charlie Jatinder Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 WTF they were thinking? The only market in world that may give them some money and they are having racist jokes on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) Quote Date Title 3-Day Opening Lifetime Country Studio & Distributor 2020/12/18 Wonder Woman 1984 $60-70 million $125-135 million US Warner Bros. & IQiYi Pictures 2020/12/18 The Rescue $35-45 million $70-80 million China Bona Film Group 2020/12/24 I Remember $25-35 million* $45-55 million China Gravity Pictures & CMC Inc. 2020/12/24 Shock Wave 2 $65-85 million* $130-150 million China Universe Entertainment & Ali Pictures 2020/12/25 Yin-Yang Master I $30-35 million $48-60 million China Shanghai Film Group & HeHe Pictures 2020/12/25 Soul $3-5 million $12-15 million US Walt Disney Studios 2020/12/31 A Little Red Flower $90-110 million* $225-245 million China HG Entertainment & Lian Ray Pictures 2020/12/31 Warm Hug $45-55 million* $80-90 million China Huayi Brothers & Ali Pictures 2021/1/8 Fox Hunt $6-9 million $15-20 million China Shanghai Film Group & Maoyan Movie 2021/1/15 The Soul $10-15 million $35-45 million China Zhong He Qian Cheng & Ali Pictures * 4-day opening Wonder Woman 1984 - I revise down my expectation again, but it's still much higher than what pre-sale has suggested. Yes, numbers don't lie. And I insist on a basic line I think it shouldn't be crossed. No matter right or wrong, I'm going to reflect what really happed on recent Hollywood titles. So would those studios. A Little Red Flower - Far ahead of what I expected, according to pre-sale performance. It has a shot of making $25M from 6 hours previews on Dec.31. The midnights/previews records are held by Avengers: Endgame's $28.3M(mignights) and Wolf Warrior sequel's $15.2M(8pm previews). Edited December 12, 2020 by Gavin Feng 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I feel it hard to see if WW84 cross $70mn in full run. 🙄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I don't know too much about it, but does Detective Chinatown 3 have a chance of exceeding 100 million admissions in China ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, LPLC said: I don't know too much about it, but does Detective Chinatown 3 have a chance of exceeding 100 million admissions in China ? According InsideKino, Detective Chinatown 2 sold 87 million admissions. https://www.insidekino.de/BO/Titanic.htm It was not too far of that number. And that considering that it was not the biggest film of the CNY in 2018. Operation Red Sea was released the same day and sold 92 million (always according the same source, InsideKino). If the anticipation is so high I guess it has that chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 The WW84 conversation should move over to here now, presales portion of the run is over. Rescue has a 9.2 on Maoyan right now, but not sure if that’s real or faked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, WandaLegion said: The WW84 conversation should move over to here now, presales portion of the run is over. Rescue has a 9.2 on Maoyan right now, but not sure if that’s real or faked. Maoyan Movie, the co-pro of The Rescue, controlled the audience score by its own ticket platform. Not only the referee but also athlete 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 many who saw midnights felt they were deceived -- not a real superhero movie, more like some kind of rom-comedy. too long with 150 mins endless talking instead of fighting. director/writers keep telling audience how to love, so narcissistic just like TENET, it's not a blockbuster people expected. They want to experience something epic, but neither of them have that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) WW84 8.1 on Taopiaopiao. At 10:00 AM, just added ¥2mn to pre-sales at midnight as compared to ¥4.2mn of TENET. Let's see how walk-ins are in the day but I have really bad feeling about it. Edited December 18, 2020 by charlie Jatinder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liiviig 1998 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Don't think this movie was going to be that well received based on its tone and nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: many who saw midnights felt they were deceived -- not a real superhero movie, more like some kind of rom-comedy. too long with 150 mins endless talking instead of fighting. director/writers keep telling audience how to love, so narcissistic just like TENET, it's not a blockbuster people expected. They want to experience something epic, but neither of them have that. Black Widow is on her way to give the people what they want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cax16 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Thanks for all the info guys, I guess this isn’t making much in China lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 12/14/2020 at 11:46 AM, charlie Jatinder said: The absolute low is perhaps $20mn weekend right. May be $35mn full run. Absolute low transforms into baseline expectation now. If it was like 8.9 but didn’t do much because of lack of marketing and piracy in a week that would be a lot better for WW3’s prospects here. As is, WW3 will probably still need to work for the Billie mark since it might not match the first in China. Or maybe it comes out in 2024, gets 9.3, and makes like $300 here — don’t want to get too far ahead of myself for such a far future event. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Some think piracy affected its pre-sale. Maybe it did. But how to explain Mulan, a movie that debuted a week after piracy leaked, could even do higher than WE84 in final pre-sale. And Mulan only had three days selling ticket in advance. Marketing and distribution fucked up. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menor the Destroyer Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) More "light comedy" superhero films seem to have trouble in China. Somehow Ant-Man avoids that though. Edited December 18, 2020 by Menor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Menor said: More "light comedy" superhero films seem to have trouble in China. Somehow Ant-Man avoids that though. Many comedy-type Hollywood blockbusters are too American style, including Spider-Man: Homecoming. But those jokes in Ant-Man could even make local audience laugh. I really appreciate that business talent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cax16 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Gavin Feng said: many who saw midnights felt they were deceived -- not a real superhero movie, more like some kind of rom-comedy. too long with 150 mins endless talking instead of fighting. director/writers keep telling audience how to love, so narcissistic just like TENET, it's not a blockbuster people expected. They want to experience something epic, but neither of them have that. These comments from the audience are definitely disappointing after you mentioned critics seemed to like the movie but in the end it’s the audience who decides how much a movie will make. I still stand by the fact that marketing for this movie has been awful everywhere other then the US where it’s premiering on HBOmax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 57 minutes ago, WandaLegion said: Absolute low transforms into baseline expectation now. If it was like 8.9 but didn’t do much because of lack of marketing and piracy in a week that would be a lot better for WW3’s prospects here. As is, WW3 will probably still need to work for the Billie mark since it might not match the first in China. Or maybe it comes out in 2024, gets 9.3, and makes like $300 here — don’t want to get too far ahead of myself for such a far future event. I think WW3 won't come in next 2-3 years atleast. By then expect streaming to take over. Don't think it will do billie. Billie will be reserved for Asia strong content I guess, given they are given some window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: Some think piracy affected its pre-sale. Maybe it did. But how to explain Mulan, a movie that debuted a week after piracy leaked, could even do higher than WE84 in final pre-sale. And Mulan only had three days selling ticket in advance. Marketing and distribution fucked up. I said in WW84 INT thread that even Middle East pre-sales are low, where piracy shouldn't have that big impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) At 14:00 CST, has grossed $3.25mn in China. Full day should go for $5.8mn Approx including Thursday previews. Initial audience reports are mixed. Weekend under $20mn is a real possibility. Edited December 18, 2020 by charlie Jatinder 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...