UserHN Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, NCsoft said: I would actually rather they don't do that, if the film is good, all is fine, if not, I worry that it may dilute Cameron's brand in China, which might hurt Avatar 2. The last three times a new Cameron film is released in China, they all became the highest grossing film of all time (True Lies, Titanic, Avatar), that is just magic! I think Alita may be able to stand on its own though, but it's hard to be optimistic in this age when Hollywood "original" blockbusters don't succeed anymore. The latest news is that Disney and Fox might announce their deal anytime soon, presumably next week. If the deal is approved, then you can have Avatar 2's marketing as "From Disney and director James Cameron...". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 4 hours ago, NCsoft said: I would actually rather they don't do that, if the film is good, all is fine, if not, I worry that it may dilute Cameron's brand in China, which might hurt Avatar 2. The last three times a new Cameron film is released in China, they all became the highest grossing film of all time (True Lies, Titanic, Avatar), that is just magic! 1 I found it very interesting that Avatar is still the highest grossing film of all-time in Hong Kong and Taiwan. Also impressive was the fact that Avatar held that same record in China for over 4 years. Chinese audiences seemed to really enjoy it, and I hope that nostalgia carries over to the sequels. After seeing Wolf Warriors 2 break-out and gross $850 million, I'm really not sure what the ceiling for Avatar 2 is anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 10 hours ago, Olive Skywalker said: Tuesday est after service feesCoco - 29.7m/563m -5.8% / +36.6%Justice League - 5.9m / 667.2m - 6.3%Darkest Hour - 3.3M/20.4m +8.1%Fireworks(Japan) - 1.5M/74.5M -28.5%Viking(Russia) - 0.62m/13m -19.5% JL: with that kind of number and one more competition-free weekend, the movie definitely do more than USD$105M? and Coco is a nice hit for Pixar after all.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, zackzack said: JL: with that kind of number and one more competition-free weekend, the movie definitely do more than USD$105M? and Coco is a nice hit for Pixar after all.... I am sorry. Maybe I do not get some things. What's the difference between 101 or 103 or 105? Even more when everything depends on ER. You should be more excited about getting 700m Yuan, which is the real Chinese currency. And said this, and being myself a fan of DCU (specially BvS, the best SH film since TDKR), it does not matter if JL makes 660 WW or 670, or even 680. Even if there is a fucking holy Christmas miracle and it reaches 700. It is a huge disappointment. No matters how you look at it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 The two big releases next week will have previews on premium screens this weekend, JL will lose Many showtimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, zackzack said: JL: with that kind of number and one more competition-free weekend, the movie definitely do more than USD$105M? and Coco is a nice hit for Pixar after all.... Its holding well but several releases are going to take 60-70% of shows. 