China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

[Joyous Legion]

1 hour ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

Aquaman China box office till 9th January 2019, using daily exchange rate is  $275,961,798. Click here for daily breakdown.

 

I really like how things are broken down here. Is AM&TW deliberately not fully filled out yet? The data stops over a week before it left theaters.

[fmpro]

36 minutes ago, POTUS said:

you missed a 1 in the 10m column

its $285,961,798 which is close to my total on my chart

AQ shows are going to drop from 7.6% to 1.7% tomorrow

it might get to 1990m/ $288.8m if it bounces back saturday

XR is at 6.78 now. 1990m is $293m at that rate which Mojo and others will probably use on Monday

 

Big shot has a 9.2, nice call by @firedeep, opening small but should bump well this weekend.

BBee PS will increase for tomorrow and The PSm should also increase. Its shows will drop from 43% to 30%. Not bad.

30%+ bump looking feasible.  2.5x OW, 1B Total still possible

 

Agree. 33 mill today and 45ish tomorrow. Great 2nd weekend drop and 1B still possible

[a2k]

1 hour ago, fmpro said:

Agree. 33 mill today and 45ish tomorrow. Great 2nd weekend drop and 1B still possible

Why did Paramount get $60m minimum guarantee? Don't imports need to make $240 odd to get $60m, 0.25*240, usually?

[charlie Jatinder]

2 hours ago, Thanos Legion said:

I really like how things are broken down here. Is AM&TW deliberately not fully filled out yet? The data stops over a week before it left theaters.

I got lazy.

Edit. Completed. Its  $122,055,868

 

Edited January 10, 2019 by Charlie Jatinder

[charlie Jatinder]

2 hours ago, POTUS said:

you missed a 1 in the 10m column

its $285,961,798 which is close to my total on my chart

AQ shows are going to drop from 7.6% to 1.7% tomorrow

it might get to 1990m/ $288.8m if it bounces back saturday

XR is at 6.78 now. 1990m is $293m at that rate which Mojo and others will probably use on Monday

 

Big shot has a 9.2, nice call by @firedeep, opening small but should bump well this weekend.

BBee PS will increase for tomorrow and The PSm should also increase. Its shows will drop from 43% to 30%. Not bad.

30%+ bump looking feasible.  2.5x OW, 1B Total still possible

 

Thanks for making me look into. Actually, I had put total formula for 4 weeks release period, forget to edit it as it had extension.

[Gavin Feng]

1 hour ago, a2k said:

Why did Paramount get $60m minimum guarantee? Don't imports need to make $240 odd to get $60m, 0.25*240, usually?

Tencent: I'm rich.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

1 hour ago, a2k said:

Why did Paramount get $60m minimum guarantee? Don't imports need to make $240 odd to get $60m, 0.25*240, usually?

because the Tencent dudes are dumb

 

I cant confirm the $240m figure but Tencent will lose money for sure.

[fmpro]

3 hours ago, firedeep said:

because the Tencent dudes are dumb

 

I cant confirm the $240m figure but Tencent will lose money for sure.

Dont they get more than 25% from a buyout like this?

[A Marvel Fanboy]

3 minutes ago, fmpro said:

Dont they get more than 25% from a buyout like this?

It's 25%, quote release or buyout release.

[charlie Jatinder]

20 hours ago, a2k said:

Why did Paramount get $60m minimum guarantee? Don't imports need to make $240 odd to get $60m, 0.25*240, usually?

They won't get 25% of ticket booking cost, so it would be $258mn approx to break even. Then there will be some sort of GST/VAT as well, if 25% is on pure Net then the number rises ever higher to $270mn, not sure about latter tho.

Calculation:

$60mn/25% = $240mn Net

$240mn + 5% GST/VAT = $252mn Gross

$252mn + 7% Average Ticketing Cost: $270mn Reported Gross.

 

PS. Its idiotic to add Ticket Booking Charges to Gross. What next? Parking Charges, 🍿?

 

Edited January 11, 2019 by Charlie Jatinder

[A Marvel Fanboy]

9 hours ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

They won't get 25% of ticket booking cost, so it would be $2mn approx to break even. Then there will be some sort of GST/VAT as well, if 25% is on pure Net then the number rises ever higher to $270mn, not sure about latter tho.

Calculation:

$60mn/25% = $240mn Net

$240mn + 5% GST/VAT = $252mn Gross

$252mn + 7% Average Ticketing Cost: $270mn Reported Gross.

 

PS. Its idiotic to add Ticket Booking Charges to Gross. What next? Parking Charges, 🍿?

 

popcorns and Coke sounds good 

[Barnack]

13 hours ago, firedeep said:

It's 25%, quote release or buyout release.

Hum, does that mean that the after market is getting bigger in China than before, because otherwise 60M seem way too much for a Bumblebee movie, even if it does 270m, after your releasing cost (small but still), there is not much left and a big risk.

[fmpro]

22 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Hum, does that mean that the after market is getting bigger in China than before, because otherwise 60M seem way too much for a Bumblebee movie, even if it does 270m, after your releasing cost (small but still), there is not much left and a big risk.

I think @Olive mentioned that the deal included more than only the theater BO

[Gavin Feng]

box office minimum-guarantee deal:

Paramont will get $44M box office sharing whether Bumblebee would reach $175M / ¥1,200M(not including service fee) or not. If Bumblebee make higher, Paramount can also get little more from it.

Tencent Pictures will pay Paramount another $15M for having the exclusive streaming media copyright. This price is far higher than previous record held by Wolf Worrior 2 with around $10M. Tencent Pictures can sell the copyright to other buyers with higher numbers like $5M for each four companies($20M combine).

 

Netflix & Tencent are greatest philanthropists for film industry.

[Barnack]

6 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

Tencent Pictures will pay Paramount another $15M for having the exclusive streaming media copyright. This price is far higher than previous record held by Wolf Worrior 2 with around $10M.

Ok thanks (those number would be extremelly low in the US)

[Barnack]

7 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

Paramont will get $44M box office sharing whether Bumblebee would reach $175M / ¥1,200M(not including service fee) or not.

This a really really good deal for paramount, say a movie make around 23% net profit from the box office post releasing cost, the movie would need to make significantly more than 191M USD for the buyer to turn a profit, around 210M USD to make a 10% ROI.

[juni78ukr]

I remember a year ago famous russian director and producer said  me that you won't get your money from China. Grosses there are mostly for bragging rights only.  Don't know how much of that is really true or not, 

[a2k]

Using 23% of $287-288 AQM will fetch WB $66 from China.

$335 dom will get WB $184

$512.5 OS-China will get them $205.

 

That's 66+184+205 = $455 global theatrical returns using $1135 ww (287.5 + 335 + 512.5). Simply amazing performance all around.

[efialtes76]

Very good ratings for two openers but presales are muted. 

[A Marvel Fanboy]

In short, Tencent vastly overpaid for Bumblebee. They must have hoped the movie would make 1.5B.