CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) So I thought I would make a thread where people could ask why a movie they love flopped, because there are some movies I want to know why they flopped.To start off:Emperors New GrooveAtlantis Treasure PlanetBig FishHaunted Mansion Edited September 23, 2013 by manny the mammoth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1stpierre Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 None of those movies mentioned above are ones that I'm particularly fond of, or haven't seen. So, I can't say why they flopped. A similar movie that flopped was The Island by Bay (a movie of his that was good) that opened in 2005. It's a really great movie for those that are into sci-fi. Yet, it flopped at the box office (not to the point of losing money, but it barely made anything) despite it being a good movie. With that movie in particular, looking back at the trailers, they weren't good at all in telling people what the movie was about. They unrememorable trailers. Perhaps the same problem happened with some of these movies, the trailers/marketing was poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 And note that you can also bring up movies that just flopped in America, or your homeland, even if it did good business elsewhere.So, like the Last Airbender or Tron Legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Last Airbender and Tron 2 didn't flopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) Last Airbender and Tron 2 didn't flopped.In America they didn't reach their budget, which is what I meant. Same with say, Cars 2. Or Pacific Rim. Edited September 23, 2013 by manny the mammoth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) In America they didn't reach their budget, which is what I meant. Same with say, Cars 2. Or Pacific Rim. So not a flop. Edited September 25, 2013 by Jack Nevada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 So not a flop.Yeah, I Guess I should say "underperformed". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Why amazing film like CONTACT flopped ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incarnadine Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 So I thought I would make a thread where people could ask why a movie they love flopped, because there are some movies I want to know why they flopped.To start off:Emperors New GrooveAtlantisTreasure PlanetBig FishHaunted Mansion For whatever reason, none of those movies appealed to me at all, except Big Fish. I love that movie, I almost always end up watching it when I see it's on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Why amazing film like CONTACT flopped ? It made almost 171 million worldwide on a budget of 90 million (100 million was from the U.S.), and it even had great legs. Not exactly something I'd call a flop. Edited September 25, 2013 by Boxofficefanatic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Mover and Shaker Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 None of those movies mentioned above are ones that I'm particularly fond of, or haven't seen. So, I can't say why they flopped. A similar movie that flopped was The Island by Bay (a movie of his that was good) that opened in 2005. It's a really great movie for those that are into sci-fi. Yet, it flopped at the box office (not to the point of losing money, but it barely made anything) despite it being a good movie. With that movie in particular, looking back at the trailers, they weren't good at all in telling people what the movie was about. They unrememorable trailers. Perhaps the same problem happened with some of these movies, the trailers/marketing was poor. Agreed on The Island. Pretty good, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Emperor's New Groove flopped since it was up against the Grinch and Disney barely marketed it, since they thought Atlantis would be a better bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 How on Earth did Treasure Planet flop so bad??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 http://mobile.dudamobile.com/site/jimhillmedia?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjimhillmedia.com%2Feditor_in_chief1%2Fb%2Fjim_hill%2Farchive%2F2003%2F01%2F07%2F227.aspxI didn't know Frozen was this far in development. Anyway I totally agree with this guy on Ice Age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webslinger Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 It feels like there are already 542 threads on this topic, but I'll bite. The Emperor's New Groove looked really strange at the time. Of course, it was well-received, had strong legs, and has grown a much wider following on home video; but when it was first released, it looked more crudely-designed and more slapstick than traditional Disney fare, which had a somewhat more dignified air to it (which was especially true in the '90s, when practically every non-Disney animated movie prior to The Rugrats Movie and The Prince of Egypt bombed in theatres). It also didn't help its case that it opened in the wake of a four-week run at #1 for The Grinch, which was also the highest-grossing release of the year. Atlantis was one of Disney's early-2000s attempts to go in an edgier, more male-oriented direction. The common assumption is that they saw the obscene amounts of money The Phantom Menace made at the box office and in merchandising, and figured that targeting boys in particular was the way to go. The thing they were forgetting, however, is that at least half of the Disney empire is built on princesses and "girly stuff," so they were shutting out a decent portion of the potential kid audience by making a movie aimed so squarely at one gender. Even their movies with princesses in the leading roles still had plenty of male characters to advertise; that wasn't the case with the ladies in Atlantis, which had a love interest, a token woman on the expedition team, and nothing else. The cherry on top was that it opened a month after a little movie called Shrek, which was bringing in family audiences left and right en route to being the biggest hit of the summer. Treasure Planet has a very similar explanation to Atlantis. It was for the boys only. Worse yet, it opened at the same time that the second Harry Potter movie was getting most of the kid business, and The Santa Clause 2 was a bigger hit than Disney had expected it would be. So as the last one to open, Treasure Planet was the odd one out. It also didn't do a whole lot to sell its story over its visuals. Big Fish didn't really flop; it just wasn't a big hit (in fact, the same applies at least somewhat to Atlantis and Emperor's New Groove after international numbers are factored in). The trouble was that it was a tough movie to sell in two minutes or less. The Haunted Mansion fell into similar territory as Big Fish as far as the performance goes. I would give a detailed analysis as to why it didn't make more money, but most of that analysis can be summed up in just one sentence: it looked like shit (and it was). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 another movie that flopped horrendously. Titan AE. Anyone remember this movie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webslinger Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 another movie that flopped horrendously. Titan AE. Anyone remember this movie? Yup. I saw it twice in the theatre and owned the VHS. The big problem with Titan A.E. was that it never seemed like Fox really made up their minds as to whether to sell it to kids or to teenage/adult sci-fi nerds. As a result, very few of either demographic showed up, but those who did were generally quite pleased with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Thanks for the analysis Webslinger. :)Can you explain to me why Hercules, while still profitable, didn't cross 100 mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChD Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Thanks for the analysis Webslinger. :)Can you explain to me why Hercules, while still profitable, didn't cross 100 mil? I'd say people got tired of it. I mean, the new Hercules that's going to come out next year, and the new Tarzan, are marked flops from now. People got tired of seeing them everywhere - TV movies, animations and now in theaters (and not only once, but 3 or 4 movies). People get tired of the same shit... It's a wonder it managed to make that much in 97 (Which, adjusted comes to a decent sum). So, until the new Tarzan and Hercules are masterpieces, they are guaranteed flops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