4th weekend movies get wacked unless they are huge holdovers like zoo, dangal or coco. Last friday Coco had 20%, JL had 8%. So far, this friday has Coco at 15%, JL at 1.2%. That'll adjust up to 20%+ and just 2%. Im looking for Coco to hold flat WoW. JL will probably drop 75%+ and make just ¥10m. Coco heading to 28m down 6% again Edited December 6, 2017 by POTUS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserHN Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 40 minutes ago, POTUS said: Its holding well but several releases are going to take 60-70% of shows. 4th weekend movies get wacked unless they are huge holdovers like zoo, dangal or coco. Last friday Coco had 20%, JL had 8%. So far, this friday has Coco at 15%, JL at 1.2%. That'll adjust up to 20%+ and just 2%. Im looking for Coco to hold flat WoW. JL will probably drop 75%+ and make just ¥10m. Coco heading to 28m down 6% again Is Coco's performance still in line with your expectations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lielixthe Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 11 hours ago, UserHN said: Please, please tell me that Kris Wu is NOT one of those shortlisted. It would be a disaster if he was chosen. I'd be suprised if he wasn't -- He ticks off a lot of the same boxes that Liu Yifei did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserHN Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, lielixthe said: I'd be suprised if he wasn't -- He ticks off a lot of the same boxes that Liu Yifei did. Except that Liu Yifei is so good looking. Can't say the same about Kris Wu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Wednesday est after service fees Coco - 28m/591.3m -6.1% Justice League - 5.75m / 673m - 2.5% Darkest Hour - 3.3M/ 23.7m +1% Fireworks(Japan) - 1.22M/75.7M -20% Viking(Russia) - 0.5m/13.5m -19.7% 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 All-Time Animated Movies Rank Movie Ttitle Gross(¥) Gross($) Date #1 Zootopia ¥1,530.3 $234.0 2016/3/4 #2 Despicable Me 3 ¥1,037.8 $152.6 2017/7/7 #3 Kung Fu Panda 3 ¥1,002.0 $154.4 2016/1/29 #4 The Monkey King: Hero is Back ¥956.4 $154.0 2015/7/10 #5 Kung Fu Panda 2 ¥612.1 $94.2 2011/5/28 #6 Coco ¥591.3 $87.2 2017/11/24 #7 Your Name ¥576.8 $86.2 2016/12/2 #8 Big Fish & Begonia ¥565.1 $91.0 2016/7/8 #9 Doraemon: Stand by Me ¥530.3 $84.7 2015/5/28 10 Big Hero 6 ¥526.7 $76.7 2015/2/28 10 Bonnie Bears 4 ¥522.6 $79.8 2017/1/28 11 Angry Birds ¥513.8 $84.0 2016/5/20 12 Ice Age 4 ¥449.0 $67.6 2012/7/27 13 Ice Age 5 ¥447.2 $70.4 2016/8/23 14 Minions ¥435.7 $70.3 2015/9/13 15 How to Train Your Dragon 2 ¥406.0 $65.4 2014/8/14 Coco will enter top 5 tomorrow, other top 5 will be one WDAS, one Illumination, one DWA and one local. