Wicked: Part 1 | November 22, 2024 | Jon M Chu to direct | Ariana Grande is Galinda. Cynthia Erivo is Elphaba

[Grebacio]

9 minutes ago, CJohn said:

Gladiator isn't on the 15?

Only overseas for now

[Eric Deetz]

 

 

[Krissykins]

They need to start advertising that it’s a part 1 soon. 
 

Cynthia and Ariana looked incredible at the Olympics. 

[Mojoguy]

6 hours ago, Krissykins said:

They need to start advertising that it’s a part 1 soon. 
 

Cynthia and Ariana looked incredible at the Olympics. 

If they are smart, they won't advertise it as a part 1.

 

Dune and IT both didn't either.

[Krissykins]

13 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

If they are smart, they won't advertise it as a part 1.

 

Dune and IT both didn't either.

We all knew IT had the grown ups story though. 
 

I just wonder if audiences will be happy with half the story. We’ll see. 

[filmlover]

10 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

We all knew IT had the grown ups story though. 
 

I just wonder if audiences will be happy with half the story. We’ll see. 

FWIW it was reported that they were adapting as much from the Oz books as they were from the musical, so I'm guessing this is pretty much a standalone movie but will end with enough of a sequel tease to hint more is coming without feeling incomplete.

[vale9001]

I'm starting to feel this is gonna be the next Phantom of the opera. I don't see any hype or interest outside of the theater geeks target 

Edited July 27 by vale9001

[Krissykins]

13 minutes ago, filmlover said:

FWIW it was reported that they were adapting as much from the Oz books as they were from the musical, so I'm guessing this is pretty much a standalone movie but will end with enough of a sequel tease to hint more is coming without feeling incomplete.

Oh I didn’t know that, I haven’t seen the musical, so I just assumed this was the first half of that. Glad I’m wrong  

[ChipDerby]

24 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

I'm starting to feel this is gonna be the next Phantom of the opera. I don't see any hype or interest outside of the theater geeks target 

 

I'm not gonna burst your bubble but prepare to be surprised

[vale9001]

20 minutes ago, ChipDerby said:

 

I'm not gonna burst your bubble but prepare to be surprised

My bubble is exactly Broadway geeks. And the problem Is i see interest only there.  Tell me what instead makes you think there is other people cares about this. I'm curious to know what makes your perception different.

The new Olympic trailer made like only just 100k views in YouTube in 24 hours.

Edited July 27 by vale9001

[DAJK]

I think this will do better than a lot of the doom and gloom I’ve seen about it on social media. But I think some of the theater geeks I know irl who say this “will be bigger than Barbie” are equally delulu.

 

I think Gladiator will win this fight. But Wicked will probably still do decent numbers. I’m thinking around 50/175 run, no idea how strong it is OS, but Oz never really has been.

[filmlover]

The Wizard of Oz seems like a similar IP to Willy Wonka where it is its own money-making empire at this point, largely thanks to one iconic movie that everyone watched growing up (and that children continue to discover to this day). The Broadway musical has been such an enduring smash because it banked on people's familiarity with the property (do the ultimate fates of the two witches really count as a spoiler when movie audiences have known for 85 years exactly where they end up?), and of course, like Wonka, there was a fairly recent big-budget VFX-driven update on the IP (2005's Charlie & the Chocolate Factory/2013's Oz the Great & Powerful) that proved its box office value.

 

This and Gladiator II are actually reminding me not of Barbenheimer but of Happy Feet/Casino Royale on the weekend before Thanksgiving in 2006. Two tentpoles aimed at completely different audiences on paper that also have enough potential to make plenty of money on their own.

Edited July 27 by filmlover

[vale9001]

I don't think Oz world is so beloved as movie- series universe. That movie with James Franco wasn't that big despite the 3D boom era and they tried several tv series about it and they were flops too.

 

Also musical geeks knowx about the other musical about Oz, The Wiz...it was made a movie version by a-list director Sydney Lumet with even Michael Jackson and Diana Ross in the cast and it was a flop too.

 

So i don't see your positivity about the fact americans love this universe like it's tolkien. It needs other appealing things imo.

Edited July 27 by vale9001

[ZeroHour]

This seems like it’s going to do fine enough. Not some big breakout, especially with Moana on its heels, but also probably not any kind of big flop either. I know it’s no fun to imagine something doing just ok though lol. 

[poweranimals]

I will give them credit on one thing. The visuals look fantastic.

Edited July 27 by poweranimals

[vale9001]

On 7/27/2024 at 7:24 PM, ZeroHour said:

This seems like it’s going to do fine enough. Not some big breakout, especially with Moana on its heels, but also probably not any kind of big flop either. I know it’s no fun to imagine something doing just ok though lol. 

 

 

i didn't mean it's gonna be a disastrous flop. With the phantom of the opera comparison i meant like that (despite being the biggest musical theatre of all time) i don't see this being that huge multi target event probably. But still with all the christmas season 150M are reachable I guess. As someone already noted here the problems seems more the OS appeal outside of some anglophone country and some asian country that love musicals (like japan). 

Edited July 28 by vale9001

[ZeroHour]

1 hour ago, vale9001 said:

 

 

i didn't mean it's gonna be a disastrous flop. With the phantom of the opera comparison i meant like that (despite being the biggest musical theatre of all time) i don't see this being that huge multi target event probably. But still with all the christmas season 150M are reachable I guess. As someone already noted here the problems seems more the OS appeal outside of some anglophone country and some asian country that love musicals (like japan). 

I wasn’t trying to single you out. Just felt like the current mood of the thread. They clearly tried to position this to steal away Disney adults over the Thanksgiving corridor at a time when Disney is struggling in animation. That plan went to crap when Disney pulled Moana 2 out of their asses. 

[dudalb]

My problem is still this being a two parter. That is streching the stage show very, very thin.

But glad they are keeping the....

Spoiler

whole revisioist slant particualry the Galinda, who will become the good witch is actually a lying sneaking conniving hypocritical little bitch.

 

[Box Office Hit]

 

[dudalb]

On 7/27/2024 at 8:36 AM, Krissykins said:

We all knew IT had the grown ups story though. 
 

I just wonder if audiences will be happy with half the story. We’ll see. 

If the film is not billed as being the first part of the story, they will.

Bait and Switch does not work. 

And Dune you sort of got a complete story . I dont think you can pull that off with wicked.

Marketing a movie as something it is not never works.

I really question the wisdom of making this a two parter.