zackzack Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Slightly underwhelming for Wolverine, though it's pretty much right where I've had it pegged all along. Actually this is a big opening considering the trailer has left me cold... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bapi Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Olympus Has Fallen, Now You See Me, This is The End, The Heat and now The Conjuring - it's always nice when smaller films are doing so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Elysium, Gravity, Transcendence, Jupiter Ascending, Interstellar and Tomorrowland all say hello and would like you not to dismiss them so early. studios need to learn not to splash down $190M budgets for original sci-fi movies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 IMO IM2 is borderline bad, while MoS is bad but there were hopes to a better film in the sequel until Batman was announced to have a vs. film with him. IM3 is the best of the Iron Man series and ASM albeit it's flawed, it's a great reboot and the best Spider-Man I've seen in the big screen. Actually I was frustrated that the filmmakers behind IM2 dropped the ball. IM2 has the best villain (Rourke is great in it), the best second fiddle villain in Hammer, the best suit-up scene (the race track attack), the best...OK you get the point. They waste it with a burger place meeting with Nick Fury..? The whole scene where RDJ trying to invent an element? Scarlet and her perfectly salooned hair? Hammer hawking his toys? Where they should focus on Whiplash and his conflict with Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Actually this is a big opening considering the trailer has left me cold... It's not a bad number, just too bad it couldn't get to those high numbers that were being thrown out there the past 7 days. Also, considering this was our best shot at one last big movie until November, well, it's all downhill from here. Too bad this last hill couldn't have been a little higher and little more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I like the tone of MoS, they got it right. But I think the story is unnecessarily complex for multiplex audience and too "scifi" to swallow (the whole Krypton thing, the genesis chamber etc). Superman drowning in skull, LOL, one kid was crying at a showing I was in. Another left with his parents: "Noo, I don't want to see this.." Skull with genoms and Genesis Chamber were :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted July 27, 2013 Founder / Operator Share Posted July 27, 2013 Would need to cross 200M... Why? It needs half that to be a success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexJoker Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Olympus Has Fallen, Now You See Me, This is The End, The Heat and now The Conjuring - it's always nice when smaller films are doing so well. Especially 3 out of the 5 are not comedies. Good to see R-Rated non-comedies doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Skull with genoms and Genesis Chamber were :rofl: Well, having said that, Cavill is great as Supe, the visual style is pretty impressive. They just need better story, dialogues. A more streamlined story. I think their approach to the myth is refreshing & any hardcore scifi fans would understand what the filmmakers trying to get at. But to GA, they want to see something more, ehm, down-to-Earth. Kinda difficult when Supe is an alien. and this is an origin story. Before you laugh, try telling it in a different way, more creatively. You will see it is a big challenge to write/visualize a difficult concept. How would you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Olympus Has Fallen, Now You See Me, This is The End, The Heat and now The Conjuring - it's always nice when smaller films are doing so well. OHF wasn't so small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 it looks like CONJURING will blow past $200M with insane legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 studios need to learn not to splash down $190M budgets for original sci-fi moviesUnless its directed by Nolan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 OHF wasn't so small. Nor NYSM with $70M budget. OHF has DIE HARD5-level budget without a big name (well, biggish) movie star like Bruce Willis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bapi Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Why? It needs half that to be a success. Well, studios spent 570M (official production budgets) on Oblivion, After Earth, RIPD and Pacific Rim and those movies won't even cross 300M together in North America. If Elysium would only make 100M I think it would be fair to say studios spent a lot of money on 'original' sci-fi movies and it didn't work. And yes I know RIPD is based on some comic book but I don't think it had a lot of fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bapi Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 OHF wasn't so small. 70M against 150M spent on RIPD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bapi Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Nor NYSM with $70M budget. OHF has DIE HARD5-level budget without a big name (well, biggish) movie star like Bruce Willis. Well, Louie would tell you it's very complicated to make 60-90M movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Well, studios spent 570M (official production budgets) on Oblivion, After Earth, RIPD and Pacific Rim and those movies won't even cross 300M together in North America. If Elysium would only make 100M I think it would be fair to say studios spent a lot of money on 'original' sci-fi movies and it didn't work. And yes I know RIPD is based on some comic book but I don't think it had a lot of fans. This is almost like somebody is saying: Don't waste your money on original ideas. It's very depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Well, having said that, Cavill is great as Supe, the visual style is pretty impressive. They just need better story, dialogues. A more streamlined story. I think their approach to the myth is refreshing & any hardcore scifi fans would understand what the filmmakers trying to get at. But to GA, they want to see something more, ehm, down-to-Earth. Kinda difficult when Supe is an alien. and this is an origin story. Before you laugh, try telling it in a different way, more creatively. You will see it is a big challenge to write/visualize a difficult concept. How would you do it? Cavill was great, period. Dialog was proposerously ponderous and pretentious. The story AND SFX needed to be steamlined. Too much was going on in every scene and the movie was so fuckin noisy and loud I went numb and tuned out in the last half and hour or so. Which is a shame cause I really felt for Clark. Edited July 27, 2013 by fishnets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bapi Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 This is almost like somebody is saying: Don't waste your money on original ideas. It's very depressing. Well, all those movies were very bad. Yes, I didn't like Pacififc Rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 James Wan is a talented guy but another haunted house thriller...? And how is this special? James Wan is the king of the copy&paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
