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Captain Marvel. The worst of the whole MCU, by far. Endgame. It ranks 3rd among Avengers film for me. Parasite. It is a good movie, but I do not think it is the masterpiece that many say. 8/10 for me. Knives out. A bit boring. I expected more.

Sure, but it still has influence in many people. Why? Who knows...

I guess Avatar will be re-released. 12 years gap and Cameron's ambition should be enough for it. And it does not need too much to outgross EG. I have doubts with Avatar sequels. I was convinced that it would not match the original success, but I do not have so clear now. It will be a really interesting run to follow. Anyway, I agree that excepting Avatar sequels, I do not see anything with that potential during next years. Marvel's next ending? Who knows, but it is hard to repeat what this first saga has done. I mean: how can you make a bigger film than EG? Right now, I can only imagine one scenario: a Marvel-DC crossover. But that is a chimera.

FYC

FYC The first of them, Once upon a time in America, is incredible, an absolute masterpiece. Its runtime is 4 hours, but I could be watching 40 hours... IMHO, at the same level than 2 first Godfather and in my top 5 ever.

I subscribe each word. I am shocked about how much info he is giving us about each film. @The Panda Congratulations in advance for your hard work. It is AMAZING. Thank you very much

April 25th-May 1st April 25th Star Trek: The motion picture: 7/10 Avengers (Infinity War): 8/10 The wind rises: 8/10 April 26th Avengers (Endgame): 7/10 Soccer days (Spanish film): 7/10 April 27th Beetlejuice: 6/10 April 29th Catch me if you can: 6/10 April 30th S.W.A.T: 3/10 May 1st Transformers 4 (Age of Extinction): 4/10 10 Cloverfield Lane: 7/10 And for the moment, since May 2nd: May 2nd Star Trek 2: The wrath of Khan: 7/10 Its a mad, mad, mad, mad world: 3/10 The grapes of wrath: 10/10 (beyond it is a masterpiece, an absolutely necessary film, even more in these days) May 3rd Fast & Furious 1: 7/10 May 4th Fast & Furious 2: 6/10 Beyond this, I am watching The West Wing, which I had not seen before (Season 2, Episode 5). For the moment, 8/10. A very good show, but talking about politics I still think Borgen (Danish show) is better.

Just PMed my list, although I do not know if I am on time. My list: 1. Casablanca (1942) 2. The Godfather (1972) 3. Once upon a time in America (1984) 4. The Godfather 2 (1974) 5. The grapes of wrath (1940) 6. To have and have not (1944) 7. The deer hunter (1978) 8. The dirty dozen (1967) 9. JFK (1991) 10. The great escape (1963) 11. L.A. Confidential (1997) 12. The secret in their eyes (2009) 13. To be or not to be (1942) 14. Ryan's daughter (1970) 15. Paths of glory (1957) 16. The Shawshank redemption (1994) 17. Casino (1995) 18. United 93 (2006) 19. Grave of the fireflies (1988) 20. Cold War (2018) 21. Goodfellas (1990) 22. The bridge on river Kwai (1957) 23. Ben-Hur (1959) 24. The Seachers (1956) 25. The sea inside (2004) 26. The Irishman (2019) 27. Das Boot (1981) 28. Apocalypse Now (1979) 29. Life of Brian (1979) 30. All the President's men (1976) 31. In the name of the father (1993) 32. The Hunt for Red October (1990) 33. Spartacus (1960) 34. Once upon a time in Hollywood (2019) 35. First Man (2018) 36. Hateful Eight (2015) 37. Gladiator (2000) 38. Singin' in the rain (1953) 39. Lawrence of Arabia (1962) 40. The Third Man (1949) 41. The social network (2010) 42. Spotlight (2015) 43. Saving private Ryan (1998) 44. City of God (2002) 45. The Pianist (2002) 46. Munich (2005) 47. The Wolf of Wall Street (2013) 48. Schindler's List (1993) 49. An education (2009) 50. Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)

I absolutely understand your point. I did not want to say we will be with lockdown until a vaccine is ready. That would imply a total collapse of the economy, more dangerous than the virus itself. But even if we come back to streets there will be social distancing for sure. People will be VERY cautious in their social relations. And that implies directly to cinemas. In terms of being pessimistic or not, I prefer to be realistic and what I am seeing and hearing here makes me think that we have a long way till the end of this crisis and back to our previous lifes. From my POV, too high optimism about something that is probable to not become real can take you to frustration and that would imply an even worse pessimism at the end. Btw, Mods, sorry for talking about virus here too. I have just realized this is the China Box Office thread.

