TLK Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 There are facts, there are opinions and then there is just plain nonsense. Bradley Cooper over DDL is just nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acsc1312 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 There are facts, there are opinions and then there is just plain nonsense. Bradley Cooper over DDL is just nonsense.Anyone over Phoenix is just plain nonsense. That said, I don't mind cooper winning at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Anyone who wins any best actor award this year needs to apologise for stealing it from Denis Lavant, but whatever, plenty of other amazing performances that are going to get recognition, with Cooper's being one of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forg Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yay for Perks of Being a Wallflower! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 There are facts, there are opinions and then there is just plain nonsense. Bradley Cooper over DDL is just nonsense.No it isn`t. Cooper is great really great and he was doing something he usually doesn`t. OTOH, DDL has shawn all his cards. he can do broad acting, he can be restrained. Licn is apparently closer to his pre-Bill the Butcher and Ham Chopper work. And both AMPAS and critics love "wow, who knew he/she could do that" surprises sometimes. Natalie Portman`s BS win was all about "wow, did you see that? Portman? Wow." Not that she used to be bad or anything (she was an oscar nominee for playing a stripper) but she took it to a different level in BS and there was also physicla work involved and that always impresses. Plus, Cooper is playing a bi polar, so it`s a baity shit and IMO much harder to play when asked to also provide some comedy along with drama. His timing for both here is insane. he was switching form one to another effortlessly.Anyone over Phoenix is just plain nonsense. That said, I don't mind cooper winning at all.Phoenix may end up missing out a nom but he has only himself to blame with his shit talk about oscars. yes, he`s right, it`s all politics and money and not really about perforemnce and talent but by talking about how low it is to campaign for yourself you are aslo campaigning for yourself only in staged anti-campaign way. It`s still whoring for attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forg Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I'm surprised with NBR recognizing Ann Dowd, I would expect that from NYC or LA but not them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 WOO HOO for Wreck-It Ralph and Looper!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Looper entered another Top 10, saw it on AD. Perhaps unexpected throw-geeks-a-bone nomination a la D9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Looper entered another Top 10, saw it on AD. Perhaps unexpected throw-geeks-a-bone nomination a la D9?Could get a screenwriting nom I suppose. All the frontrunners this year are in adapted screenplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forg Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yeah I think Looper could sneak in for original screenplay nomination as well, the adapted screenplay though is a bloodbath with tough competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yeah I think Looper could sneak in for original screenplay nomination as well, the adapted screenplay though is a bloodbath with tough competitionNBR doesn't have a particularly good track record with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) Cooper deserves to be recognized. I don't necessarily think it was a groundbreaking performance- sometimes he had that "you know he's acting" quality- but it was solid enough. And showed he's not as shallow an actor as previously thought. Edited December 6, 2012 by Silver Linings aDIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 And vs DDL. Come on. We know DDL can pull of historical legend. Nobody knew Bradley Cooper was capable of layered, dramatic, comedic, restrained all in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLK Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 No it isn`t. Cooper is great really great and he was doing something he usually doesn`t. OTOH, DDL has shawn all his cards. he can do broad acting, he can be restrained.This isn't special olympics. People shouldn't be rewarded just because there are low expectations for them. DDL is better than Bradley Cooper. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) This isn't special olympics. People shouldn't be rewarded just because there are low expectations for them. DDL is better than Bradley Cooper. Period.Oh don't be thick. We all know it's never worked and never will work like that. Even psychologically we're more likely to even say that a very good performance from a very low expectation is much better than a towering performance with towering expectations. Fact. So, I think that it may even be subconscious for some of the voters, they do honestly think that Cooper is better because subconsciously the difference between the resulting performance and the expectation of it can influence that decision. DDL delivered what we thought he'd deliver, Cooper blew away expectations. Edited December 6, 2012 by riczhang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acsc1312 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I do think DDL will ultimately win the Oscar, but I sure hope cooper and Phoenix pick up wins like this throughout the season. Cooper will prolly get GG for comedy, DDL for drama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I do think DDL will ultimately win the Oscar, but I sure hope cooper and Phoenix pick up wins like this throughout the season. Cooper will prolly get GG for comedy, DDL for drama Jackman says hi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLK Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Oh don't be thick. We all know it's never worked and never will work like that. Even psychologically we're more likely to even say that a very good performance from a very low expectation is much better than a towering performance with towering expectations. Fact. So, I think that it may even be subconscious for some of the voters, they do honestly think that Cooper is better because subconsciously the difference between the resulting performance and the expectation of it can influence that decision. DDL delivered what we thought he'd deliver, Cooper blew away expectations.Expectations don't figure into this at all. Bradley Cooper will not beat out DDL for Oscars. Maybe Denzel or Phoenix but Cooper isn't winning it. Who knows why they awarded Bradley Cooper and Ann Dowd but neither of them are going to win Oscars this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Expectations don't figure into this at all. Bradley Cooper will not beat out DDL for Oscars. Maybe Denzel or Phoenix but Cooper isn't winning it. Who knows why they awarded Bradley Cooper and Ann Dowd but neither of them are going to win Oscars this year.I agree with that, but I'm just offering up a logical explanation as to why someone would vote for Cooper over DDL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I must say I am pleasantly surprised by the NBR picks! Team Leo all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