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2nd Wedneasday(daily/weely) Coco -6.1%/+16.8% Zootopia -12.1%/-24.7% 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meriodejaneiro Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 37 minutes ago, Olive Skywalker said: All-Time Animated Movies Rank Movie Ttitle Gross(¥) Gross($) Date #1 Zootopia ¥1,530.3 $234.0 2016/3/4 #2 Despicable Me 3 ¥1,037.8 $152.6 2017/7/7 #3 Kung Fu Panda 3 ¥1,002.0 $154.4 2016/1/29 #4 The Monkey King: Hero is Back ¥956.4 $154.0 2015/7/10 #5 Kung Fu Panda 2 ¥612.1 $94.2 2011/5/28 #6 Coco ¥591.3 $87.2 2017/11/24 #7 Your Name ¥576.8 $86.2 2016/12/2 #8 Big Fish & Begonia ¥565.1 $91.0 2016/7/8 #9 Doraemon: Stand by Me ¥530.3 $84.7 2015/5/28 10 Big Hero 6 ¥526.7 $76.7 2015/2/28 10 Bonnie Bears 4 ¥522.6 $79.8 2017/1/28 11 Angry Birds ¥513.8 $84.0 2016/5/20 12 Ice Age 4 ¥449.0 $67.6 2012/7/27 13 Ice Age 5 ¥447.2 $70.4 2016/8/23 14 Minions ¥435.7 $70.3 2015/9/13 15 How to Train Your Dragon 2 ¥406.0 $65.4 2014/8/14 Coco will enter top 5 tomorrow, other top 5 will be one WDAS, one Illumination, one DWA and one local. Where do you think Coco might end up in the all-time animated movies ranking? competing with DM3 and KFP3 on the edge of 1000¥ for # 2-3-4? clearly surpassing them for a solid #2? any remote chance of attempting to #1 Zootopia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, meriodejaneiro said: Where do you think Coco might end up in the all-time animated movies ranking? competing with DM3 and KFP3 on the edge of 1000¥ for # 2-3-4? clearly surpassing them for a solid #2? any remote chance of attempting to #1 Zootopia? #2 easily 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Amazing that just 10 days ago, $100M was locked as a target for final gross, now it’s clear that Coco will not only pass that mark with much ease, but will gross much more. China BO is exciting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 @fmpro I think it was you made that graph of Coco vs. Zoo vs. Dangal? Any chance for an update with actuals from Friday-Wednesday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Top 20 of 2017 as of Dec.05 Rank Movie Ttitle Gross(¥) Gross($) Admissions Date #1 Wolf Warriors 2 ¥5,679.3 $842.6 158.02 2017/7/27 #2 The Fate of the Furious 8 ¥2,671.0 $388.2 72.88 2017/4/14 #3 Never Say Die ¥2,200.3 $330.9 65.84 2017/9/30 #4 Kung Fu Yoga ¥1,752.6 $254.7 45.92 2017/1/28 #5 Journey to the West: The Demons Strike Back ¥1,655.9 $240.7 42.30 2017/1/28 #6 Transformers: The Last Knight ¥1,551.2 $227.1 41.99 2017/6/23 #7 Dangal ¥1,299.1 $188.3 43.20 2017/5/5 #8 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales ¥1,179.9 $172.2 32.95 2017/5/26 #9 Kong: Skull Island ¥1,160.5 $168.7 33.03 2017/3/24 10 xXx: Return of Cage ¥1,127.5 $163.9 31.14 2017/2/10 11 Resident Evil: The Final Chapter ¥1,111.9 $162.1 32.06 2017/2/24 12 Duckweed ¥1,048.5 $152.4 28.87 2017/1/28 13 Despicable Me 3 ¥1,037.8 $152.6 30.46 2017/7/7 14 Spider-man: homecoming ¥774.1 $118.2 22.01 2017/9/8 15 Buddies in India ¥757.9 $110.2 21.31 2017/1/28 16 Thor:Ragonarok ¥743.3 $111.9 20.95 2017/11/3 17 War for the Planet of the Apes ¥739.8 $112.9 21.15 2017/9/15 18 Logan ¥731.7 $106.4 22.60 2017/3/3 19 Wu Kong ¥696.5 $102.9 19.39 2017/7/13 20 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 ¥686.1 $99.4 18.41 2017/5/5 Question: can Coco make top 10 of 2017, no other movies will pass 1B this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 45 minutes ago, feasby007 said: @fmpro I think it was you made that graph of Coco vs. Zoo vs. Dangal? Any chance for an update with