druv10 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, firedeep said: exact reason why TLK greenlighted for July 12 Hobbs & Shaw, Once Upon A Time in HLW both on track for day and date relase Can you give more thorough reasons as to why censor Chinese movies vs imports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Max Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, Geo1500 said: This. Seems like FFH has got all the luck in world with them Ang give me one more time Yeah ... everything going good for FHH ... $1 B incoming 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, firedeep said: It is possible that Eight Hundred, Better Days, The Last Wish, the three biggest local films of this summer, will all be banned by CCP. SAD It is sad but laughable too as well. Imagine MPAA banning Endgame and TROS in US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserHN Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said: It is sad but laughable too as well. Imagine MPAA banning Endgame and TROS in US. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Max Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said: It is sad but laughable too as well. Imagine MPAA banning Endgame and TROS in US. Really lollll ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justvision Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, nxt said: run into censorship issues at Beijing's Central Propaganda Authority Eight Hundred is a double edge sword to CCP. It is based on the historical Defense of Sihang Warehouse (DoSW), one of the most iconic battle in War of Resistance against Japanese aggression in 1937-1945. However, the 800 soldiers (actual number was 423) were from Nationalist Army under Chiang Kai-shek led Kuomintang (KMT, Chinese Nationalist Party), the archrival of Chinese Communist Party. CCP might fight a few battles in Sino-Japanese War, but certainly had no role at all in DoSW. Nationalist Army/KMT suffered great loss in this Sino-Japanese War, while many people believe CCP and its army did not fully engage themselve in this war but rather benefited from it and grew in size and strength by dodging. CCP finally defeated KMT in the 1945-1949 Civil War. Chiang Kai-shek and his Nationalist Army retreated to Taiwan. In past 20 years, CCP slowly and gradually recognises Nationalist Army/KMT's role in War of Resistance, but insists that CCP was the mainstay/cornerstone/"tower of strength" in the War. So on one hand Eight Hundred can promote the patriotism which may help the Chinese to be steadfast in current Trade War with USA. On the other hand, it may stir up controversy with regards to CCP's role in War of Resistance, and how much cover-up of historical facts occurred under CCP's regime. Not a good timing when China economy is not in good shape to let doubts cast on the regime's authenticity/legitimacy. 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 TBH I was expecting 800 to be banned after @Gavin Feng pointing out few months back that China is getting hard on propoganda films like Wolf Warrior 2. I don't know historical accuracy of 800 but I won't shed any tears if something awful like WW 2 is banned 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) . Edited September 14, 2019 by Gavin Feng 6 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justvision Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said: TBH I was expecting 800 to be banned after @Gavin Feng pointing out few months back that China is getting hard on propoganda films like Wolf Warrior 2. I don't know historical accuracy of 800 but I won't shed any tears if something awful like WW 2 is banned Ironically, if Eight Hundred is historically accurate, it is very likely be banned by CCP. If it is not truthful about (or underplays) which Army the soldiers were from, and instead plays up the "inspirational role" CCP claims it had on Chinese people back in Resistance War, then it can be released. My guess is, this film will be asked to do major overhaul before re-submitted to censorship board. Edited June 14, 2019 by justvision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiQ Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said: It is sad but laughable too as well. Imagine MPAA banning Endgame and TROS in US. More like if president was Bernie Sanders and he banned American sniper 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movies4Life Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 One more question, @Gavin Feng. The last BIG release of the summer: Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs and Shaw. Are we still thinking it can get a day and date release with the US in China on August 2nd? Or is it too early to tell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Movies4Life said: One more question, @Gavin Feng. The last BIG release of the summer: Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs and Shaw. Are we still thinking it can get a day and date release with the US in China on August 2nd? Or is it too early to tell? some chances to get a Aug date. If not, it probably will not come until the middle of Oct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, VenomXXR said: That’s crazy to me. Yea it’s great for FFH and TLK, but at the expense of potentially amazing Chinese cinema. Sucks. 1 hour ago, druv10 said: Can you give more thorough reasons as to why censor Chinese movies vs imports? Because Chinese audiences tend to less emtionally invested in imported films which boast foreign characters and are about stories taking place aboard—at least in most cases. Even more so when it comes to grand made Hollywood films. They are just there to be entertained. However, from local films, audiences often, and necessarily expect to get not only entertainment but also thoughts, and reflections of the culture and socity they live in. Famliar faces of local actors only enhance the connection. CCP certainly knows it. Its propaganda centrum knows it. So there be the double standards of censorship on local and imported films. When the regime is built on threats and lies, speaking of totalitarian, naturally everything shall be censored: thought, theory, opinion, discovery, publication, art...film is just a small part of the big picture....only to find out and put out any potentail revolt, any fighting against authoritarian & authority. The authority could be the government, the police, or an official, a parent, a teacher, a professor. Fundamentally it is the same parenting role. Many Chinese films simply died because of this. China is not 1984......yet. But objectively the US-China trade war is moving China one step closer to Noth Korea, on the political attitude so far, as CCP tights its control on Chinese people. It is possible that China bans American films alltogether if the tension rises, aka revolving into a new cold war, a totally disconnected China and US. With The Eight Hundred (maybe Better Days and The Last Wish as well), we have our first caucalties (at CBO). Edited sentence: of course, eventually these films could still struggle to theaters, after raped by censorship. Edited June 14, 2019 by firedeep 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movies4Life Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: some chances to get a Aug date. If not, it probably will not come until the middle of Oct. Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 minute ago, firedeep said: It is possible that China bans American films alltogether if the tension rises, aka revolving into a new cold war, a totally disconnected China and US. There goes Avatar sequels $2Bn club. 1 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) dp Edited June 14, 2019 by firedeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Max Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 @a2k KOTM drop ... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) Dark Phoenix with a whopping 95% drops from last Friday. Probably around 55-56m after this weekend. Total may not be much more than 60-61m. Maybe even less at 55m. Atrocious legs. Godzilla 2 with a 89% drop from last Friday. Dont see more than 130m at this point. Edited June 14, 2019 by ZeeSoh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said: Dark Phoenix with a whopping 95% drops from last Friday. Probably around 55-56m after this weekend. Total may not be much more than 60-61m. Maybe even less at 55m. Atrocious legs. Godzilla 2 with a 89% drop from last Friday. Dont see more than 130m at this point. Both are toast. Zilla wont come near 130 mill and DP seems to be headed around 57-58 mill total Edited June 14, 2019 by fmpro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Sunny Max said: @a2k KOTM drop ... That total Dark P number is way of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...