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[Michael Gary Scott]

What are you talking about? Release dates, especially summer dates are claimed at least a year in advance. I don't know who claimed their date first, but NOBODY a year out was predicting TDK to open THAT big. It's easy in hindsight to say, that was a dumb idea, but there's nothing that can be done about it now.

Name an instance where a comic book movie have come out one week after another hellboy 2 wasn't going to be big regardless but universal gave it no chance and why a sequel will never be made

[TServo2049]

Del Toro has explained several times why we don't have Hellboy 3. It wasn't because Hellboy 2 underperformed - because it increased from the first.Remember, he also spent several years in the wilderness of in-development projects - At the Mountains of Madness, Pinocchio, The Hobbit, The Haunted Mansion.

Edited July 5, 2014 by TServo2049

[Deep Wang]

Name an instance where a comic book movie have come out one week after another hellboy 2 wasn't going to be big regardless but universal gave it no chance and why a sequel will never be made

Do we even know who claimed their date first? You say they have it no chance, but releasing it on the middle of summer is giving it a big chance. You are too set on knowing what TDK turned out to be. Think about when this was announced and in development. Ledger was still alive and everyone doubted him as Joker. There hadn't been a trailer there was nothing about this movie that made anyone seem like it was going to do anywhere near as well as it did.

[Neo]

That would be so ironic if WB/DC slated one of their DCU movie up against it so PR2 would suffer the same fate as HB2.

Unless it BvS2, MoS2, JL or Batman won't happen. Looking at that April date won't happen.

Edited July 5, 2014 by Neo

[Neo]

Of course its not a statistically valid survey because even with the 100 people he interacts with maybe 7 people even seen the movie.  And of course its possible that the people he knows that did not like the film are the only 3 people that felt that way.

 

That said there have been several people in this thread that have said similar.  I have a similar experience where I was the only one of my group that liked the first movie and I only know 1 other person that actually liked it enough to talk about seeing it.  Again we can all be isolated cases of people not liking the film.

 

But then you add that in with the okish opening despite a great date, 3D and Imax screen, its weak legs and a bit of underperformance on Disk sales it starts to paint a picture of not many people actually liking the film. 

2.7X is weak?

 

[John Marston]

2.7X is weak?

For a non sequel it is not good. Compared to other non sequels in summer 2013 it is weak Edited July 5, 2014 by John Marston

[jimisawesome]

2.7X is weak?

 

Grown Ups 2 released the same day had a 3.2x

Conjuring a week later had a 3.29x

RIPD was just under with a 2.66x

WHD 2.94x

REDS 2 2.9x

2 Guns 2.8x

Elysium 3.1x

Percy Jackson 4.7x

City of Bones 3.3x

Worlds End 2.9x

[Feracious]

Del Toro has explained several times why we don't have Hellboy 3. It wasn't because Hellboy 2 underperformed - because it increased from the first.Remember, he also spent several years in the wilderness of in-development projects - At the Mountains of Madness, Pinocchio, The Hobbit, The Haunted Mansion.

 

He's not making Hellboy 3 because he can't get the budget he wants. So it has something to with the second's box office take. 

[TServo2049]

I thought it also had to do with issues between where Del Toro wants to take the movies, and where Mike Mignola wants to take the comics?

[ddddeeee]

GDT said to do the Hellboy movie he wants he needs like $150M or something and no studio will agree to that.

[RobinHood26]

Hellboy 2's scope is huge for an 85m dollar film. Looked like it cost at least 100m.

[Deep Wang]

Hellboy 2's scope is huge for an 85m dollar film. Looked like it cost at least 100m.

 

 

Yeah, I find it weird that he would suddenly need another $65m to make the third. 

[Empire]

Yeah, I find it weird that he would suddenly need another $65m to make the third.

Maybe that just shows how big in scope he wants to make it. He must want it to be really huge if he needs that much more money for the budget.

[TServo2049]

From what I've read,

Hellboy becomes the Beast of the Apocalypse, so he needs a bigger budget to show said apocalypse.

Perlman is also getting old. It'd be a shame if HB3 goes the way of King Conan or Evil Dead 4.

Edited July 5, 2014 by TServo2049

[kaijukurt]

Imagine if both Hellboy 3 AND At the Mountains of Madness got green-lit. :oThat would be too much for mere mortals.

[ddddeeee]

You all know this well but it always needs reiterated, Hellboy II is incredible.

[CoolioD1]

I'm dreaming the situation is like Iron Man where the Jericho missile/pacific rim 2 is what the terrorists/studio wants tony stark/gdt to make but really he's building a super awesome suit of armor/hellboy 3 right under their nose. it's the only way to get it with the budget he wants, I guess.

[Deep Wang]

You all know this well but it always needs reiterated, Hellboy II is incredible.

 

See, I think Hellboy 2 is really good and it looks fucking astounding.  But, the entire premise is hinged upon a really simple and silly plot devise that I can't really look past.

[Deep Wang]

I'm dreaming the situation is like Iron Man where the Jericho missile/pacific rim 2 is what the terrorists/studio wants tony stark/gdt to make but really he's building a super awesome suit of armor/hellboy 3 right under their nose. it's the only way to get it with the budget he wants, I guess.

 

I would love another Hellboy, but I doubt that would happen at that price.  Unless PR2 increased significantly, which even I'm skeptical of.  

 

PR2 will have the advantage of an insane China gross, I don't know if China would be into another Hellboy, or if they ever were.

[Dementeleus]

It's very simple: PR2 needs to prominently feature Crimson Typhoon 2.0, with a battle in the South China Sea.