actuals from Friday-Wednesday? Was’ent me. Its @POTUS who`s the chart guy here in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, fmpro said: Was’ent me. Its @POTUS who`s the chart guy here in this thread I found it, it was @firedeep on friday! I knew it wasn't potus, he's great at charts and tables, but this was a one of a kind Graph! Silly me got my F's mixed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, UserHN said: Is Coco's performance still in line with your expectations? ahead. 1 hour ago, meriodejaneiro said: Where do you think Coco might end up in the all-time animated movies ranking? competing with DM3 and KFP3 on the edge of 1000¥ for # 2-3-4? clearly surpassing them for a solid #2? any remote chance of attempting to #1 Zootopia? 2 definitely. likely to reach 1.2b/$180m 1 hour ago, feasby007 said: @fmpro I think it was you made that graph of Coco vs. Zoo vs. Dangal? Any chance for an update with actuals from Friday-Wednesday? here is old chart and updated On 12/3/2017 at 1:49 PM, POTUS said: Its closely following Dangals % holds. Weekdays are weaker but weekends are stronger. Today should land at 113. Then inputted a reasonable projection. It could hold stronger. Zoo Dan Coco Day Yn % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Yn Daily % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Yn Daily % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Thur Fri 22 22 3 16 16 2 13 13 2 Sat 60 169.6% 82.4 12 31 98.7% 47 7 47 270.1% 60 9 Sun 72 19.9% 154.8 23 36 16.1% 83 13 58 23.4% 118 18 Mon 36 -49.9% 191.1 29 20 -44.4% 103 16 20 -65.5% 138 21 Tues 69 89.5% 259.9 39 23 15.0% 126 19 21 5.0% 159 24 Wed 45 -35.3% 304.4 46 27 17.4% 153 23 24 14.3% 183 28 Thur 43 -3.1% 347.5 53 27 0.0% 180 27 25 4.2% 208 31 Fri 71 65.7% 419 63 42 55.6% 169.2% 222 34 50 100.0% 293.7% 258 39 Sat 167 133.9% 586 89 95 126.2% 206.5% 317 48 125 150.0% 166.0% 383 58 Sun 150 -10.2% 107.2% 736 112 93 -2.1% 158.3% 410 62 113 -9.6% 94.8% 496 75 Mon 43 -71.3% 18.5% 779 118 34 -64.2% 70.0% 444 67 28 -75.2% 40.0% 524 79 Tue 38 -11.6% -44.8% 817 124 32 -5.9% 39.1% 476 72 26 -7.1% 23.8% 550 83 Wed 34 -10.5% -23.6% 851 129 29 -9.4% 7.4% 505 76 24 -7.7% 0.0% 574 87 Thu 29 -14.7% -32.7% 880 133 26 -10.3% -3.7% 531 80 22 -8.3% -12.0% 596 90 Fri 47 62.1% -34.2% 927 140 42 61.5% 0.0% 573 87 44 100.0% -12.0% 640 97 Sat 109 131.9% -34.7% 1036 157 111 164.3% 16.8% 684 104 110 150.0% -12.0% 750 114 Sun 86 -21.1% -42.7% 1122 170 81 -27.03% -12.9% 765 116 90 -18.18% -20.4% 840 127 Mon 18 -79.1% -58.1% 1140 173 23 -71.6% -32.4% 788 119 22 -75.6% -21.4% 862 131 Tue 17 -5.6% -55.3% 1157 175 21 -8.7% -34.4% 809 123 20 -9.1% -23.1% 882 134 Wed 15 -11.8% -55.9% 1172 178 20 -4.8% -31.0% 829 126 18 -10.0% -25.0% 900 136 Thu 14 -6.7% -51.7% 1186 180 18 -10.0% -30.8% 847 128 16.3 -9.4% -25.9% 916 139 Fri 19.0 35.7% -59.6% 1205 183 13 -27.8% -69.0% 860 130 16 -1.8% -63.6% 932 141 Sat 50.0 163.2% -54.1% 1255 190 19 46.2% -82.9% 879 133 40 150.0% -63.6% 972 147 Sun 43.0 -14.0% -50.0% 1298 197 44 131.58% -45.7% 923 140 34 -15.00% -62.2% 1006 152 Mon 9.8 -77.2% -45.6% 1308 198 54 22.7% 134.8% 977 148 8.5 -75.0% -61.4% 1015 154 Tue 9.2 -6.1% -45.9% 1317 200 43 -20.4% 104.8% 