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jiangsen Sleeper Hit

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1 hour ago, firedeep said:

A piece of analysis already appeared on Mtime, why KFP3 flopped in China:

http://news.mtime.com/2016/01/31/1552076.html

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Wow, this seems way too premature. The movie has been out for less than 3 days, it's hard to extrapolate exactly where it'll go. Seems like fans of this film are far too emotional. Let this play out during the weekdays before jumping to wild conclusions.

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sgchn40 Indie Sensation

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2 hours ago, firedeep said:

A piece of analysis already appeared on Mtime, why KFP3 flopped in China:

http://news.mtime.com/2016/01/31/1552076.html

:ph34r:

 

The first point (about the release date) is the real killer... I believe either Firedeep or Olive had mentioned this before. If Macau 3 actually did better than KFP3, I will be damn crossed! 

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Archerdude Indie Sensation

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2 hours ago, a2knet said:

If the rumors are true, then how arrogant is the DW top brass to make such a huge blunder. How did those at the top reach that position with this attitude?

If employees at the lower rung of the ladder were this bad in their respective fields they would get fired.

 

On the positive side, if the under-performance in China (relative to expectations) is mainly due to the blunder in release date, it is a very fixable thing and KFP4 should be on. Cause the potential to make insane money in China will still be there for this franchise irrespective of KFP3 date issues.

 

I'll be more worried about how DW is going to keep afloat...no Shrek's, Madagascar cancelled and now KFP3's surefire status in China crashed and burned...where do they go from here?  Don't blame Fox they did not make these movies...they probably didn't decide either for US and China and a handful to go first and the rest to go to market in March.  FF7 really got many greedy and think that China is going to be easy and automatic, well guess what?  

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9 minutes ago, Archerdude said:

 

I'll be more worried about how DW is going to keep afloat...no Shrek's, Madagascar cancelled and now KFP3's surefire status in China crashed and burned...where do they go from here?  Don't blame Fox they did not make these movies...they probably didn't decide either for US and China and a handful to go first and the rest to go to market in March.  FF7 really got many greedy and think that China is going to be easy and automatic, well guess what?  

 

Tigerpaw will be so sad...

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Archerdude Indie Sensation

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29 minutes ago, sgchn40 said:

 

Tigerpaw will be so sad...

Sorry Tigerpaw...just means the last 6 months taught us all to pause and take note of the market's fickle tendencies, it maybe is hitting some form of a bottleneck or people's tastes changing for the better.  I'm slightly more pessimistic with KFP3 in particular and do not for a sec go with the "oh it's animated it is supposed to start slower" or "it's animated the multipliers will be higher" theories.  KFP3 was seen as the silver bullet to all these animated flick syndromes.  It was NOT supposed to behave like a Hollywood imported animated flick, with its cultural relevance, local connections (ODW and friends have been drum banging on this for years) and they sure did a lot of things around it.  Ultimately the market turned on them, I think firedeep may have a point on the date, if true that DWA decided against China Film's plans.  CFG may have done some things to remove a competitor or two instead the big movies in CNY will slice Po's legs right off.  I hope I'm wrong but I do think KFP3 transformed from success story to cautionary tale over the course of this weekend.

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1 minute ago, Archerdude said:

Sorry Tigerpaw...just means the last 6 months taught us all to pause and take note of the market's fickle tendencies, it maybe is hitting some form of a bottleneck or people's tastes changing for the better.  I'm slightly more pessimistic with KFP3 in particular and do not for a sec go with the "oh it's animated it is supposed to start slower" or "it's animated the multipliers will be higher" theories.  KFP3 was seen as the silver bullet to all these animated flick syndromes.  It was NOT supposed to behave like a Hollywood imported animated flick, with its cultural relevance, local connections (ODW and friends have been drum banging on this for years) and they sure did a lot of things around it.  Ultimately the market turned on them, I think firedeep may have a point on the date, if true that DWA decided against China Film's plans.  CFG may have done some things to remove a competitor or two instead the big movies in CNY will slice Po's legs right off.  I hope I'm wrong but I do think KFP3 transformed from success story to cautionary tale over the course of this weekend.

