China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

[Issac Newton]

11 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

I am happy that Marvel has not backed off just because a regressive overly sensitive neurotic government got their feelings hurt by a few comments which were absolutely true. And I hope Marvel does not back off in the future either

Yes! It's really appreciating that Disney (Marvel) is still sending print for review. 

 

Despite of what's happening at present, whether it's a re-settle issue of Wuhan Variants or comments made back years back. I firmly believe in Dr. Strange power. I won't lose until it get release ~~

 

Dr. Strange : "Dormammu (CFA), I’ve come to bargain"

 

[efialtes76]

Why FB3 is dropping a 60% today?

[ZeeSoh]

6 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

Yes! It's really appreciating that Disney (Marvel) is still sending print for review. 

Why wouldn't they? It's the government that has a stick up their ass, not Marvel. 

[Issac Newton]

3 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

Why wouldn't they? It's the government that has a stick up their ass, not Marvel. 

It's some time frustrating. I have seen several Japanese films mostly live action, dropping out plans when they keep failing to pass approval. 

 

Spreading positive vibes that they aren't giving up which is really appreciating. BTW, Approval authority is China Film Administration (CFA) not Xi's Government.

[Issac Newton]

Sunday Estimates:

#1 Fantastic Beasts 3 : ¥2.5M / ¥110.8M 

#2 Man On The Edge : ¥2.4M / ¥60.3M

#3 Ambulance : ¥1.7M / ¥8.3M 

#4 Drishyam : ¥1.1M / ¥10.2M (+1)

#5 Hotel Transylvania 4 : ¥1M / ¥58.1M (-1)

 

Ambulance's Score

8.3 (~3.3K) : Maoyan 

7.9 (~2.5K) : Taopiaopiao

5.9 (~6.4K) : Douban

[TigerPaw]

10 hours ago, Issac Newton said:

I see "Fight! Mom" 《出拳吧！妈妈》arriving at 30 April 2022. How was the reception of this film in 2021 Shanghai Film festival?

 

DC rules. At some point, I thought "Moonfall" is going to crash "The Batman" I guess with Cinema Re-opening in each Weekend, box office will be growing back in multiple! A good sign for better future.

@Gavin Fengis in a better position to answer this. He might have seen the film. Haha.

[Issac Newton]

Most Anticipated Imported Titles of 2022

347,734 : Fantastic Beast 3

250,471 : The Batman

176,372 : Matrix Resurrection

146,663 : Hotel Transylvania 4

143,238 : Moonfall

132,758 : Uncharted

x91,927 : Death On The Nile

x57,353 : A Rainy Day in New York

x55,894 : Encanto

x46,550 : Paw Patrol The Movie

x40,149 : Escape Room 2

x38,917 : We Made A Beautiful Bouquet

x17,034 : Drishyam

xx9,408 : Ambulance

xx7,465 : Kanaa

xx4,161 : 2018 Yokai Watch Movie

xx3,724 : Oops! The Adventure Continues

 

*Still Counting

Note : Includes only recently released through out 2022 (Jan-April)

 

Comparison:

With admits

3,885,260 : The Batman*

3,803,519 : Moonfall*

3,336,593 : Uncharted*

2,943,280 : Fantastic Beast 3*

2,627,465 : We Made A Beautiful Bouquet

2,504,134 : Paw Patrol The Movie

2,253,779 : Matrix Resurrection

2,029,606 : Encanto

1,768,335 : Hotel Transylvania 4*

1,711,808 : Death On The Nile

1,373,868 : Escape Room 2*

x330,646 : A Rainy Day in New York

x312,251 : Drishyam*

x233,049 : Ambulance*

x178,700 : Mon Inconnue*

xx97,473 : Kanna

 

*Still Running

 

With Gross

¥147.00M : The Batman*

¥134.00M : Moonfall*

¥117.00M : Uncharted*

¥111.00M : Fantastic Beast 3*

¥x90.39M : We Made A Beautiful Bouquet*

¥x85.75M : Matrix Resurrection

¥x82.50M : Paw Patrol The Movie

¥x76.68M : Encanto

¥x68.50M : Death On The Nile

¥x58.14M : Hotel Transylvania 4*

¥x45.75M : Escape Room 2*

¥x12.70M : A Rainy Day in New York

¥x10.19M : Drishyam*

¥xx8.31M : Ambulance*

¥xx6.03M : Mon Inconnue*

¥xx3.19M : Kanaa

¥xx1.36M : Oops! The Adventure Continues*

¥xxx.83M : 2018 Yokai Watch Movie

 

*Still Running

Edited April 24, 2022 by Issac Newton

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

3 hours ago, Issac Newton said:

Yes! It's really appreciating that Disney (Marvel) is still sending print for review. 

