Captain Craig

I'd wager the closest spy franchise that has any clout is the Tom Cruise Mission Impossible series. Even considering that I agree with you assessment "none have come close to toppling Bond", Bond is still top dog and shall remain that way for some time. Now, it'll be curious to see what life, if any Mission Impossible and a recast Ethan Hunt can do. Will audiences take to that as they did say Roger Moore. If that happens then I think it is fair to say MI is a strong second contender. Till then though MI is just a solid spy franchise. I'd like another Damon Bourne film. To me that is the distant top third spy franchise. I found it interesting that the third XxX entry brought Vin back as well as Ice Cube in an expanded role and established that the XxX Program was growing and has had more agents. That franchise will never financially beat Bond or MI. However, I'd like to see what that goes. A fourth film has been rumored. A third Kingsman could right the ship. That franchise has potential. Can Disney/Fox correct course though??

^^^ That's fine. We just have different expectation levels is all for success status.

A-What is a "new entry", that was part of my question. B-Is profit what Avatree meant? Very typically as this is a Box Office site, BO is what is compared. C-Truthfully Venom was successful but if one thinks Sony isn't interested to get extra legitamcy for Venom by making it MCU fringe noteworthy because of Venom BO, or profit, take you're fooling yourself. Note: that was stated.

MOST??? Venom (2018): $213m Dom ; $856m WW Black Panther(2017): $700m DOM ; $1.3b WW Captain Marvel(2019): $426m DOM ; $1.1b WW Those are really the only 2 "new entries", other entries are the 2 Avengers films. You surely don't mean those. It did better than Ant-Man & Wasp...worldwide but 1 film is not "MOST". The WW difference for Thor Ragnarok is a mere $3m and it blasted Venom in the vs Domestic category. You're off base. Look Venom did well but your statement is inaccurate.

Wow the social media back/forth on this movie is something to see. I've only spoken to one person who actually saw it and he really liked it by and large. He gave it 4.5/5 stars

Still alive!!!

^^^ I really liked Salt. Female led action franchise that really should've been.

I see XxX and Riddick myself of which I'd see future installments if/when they get off the ground. I'm very, very, very curious and excited about Bloodshot. I'm waiting on trailers myself.

Hulk underperformed no doubt. Flop it was not but we are likely dealing in semantics we aren't going to agree upon.

This statement feels vaguely familiar. Never been right in all the times I've heard it over the years but it keeps being said...like "we only have "x" years to save the planet". I suppose one day both will be true but not because of any correct prognosticating.

I've wanted a Black Widow movie since Phase 2, needless to say I'm excited for this. I'm keeping my expectations in check. Thinking that should the film do $200-$225m Dom it'll be a solid hit, like the Ant-Man films.

So this tops out around $450m Domestic?

Dora and the Raiders of the Temple at Crystal Skull Island. Now that is a movie!

My wife saw her first trailer for this over the weekend. She said, "Dora has her Learners Permit I see?" Yep, she is aged up a good 5yrs + over the cartoon. Then she saw Eugenio Derbez, whom we saw in the Overboard remake, and both felt he was great in that. I don't care what RT score says that film is a funny remake. Anyway she said, I'll see that at some point just for him. So at some point, probably over Winter Break(she is a school librarian) I may see this film.

Pad that lead for the Avatar re-release.

Haha, I'm the last post in this thread till my next post. I'm going to ask a question I know the most possible answer to so 14 replies saying the near certain answer isn't necessary. This is a question of sheer hypothetical in the other direction. Using the ole "blockbuster" film must make 2 or 2.5x its budget to be successful (defined various ways depending on a film it seems) where does this put MIB: I at this point? Budget: $110 WW to date: $247m Dom to date: $79m Poorly performing Domestic films have gotten sequels in recent memory with decent or great International receipts. Pacific Rim comes to mind right away. Men In Black International isn't doing poorly in the overall receipts tally. Bringing up Marketing costs is a red herring, we all know that is done in a different area and not a true factor to actually making/producing a blockbuster film. The studio handles that differently. Sony is hurting for solid franchises. MIB:I is their attempt to keep one of their few alive. Do they tweak the writing for another? Recast leads altogether and keep some ancillary cast for continuity? Let it lay fallow?

The way Toy Story 4 has blitzed pass Aladdin is amazing. Too much Disney this summer for some give/take amongst their own releases perhaps? Aladdin was looking good for $400m at one point but now TS4 & TLK are in the field.

I like the character, sure.

A pattern is emerging I think. Do not be known by just 3 letters. BKB JCS

Right now there is nothing but lip service for FF and X-Men(mutants). They know we know they have it but the Mavel Phase 4 is fully loaded up. I don't expect fully on FF/X-Men cameos or films until 2023/24. To keep talking it up like they are only a few years away is to give me deja vu about Avatar 2 coming out next year, then next year, then the next year.

This is my most anticipated film of the new announced lot as if it weren't before SDCC. IMO it is the new "GotG or Ant-Man" ala biggest chance to fail cause the property/character are comic niche. However, we all know how the other two turned out so...we shall see. Still waiting on an Ant-Man 3 by the way Marvel.

....also any Uwe Boll film.

Incorrect Both T3(rotm) & T4(salvation) are linear extensions of the saga. Gynesis is the only hard reset and an attempt at a reboot. Recall they even told us it was the first in its own trilogy.

If Regal gets a subscription going I'll look into that. Had Movie Pass for a year and for the first 6mo it was great. Then they began altering their business plan every few weeks. I cancelled it at the year mark.

$15.5m to go Also, did that tree trimmer get decapitated?