exomassey Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, TigerPaw said: Why would a reason need to be provided specifically for this film? Black Widow, Jungle Cruise, Snake Eyes, Space Jam has all not been released. Do we need reasons for each of them? 😅 Like I mean is it being banned because of Shang Chi or Simu Liu. Even any film that Shang Chi or Simu Liu are in, will it be banned in China because of that? Or are the issues specifically with what happens in the first movie with his father and all that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, exomassey said: Like I mean is it being banned because of Shang Chi or Simu Liu. Even any film that Shang Chi or Simu Liu are in, will it be banned in China because of that? Or are the issues specifically with what happens in the first movie with his father and all that? i dont think that being banned and not get a release is exactly the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, exomassey said: Like I mean is it being banned because of Shang Chi or Simu Liu. Even any film that Shang Chi or Simu Liu are in, will it be banned in China because of that? Or are the issues specifically with what happens in the first movie with his father and all that? Good luck finding the answer. There is no need for them, and it is not expected of them, to give any reason. It is up to Disney & Marvel studios to decipher the reason and see whether they want to act according to what it being implied. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, john2000 said: not really but also theses films where release in a period where there was the black out,these were also hybrid releases and by the time that the studios could in theory push this films to release there it was prob already too late and prob not worth it.Now of course they dont need to explain shang absence i agree with you on that This is your point of view - and does not neccessarily represent what studios think. They were pushing hard for Snake Eyes. Space Jam was also pushed as an attempt to reconcille China and NBA's relationship. You think Dwayne Johnson won't push for Jungle Cruise in China despite the hybrid release? He is a huge draw there. All I can say it - sometimes things just don't happen and like we don't expect a reason to be spelled out for each of these films. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exomassey Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, TigerPaw said: Good luck finding the answer. There is no need for them, and it is not expected of them, to give any reason. It is up to Disney & Marvel studios to decipher the reason and see whether they want to act according to what it being implied. That’s just crazy to me. “Sorry we won’t release your film in China” “Why? What’s the reason?” “Figure it out yourselves!” I’m just worried because this could imply they won’t use Shang Chi in the avengers if they might lose one of the biggest markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, exomassey said: That’s just crazy to me. “Sorry we won’t release your film in China” “Why? What’s the reason?” “Figure it out yourselves!” I’m just worried because this could imply they won’t use Shang Chi in the avengers if they might lose one of the biggest markets. Like I said - many films didn't get release in China this year. Not just Shang Chi - and i don't think reasons are expected to be given. For each of this film - studios can come up with their own conclusions if they need to. And i genuinely think you are overthinking and overworried. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exomassey Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, TigerPaw said: Like I said - many films didn't get release in China this year. Not just Shang Chi - and i don't think reasons are expected to be given. For each of this film - studios can come up with their own conclusions if they need to. And i genuinely think you are overthinking and overworried. Okay maybe you’re right. Thanks for answering my questions anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arian1010 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, exomassey said: Like I mean is it being banned because of Shang Chi or Simu Liu. Even any film that Shang Chi or Simu Liu are in, will it be banned in China because of that? Or are the issues specifically with what happens in the first movie with his father and all that? Given the fact that Westerners really love seeing or love putting conspiracy/speculation articles that Simu/Shang Chi might get banned for the past few weeks (see this pokemon collection) so they can come up with a celebration article on Halloween where they could say "I told you sold", "China is bad", "Disney shouldn't kowtow to China" yada yada, i think most average joes in the West have already believed that Simu/Shang Chi might secretly get banned in China but Disney hasn't announced it yet. And even if SC officially got rejected and Disney came up with another reason, Western media would put out another conspiracy that perhaps Disney is too ashamed to admit the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menor the Destroyer Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 9 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said: Hoping for $300M in China for NWH. Need only 47M admits with recent ticket hikes and exchange rates. FFH was 39.4M so need just 20% increase which December can easily give. Why would it even need December for that? 20% is trivial considering the difference in hype. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Arian1010 said: Given the fact that Westerners really love seeing or love putting conspiracy/speculation articles that Simu/Shang Chi might get banned for the past few weeks (see this pokemon collection) so they can come up with a celebration article on Halloween where they could say "I told you sold", "China is bad", "Disney shouldn't kowtow to China" yada yada, i think most average joes in the West have already believed that Simu/Shang Chi might secretly get banned in China but Disney hasn't announced it yet. And even if SC officially got rejected and Disney came up with another reason, Western media would put out another conspiracy that perhaps Disney is too ashamed to admit the truth. Idk whats the reason for this articles to exist in the first place..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 9 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said: Hoping for $300M in China for NWH. Need only 47M admits with recent ticket hikes and exchange rates. FFH was 39.4M so need just 20% increase which December can easily give. 38 minutes ago, Menor said: Why would it even need December for that? 20% is trivial considering the difference in hype. What does hype for NWH look like in China, compared to the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Any idea when can we expect Dune presales ahead of Oct 22 release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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john2000 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fabiopazzo2 said: again this doesnt say anything, thats a poster from hong kong, shang chi also release there and yet the movie fate in china remains uncertain... Edited September 20, 2021 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 43 minutes ago, fabiopazzo2 said: so western media finally admit HK is part of China? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 46 minutes ago, fabiopazzo2 said: Poster is in traditional Chinese. Definitely not China which uses simplified Chinese. Anyway Hong Kong's release means nothing for Mainland China release. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poweranimals Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Gavin Feng said: so western media finally admit HK is part of China? I wouldn't exactly consider that guy part of the media. Also, it's a shame about the releases. With the lack of a Venom release, I'm starting to think China doesn't want anything to do with the Marvel brand at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 6 hours ago, poweranimals said: I wouldn't exactly consider that guy part of the media. Also, it's a shame about the releases. With the lack of a Venom release, I'm starting to think China doesn't want anything to do with the Marvel brand at all. ?? You are overthinking and overanalyzing. It just hasn't been announced. I am pretty sure Venom and NWH will both be released in China. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The GOAT Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 is it at possible for Dune to make $200mil+ here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, The GOAT said: is it at possible for Dune to make $200mil+ here? Tough; 1) Only 3D and 3D IMAX release announced so far, people wants 2D... And some say if no 2D, they will pirate it. 2) Piracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...