I forgot to say, DWA had their pick of the release date, that's not rare for a Hollywood flick, that's NEVER happened before!  All because of its local film status, and they just wasted it.  Also don't say animated sequels have less multipliers than live action...again, this ain't supposed to be no Hollywood flick, everything they have done since KFP2 was to position this as a local film through and through and perhaps the animated flick that doesn't need to have any of the animated film's usual maladies.  

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TigerPaw Box Office Gold

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29 minutes ago, Archerdude said:

Sorry Tigerpaw...just means the last 6 months taught us all to pause and take note of the market's fickle tendencies, it maybe is hitting some form of a bottleneck or people's tastes changing for the better.  I'm slightly more pessimistic with KFP3 in particular and do not for a sec go with the "oh it's animated it is supposed to start slower" or "it's animated the multipliers will be higher" theories.  KFP3 was seen as the silver bullet to all these animated flick syndromes.  It was NOT supposed to behave like a Hollywood imported animated flick, with its cultural relevance, local connections (ODW and friends have been drum banging on this for years) and they sure did a lot of things around it.  Ultimately the market turned on them, I think firedeep may have a point on the date, if true that DWA decided against China Film's plans.  CFG may have done some things to remove a competitor or two instead the big movies in CNY will slice Po's legs right off.  I hope I'm wrong but I do think KFP3 transformed from success story to cautionary tale over the course of this weekend.


If it was a bad strategic move by DWA, then nothing to be upset about. =) I mean I thought KFP3 will beat Monkey King 2 in China, I was quite pessimistic about MK2, but MK2 seems to be turing to become the champion for CNY while Panda will be the bottom(if we count it as a CNY movie). 


I mean, it is not China audiences having weird taste you know, not screen count issues or anything to blame, it is DWA being stubborn and too optimistic with its Jan 29th Release date, so bad move on their part. It is a huge company and will rebound back..haha. That's what I believe.
Also very interesting to see Weekday holds, and how many percentage screen count it will get on Feb 8th. =)

Anyways, I am more interested to see how Po will do in overseas BO against Zootopia, will be an exciting March worldwide. =) And how BvS changes the landscape at end of march, exciting year ahead, many things to look forward to. :rolleyes:

PS: Anyone else saw the new Mermaid trailer? I am a huge Stephen Chow fan, but that trailer is just Awful. :unsure:

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42 minutes ago, TigerPaw said:


If it was a bad strategic move by DWA, then nothing to be upset about. =) I mean I thought KFP3 will beat Monkey King 2 in China, I was quite pessimistic about MK2, but MK2 seems to be turing to become the champion for CNY while Panda will be the bottom(if we count it as a CNY movie). 


I mean, it is not China audiences having weird taste you know, not screen count issues or anything to blame, it is DWA being stubborn and too optimistic with its Jan 29th Release date, so bad move on their part. It is a huge company and will rebound back..haha. That's what I believe.
Also very interesting to see Weekday holds, and how many percentage screen count it will get on Feb 8th. =)

Anyways, I am more interested to see how Po will do in overseas BO against Zootopia, will be an exciting March worldwide. =) And how BvS changes the landscape at end of march, exciting year ahead, many things to look forward to. :rolleyes:

PS: Anyone else saw the new Mermaid trailer? I am a huge Stephen Chow fan, but that trailer is just Awful. :unsure:

I hear some people on the fence canceled their plan of watching Merimaid after today's trailer...

 

Months ago, I also thought MK2 would be the lowest CNY release.

 

Still, I think it's too close to tell how MK2/Macao3/Merimaid would rank.

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If a movie is good people will want to see it. A smaller opening may occur due to the date but WOM will give it legs. If WOM is good then it will hold close to flat during the week. It may get knocked down to 5% screens for CNY, but I've noticed that If the BO market share is greater than the screen share, it quickly regains screens. TMK opened small, then up against MH  and JBM opening huge it held its market share and screen percentage when China saw its first 400mY day.  It held at -33% weekly against many new summer openers and held is screen count in turn while many movies faded away.  So it's possible KFP3 holds. If the movie is so so then it would've gotten crushed regardless with a CNY opening 

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