 3, Baby Driver, and Valerian? Predicts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 MONbefore service feesWolf Warrior 2 - 41.7m / 4,832mParadox - 32.8m / 292.3mOne Hundred Thousand Bad Jokes II - 10.1m / 63.5m22 - 9.31m / 122.7mSeer Movie 6: Invincible Puni - 6.66m / 65.2mGuilty of Mind - 5.52m / 246.4mPeace Breaker - 4.42m / 46.7mThe Adventurers - 1.85m / 211.7mEarth: One Amazing Day - 1.46m / 30.4m after service feesWolf Warrior 2 - 44.5m / 5,175mParadox - 35.4m / 313.1mOne Hundred Thousand Bad Jokes II - 11m / 68.6m22 - 10.2m / 134.6mSeer Movie 6: Invincible Puni - 7.1m / 69.8mGuilty of Mind - 5.8m / 260.4mPeace Breaker - 4.75m / 49.3mThe Adventurers - 2m / 228.6mEarth: One Amazing Day - 1.58m / 32.9m 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...