 

Despite of what's happening at present, whether it's a re-settle issue of Wuhan Variants or comments made back years back. I firmly believe in Dr. Strange power. I won't lose until it get release ~~

 

Dr. Strange : "Dormammu (CFA), I’ve come to bargain"

 

 

I don't follow China BO as well as some of y'all but I've seen no indication that it'll release in China. Maybe I missed something.

 

IIRC in the past we'd get a China release date 2 weeks or so before its premiere. Sometimes more. There's no word there. We are now 7 Marvel movies in a row and counting without a China release.

 

  

11 hours ago, newbie BO buff said:

Is there no hope for  DSITMOM?

Or subsequent MCU films for that matter?

 

There's a gay character, apparently prominent enough where editing is not feasible and the movie got banned in some countries already. That plus the supernatural stuff + the streak of Marvel movies not released in China tells me chances of it happening is pretty low.

 

Thor is probably not happening as there'll be some gay themes in that movie. Same with The Marvels. BP Wakanda Forever and Ant Man are maybes, but we don't know anything about those movies or if the apparent de facto Marvel ban will have been lifted by then.

 

3 hours ago, ZeeSoh said:

I am happy that Marvel has not backed off just because a regressive overly sensitive neurotic government got their feelings hurt by a few comments which were absolutely true. And I hope Marvel does not back off in the future either

 

It's easy to say that when it's not your money in play. Though they shouldn't because of the current high debt and low liquidity Marvel and Disney can kinda eat up not getting the ~20-25% gross from a likely 50-100MM BO Gross that Eternals or Shang Chi would have gotten. However something like their regular movies that get to 150MM or 200MM then it becomes a bit harder. Avengers or the inevitable Secret Wars....those would net Disney over 100MM each. It would be fiduciary irresponsible to their shareholders to not release these products there.

[honeycookiez]

^

This, finally, someone said something objective and not influenced by political preference. It's all about money and making shareholders happy. I believe all of us know, deep down the Mouse couldn't care less about these political conflicts no matter how much the anti-CCP want them to give up and stop catering to China. Even hardcore Marvel stans on Reddit pretty much can recognize the truth, Disney often uses small markets as a "proof" to media play on western tabloids that they're a "woke" hero or whatever, but the truth is when it comes to a big market like China, they would willing to kowtow and crawl if they could, but the "banning" of Marvel recently is not something they could resolve all by themselves, least they could do now is keep sending previews consistently before the shareholders realize the truth and get pissed off.

 

 I think at this point it's obvious that Disney regrets hiring Zhao, not just because of the whole drama with the CCP, but mostly because of the meh box office performance and low RT scores of Eternals. The other directors, writers, showrunners, and even music composers of other Marvel films/shows immediately got new jobs and got assigned to other MCU or even Star Wars projects while your Zhao is pretty much a goner at this point. Now Disney will have to salvage the Eternals characters and pair them with other newcomers, which I think ain't as easy as altering the plan for a single character like Thor/Thor Dark World in the previous phase. Ironically the critics were right,  Zhao is MCU's Snyder incident on a small scale, at least Zhao can't hurt MCU in the long run as much as how Snyder single handly turned 2 DC tentpole superheroes into a joke and damaged the franchise in 2016.

Edited April 25, 2022 by honeycookiez

[John2015]

5 hours ago, honeycookiez said:

^

This, finally, someone said something objective and not influenced by political preference. It's all about money and making shareholders happy. I believe all of us know, deep down the Mouse couldn't care less about these political conflicts no matter how much the anti-CCP want them to give up and stop catering to China. Even hardcore Marvel stans on Reddit pretty much can recognize the truth, Disney often uses small markets as a "proof" to media play on western tabloids that they're a "woke" hero or whatever, but the truth is when it comes to a big market like China, they would willing to kowtow and crawl if they could, but the "banning" of Marvel recently is not something they could resolve all by themselves, least they could do now is keep sending previews consistently before the shareholders realize the truth and get pissed off.