I wish you are right...

I wish we could turn back as soon as possible, but I am pessimistic. I am reading opinions which say that, unless we have a vaccine, the social distancing could last until 2022. With that premise to think in turning back massively to cinemas or other crowded events soon seems a chimera. And since the virus will be here to stay forever you have to take into account an irrational factor: fear of being infected. And then add the huge economical crisis we will face, probably bigger than the 2008 collapse. I am afraid this will be a really slow process.

I am starting to think the same... I do not see cinemas opening here until, at very least, September or October. And even if they are opened, people will avoid crowded places for a long time.

Maybe people are starting to fear crowds (although Woman's Day concentrations were very crowded). But the contagion is spreading fast: 200 more cases and 8 deaths just in Madrid since yesterday.

Just hope it becomes controlled. Already said, but BO is the last of our concerns.

Love this. I do not have data right now, but I will confirm this as soon as posible with real numbers: SPAIN: Star Wars E.T. and after this, what @Steven said: Beauty & the Beast Jurassic Park The Lion King Titanic Avatar I will look for numbers before Star Wars

Never say never, but I think it has close to 0% chance. Pixar has 4 billion films, but all of them sequels with very well-known characters.

Pixar has made such incredible films that anything that is not superb is seen as something disappointing. Let's wait and see. I never trust the initial reactions.

IMHO, those hypothetical legs would not be so much for quality or because people take it as a non-event film, but because of competition, what will be the main factor of thw whole year in this market. China will protect their own movies even more than they use to do. As it has already been mentioned, we could see a weekend with 2 or 3 HLW films. And an upcoming weekend with 1 or 2 big local films, taking most of theaters, cutting any chance of legs. This remembers me to 2012, when TDKR and TASM were released the same weekend, with Expendables 3 coming next weekend. The 3 did around 300m Yuan, when all of them had better expectations.

Yes, ticket price in Spain was very low. If Germany avg was €0.5 and here it was €0.015, that means that the price in Germany was 33 times bigger than here. Today the ratio is about 1.30. Spanish economy did not recover from Civil War effects (1936-39) until 60s. And we still lived a dictatorship until 1975.

Sorry again. I read that in 1951, in October, the ER was fixed to 21.90 pesetas per dollar. Asuming 2.5 pesetas per ticket, Quo Vadis grossed 9.3 million pesetas. With the 21.90 pesetas ER mentioned, that amount equates to about $425k.

My bad. I read it wrong. https://www.ipcblog.es/la-evolucion-del-precio-del-cine-desde-1930/ According that link, the average ticket price during 50s was 2 or 3 pesetas (about 0.015€). The new releases cost about 12 pesetas and 17 pesetas in late 50s. As a curious data, women were paying half than men. Applying the average ticket price (0.015€), Quo Vadis grossed about €55,500. I do not dare to apply the 12 pesetas of new releases since films used to be shown during months or even years and I guess that openings were not even close as massive as now.

3.5 million admissions is a very respectable number (the number I have for Quo Vadis is 3,721,532 admissions). Of course, we have to measure that 3.5 million in 1951 is not the same than now. In 1968 (the earliest we have data), Spain sold more than 376 million admissions. Today we barely surpass 100 million. That amount of tickets is similar to Frozen 2 (3.5 million), taking a recent example. In terms of gross, and applying the average ticket price (€6.50), it would have grossed today €24.2m or $26.1m. In terms of market size, it equates to 450-500 million dollar in USA+Canada. Btw, I think Quo Vadis is a quite good film.

Sure, The Virus can affect everywhere, but Bond is essentially an European franchise, maybe, and proportionally, the biggest one. It does not need Asia so much to make big numbers as others.

I wish it could do it, but I see It really hard. I would be fine with 700-800

According jpbox-office.com, 7,340,755