forg Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) He's a great writer, but he's pretty much in deep with Pixar. He's not really indicative of a consensus. Yup but it's more on a personal level since his taste in movies (mainstream ones that is) is most of the time in line with my taste Edited June 19, 2012 by forg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLK Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Brave is #2 on Fandango right now. ( Monday sales) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoot Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Brave is #2 on Fandango right now. ( Monday sales) Is that good? Or shouldn't it be #1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 It's quite good, may hit 70M OW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoot Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 1 more fresh added with 2 more rottens. Back to 67%. This thing ain't getting 75%+ as much as I want it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 We'll see what Peter Travers thinks of the film. He's pretty much raved about every Pixar film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 Well...Lorax is risky and this is not *rolls eyes* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoot Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Edit: I agree those animators would be good mentors for the up and coming but I think Pixar needs to change this push aside people who has shepherded a movie idea to its near completion for another director. I think a better idea would be to bring in smart people to help directors through their problems. For instance, I know Madagascar 3 wasn't some feat of great art but I think bringing Noah Baumbach to work through some story problems was a good thing for the story and the entire team working on that movie. Unfortunately, I think Chapman is as good as gone but more importantly other people at Pixar could look at the situation and look to exit the studio out of disgust to the way Chapman was treated or worst, they don't put their foot forward out of fear they'll be treated the same way (if things go wrong on their movie). I agree with all this wholeheartedly, hence my complaining about management. The talent there does not seem to be as nurtured as they were in the past (or as well as we thought they were). Like I keep saying, nothing against Mark Andrews, but this is and should be Chapman's baby... You're telling me Pixar couldn't find a supporting story person to help her out? In any case, I keep saying this is transition. The same 3-4 directors can't be doing all the movies all the time. Something's gotta give at some point, and they'll figure out how to best nurture talent if they want to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackO Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Brave is #2 on Fandango right now. ( Monday sales) That's impressive. Critics be damned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 As said before-its the same thing that happened after The Lion King, the next few Disney films did not get that great of reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Ok, that most recent review is pretty stupid, I won't deny it. Still, it'll all even out eventually. Edited June 19, 2012 by tribefan695 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 That's impressive. Critics be damned! I think it needs mentioning that this movie is still fresh at the moment. It's not like it's in Transformers territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 It is depressing seeing the reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Wow, this thing is really gonna stay in the 60's or so isn't it? #shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 It's pretty apparent this movie simply isn't as good as usual Pixar. No point hoping it somehow shoots all the way back into the 80s now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoot Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 It's pretty apparent this movie simply isn't as good as usual Pixar. No point hoping it somehow shoots all the way back into the 80s now. I think the frustrating thing (from what we've been reading and hearing anyway) is that it very well could have been as good as "usual" Pixar. They started off well again, but this time just couldn't tie it all together in the end as well as they usually do (again - based on reviews). If it beats Cars I'll be happy. That's wishful thinking at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochofles Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Interesting assessment from one of the rotten reviews: "This film has the veneer of feminism and a strong female protagonist, but it still reinforces a lot of patriarchal constructs. The resolution appears progressive on the surface, but it is only possible with several conditions that are ultimately very conservative. Brave is the equivalent of a man patting a woman on the head and saying, ‘Go and exercise your free-will sweetie, but just make sure you play by my rules. Isn’t self-determination cute!" Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 It didn't look like the males had a whole lot of real agency in the movie. Guess I'll have to watch for myself to see if it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Just got back from our screening and I really enjoyed it. There are some weird tonal inconsistencies that bug me, but other than that, I think it is a marvelous family film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ok, that most recent review is pretty stupid, I won't deny it. Still, it'll all even out eventually. Which one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