1020 154 8 -5.9% -60.0% 1023 155 Wed 9.1 -1.1% -39.3% 1326 201 13 -69.8% -35.0% 1033 156 7.2 -10.0% -60.0% 1030 156 Thu 9.1 0.0% -35.0% 1335 202 32 146.2% 77.8% 1065 161 6.6 -8.3% -59.5% 1036 157 Fri 9 3.3% -50.5% 1345 204 13 -59.4% 0.0% 1078 163 9 36.4% -43.8% 1045 158 Sat 32 241.5% -35.8% 1377 209 27 107.7% 42.1% 1105 167 23 155.6% -42.5% 1068 162 Sun 42 30.8% -2.3% 1419 215 23 -14.8% -47.7% 1128 171 19 -17.4% -44.1% 1087 165 Mon 30 -28.6% 206.1% 1449 219 7.7 -66.5% -85.7% 1135 172 Tue 4.5 -85.0% -51.1% 1453 220 8.3 7.8% -80.7% 1144 173 1530 232 1299 197 Zoo Dan Coco Day Yn % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Yn Daily % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Yn Daily % +/- Last Week Tot $Tot Thur Fri 22 22 3 16 16 2 13 13 2 Sat 60 169.6% 82 12 31 98.7% 47 7 47 270.1% 60 9 Sun 72 19.9% 155 23 36 16.1% 83 13 58 23.4% 118 18 Mon 36 -49.9% 191 29 20 -44.4% 103 16 20 -65.5% 138 21 Tues 69 89.5% 260 39 23 15.0% 126 19 21 5.0% 159 24 Wed 45 -35.3% 304 46 27 17.4% 153 23 24 14.3% 183 28 Thur 43 -3.1% 348 53 27 0.0% 180 27 25 4.2% 208 31 Fri 71 65.7% 419 63 42 55.6% 169.2% 222 34 50 100.0% 293.7% 258 39 Sat 167 133.9% 586 89 95 126.2% 206.5% 317 48 125 150.0% 166.0% 383 58 Sun 150 -10.2% 107.2% 736 112 93 -2.1% 158.3% 410 62 113 -9.6% 94.8% 496 75 Mon 43 -71.3% 18.5% 779 118 34 -64.2% 70.0% 444 67 31.6 -72.0% 58.0% 527 80 Tue 38 -11.6% -44.8% 817 124 32 -5.9% 39.1% 476 72 29.8 -5.7% 41.9% 557 84 Wed 34 -10.5% -23.6% 851 129 29 -9.4% 7.4% 505 76 28 -6.0% 16.7% 585 89 Thu 29 -14.7% -32.7% 880 133 26 -10.3% -3.7% 531 80 26 -7.1% 4.0% 611 93 Fri 47 62.1% -34.2% 927 140 42 61.5% 0.0% 573 87 48 84.6% -4.0% 659 100 Sat 109 131.9% -34.7% 1036 157 111 164.3% 16.8% 684 104 120 150.0% -4.0% 779 118 Sun 86 -21.1% -42.7% 1122 170 81 -27.03% -12.9% 765 116 105 -12.50% -7.1% 884 134 Mon 18 -79.1% -58.1% 1140 173 23 -71.6% -32.4% 788 119 26 -75.2% -17.7% 910 138 Tue 17 -5.6% -55.3% 1157 175 21 -8.7% -34.4% 809 123 24 -7.7% -19.5% 934 142 Wed 15 -11.8% -55.9% 1172 178 20 -4.8% -31.0% 829 126 22 -8.3% -21.4% 956 145 Thu 14 -6.7% -51.7% 1186 180 18 -10.0% -30.8% 847 128 20 -9.1% -23.1% 976 148 Fri 19.0 35.7% -59.6% 1205 183 13 -27.8% -69.0% 860 130 18 -10.0% -62.5% 994 151 Sat 50.0 163.2% -54.1% 1255 190 19 46.2% -82.9% 879 133 45 150.0% -62.5% 1039 157 Sun 43.0 -14.0% -50.0% 1298 197 44 131.58% -45.7% 923 140 35 -22.22% -66.7% 1074 163 Mon 9.8 -77.2% -45.6% 1308 198 54 22.7% 134.8% 977 148 9 -74.3% -65.4% 1083 164 Tue 9.2 -6.1% -45.9% 1317 200 43 -20.4% 104.8% 1020 154 8 -11.1% -66.7% 1091 165 Wed 9.1 -1.1% -39.3% 1326 201 13 -69.8% -35.0% 1033 156 7.2 -10.0% -67.3% 1098 166 Thu 9.1 0.0% -35.0% 1335 202 32 146.2% 77.8% 1065 161 6.6 -8.3% -67.0% 1105 167 Fri 9 3.3% -50.5% 1345 204 13 -59.4% 0.0% 1078 163 9 36.4% -50.0% 1114 169 Sat 32 241.5% -35.8% 1377 209 27 107.7% 42.1% 1105 167 23 155.6% -48.9% 1137 172 Sun 42 30.8% -2.3% 1419 215 23 -14.8% -47.7% 1128 171 19 -17.4% -45.7% 1156 175 Mon 30 -28.6% 206.1% 1449 219 7.7 -66.5% -85.7% 1135 172 Tue 4.5 -85.0% -51.1% 1453 220 8.3 7.8% -80.7% 1144 173 1530 232 1299 197 Edited December 6, 2017 by POTUS 4 Quote Link to comment Share on 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