 

 I think at this point it's obvious that Disney regrets hiring Zhao, not just because of the whole drama with the CCP, but mostly because of the meh box office performance and low RT scores of Eternals. The other directors, writers, showrunners, and even music composers of other Marvel films/shows immediately got new jobs and got assigned to other MCU or even Star Wars projects while your Zhao is pretty much a goner at this point. Now Disney will have to salvage the Eternals characters and pair them with other newcomers, which I think ain't as easy as altering the plant for a single character like Thor/Thor Dark World in the previous phase. Ironically the critics were right,  Zhao is MCU's Snyder incident on a small scale, at least Zhao can't hurt MCU in the long run as much as how Snyder single handly turned 2 DC tentpole superheroes into a joke and damaged the franchise in 2016.

 

 

For China government, "Shang-chi" is at least as problematic as Zhao.

 

If Marvel really want China market more than anything, they would dump Shang-chi.

However, Marvel is still going to make "Shang-chi" sequel. 

[John2015]

13 hours ago, Issac Newton said:

It's some time frustrating. I have seen several Japanese films mostly live action, dropping out plans when they keep failing to pass approval. 

 

Spreading positive vibes that they aren't giving up which is really appreciating. BTW, Approval authority is China Film Administration (CFA) not Xi's Government.

Xi's government would have final says on anything.

 

Rumor reports were that CFA did give Sony guidelines about how to edit "Spider-Man: No Way Home" (including to delete Shang-Chi from Marvel Studios' logo).   Sony did accept CFA's guidelines to re-edit the film.

But still, "Spider-Man: No Way Home" hadn't been released in China yet. 

[The GOAT]

China to Marvel:  

 

[Issac Newton]

Marvel Cinematic Universe in Mainland China

 

Phase I

¥568.27M : The Avengers (2012-05-05)

¥175.09M : Iron Man 2 (2010-05-07)

¥x97.79M : Thor (2011-05-08)

¥x92.00M : Iron Man (2008-04-30)

¥x65.77M : Captain America (2011-09-09)

¥x60.00M :The Incredible Hulk (2008-08-20)

 

Phase II

¥1461.18M : Avengers 2 (2015-05-12)

¥x754.86M : Iron Man 3 (2013-05-01)

¥x718.98M : Captain America 2 (2014-04-04)

¥x670.35M : Ant Man (2015-10-16)

¥x596.40M : Guardians Of The Galaxy (2014-10-10)

¥x342.35M : Thor 2 (2013-11-08)

 

Phase III

¥4250.13M : Avengers: Endgame (2019-04-24)

¥2390.51M : Avengers: Infinity War (2018-05-11)

¥1417.67M : Spiderman Far From Home (2019-06-28)

¥1243.97M : Captain America 3 (2016-05-06)

¥1035.17M : Captain Marvel (2019-03-08)

¥x831.57M : Ant Man 2 (2018-08-24)

¥x774.77M : Spiderman Homecoming (2017-09-09)

¥x750.20M : Dr. Strange (2016-11-04)

¥x743.71M : Thor 3 (2017-11-03)

¥x686.15M : Guardians Of The Galaxy 2 (2017-05-05)

¥x662.60M : Black Panther (2018-03-09)

 

Maoyan (Admits / Want To See /Score)

86,811,549 / 1,849,927 / 9.1 (~1.9M) : Avengers Endgame

62,508,431 / 1,146,071 / 9.0 (~1.8M) : Avengers Infinity War

39,489,359 / 502,087 / 9.0 (~809K) : Spiderman Far From Home

36,530,385 / 321,146 / 8.6 (~1.4M) : Avengers 2

35,554,386 / 567,624 / 8.6 (~1.0M) : Captain America 3

27,842,614 / 432,611 / 8.7 (~480K) : Captain Marvel

23,065,527 / 319,327 / 8.8 (~473K) : Ant Man 2

22,039,032 / 482,982 / 8.2 (~585K) : Spiderman Homecoming 

21,505,016 / 205,173 / 8.9 (~571K) : Dr. Strange

20,969,571 / 218,426 / 8.9 (~517K) : Thor 3

18,565,754 / 265,588 / 8.9 (~700K) : Ant Man

18,409,941 / x22,298 / 9.2 (~96.9K) : Captain America 2

18,408,733 / 154,543 / 9.1 (~481K) : Guardians Of The Galaxy 2

18,370,109 / 283,239 / 8.4 (~529K) : Black Panther 

18,043,789 / x20,294 / 9.0 (~13.5K) : Iron Man 3

15,454,088 / x51,623 / 9.2 (~206K) : Guardians Of The Galaxy

x8,807,868 / x11,177 / 8.7 (~14.2K) : Thor 2

 

Note: Maoyan Numbers are from Phase II. Before Phase II, numbers are negligible like Want To Score of The Avengers (2012) is 399 and so on...

[honeycookiez]

2 hours ago, John2015 said:

 

 

For China government, "Shang-chi" is at least as problematic as Zhao.

 

If Marvel really want China market more than anything, they would dump Shang-chi.

However, Marvel is still going to make "Shang-chi" sequel. 

 

I saw Marvel fans on Reddit had discussed that the next sequel might be reformed to "Agents of Atlas" (similar to Captain Marvel sequel had become The Marvels). It's not because of CCP but because of their so-called new strategy or whatever fancy way they're calling it, which *coincidentally* is similar to how they agreed on removing Shang Chi from Marvel logo, the main hero/heroine suddenly isn't prominent in his/her sequel I suppose. And all we know so far from the official announcement of the studio is they have promised a detailed future specifically for ...Shang Chi's sister with a new spin-off D+ show. But the sequel for Shang Chi is just an empty talk and we don't even know if we have to wait for another 6 years or more like Dr. Strange and his sequel.

[Arian1010]

The official Douyin account of Maoyan just posted this clip with simplified Chinese subtitles, is it a good sign? Does it mean at least Dr. Strange 2 would  get a (late) release date in the main land?

 

#奇异博士2 曝光了一段正片片段，奇异博士对战超强魔头眼魔，好激烈 - 抖音 (douyin.com)

 

Edited April 29, 2022 by Arian1010

[poweranimals]

Not falling for it again. Don't make me have hope!

Edited April 29, 2022 by poweranimals

[Sophia Jane]

Fuck!

Don't even think about DS2 will released in China anymore,

Our network has been bombed recently because someone found that DS 2 trailers propaganda cult ,and that propaganda used Chinese Language, which make most Chinese angry again, Most people diss Marvel again after Shang-Chi event,this time even Marvel fans does not support Marvel,

For example, our website has a vlogger called Lorre(same stuff like Youtuber）, He is an avid Marvel fan before, but after this cult incident, he publicly declared that he would no longer support Marvel

I don't understand why Marvel do this again and again and again,this is bullshit.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Bruce

[JustLurking]

1 hour ago, Bruce said:

Fuck!

Don't even think about DS2 will released in China anymore,

Our network has been bombed recently because someone found that DS 2 trailers propaganda cult ,and that propaganda used Chinese Language, which make most Chinese angry again, Most people diss Marvel again after Shang-Chi event,this time even Marvel fans does not support Marvel,

For example, our website has a vlogger called Lorry(same stuff like Youtuber）, He is an avid Marvel fan before, but after this cult incident, he publicly declared that he would no longer support Marvel

I don't understand why Marvel do this again and again and again,this is bullshit.

I don't really get what happened here, "DS2 trailers propaganda cult"?

[Issac Newton]

Dr. Strange 2 is officially banned from releasing in Mainland China 🚫

 

 

Edited April 29, 2022 by Issac Newton

[Issac Newton]

7 hours ago, Arian1010 said:

The official Douyin account of Maoyan just posted this clip with simplified Chinese subtitles, is it a good sign? Does it mean at least Dr. Strange 2 would  get a (late) release date in the main land?

 

#奇异博士2 曝光了一段正片片段，奇异博士对战超强魔头眼魔，好激烈 - 抖音 (douyin.com)

 

This video has been taken down. I have searched it multiple times (even through your links) As Bruce said above I guess what has happened.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Issac Newton