xSabrinax Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Never underestimate China ^^ I don't underestimate China. I underestimate Dragons 2 in China. After so much disappointment everywhere it was released. I can't see anything good coming from the other countries. In other words, I've lost hope. I can't even see 500WW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupek Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 No market is as disappointing as the domestic tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Right, just about every market increased from the first - just not as much as hoped.It opened comparatively better in most OS markets than domestically, but too many markets seem to have been frontloaded. It was probably the same issue as domestic, just to a lesser degree - it was maybe a little too serious to fully break out among family audiences (not to mention the World Cup in Latin America, and opening too close to TF4 in a lot of places).It just didn't underperform/disappoint to as much of a degree OS as it did domestically. Let's remember that the first one only made $277M OS; in comparison Kung Fu Panda 2, which was the same kind of disappointment domestically but made $500M OS, was coming off of an original which already made $416M OS (without having 3D).The most optimistic pre-release OS predictions for HTTYD2 would have required it to nearly double the original; if Despicable Me 2 hadn't done that last year, I wonder if early OS predictions for this would have been as high. (And no, I'm not trying to engage in "it was never going to do as well as people thought it would" revisionist history. I'm seriously asking, if not for DM2, would the OS predictions for HTTYD2 have been lower?) Edited July 29, 2014 by TServo2049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupek Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Maybe some of us were very optimistic. I wanted $300m USA - $500m rest of the world (I wanted this to surpass Monsters University). But yes, HTTYD is not a very strong franchise yet, or at least not as some others. Despicable Me was kind of unique plus funny enough to GA, and it almost doubled its numbers WW. (I suppose Rio 2 couldn't because it was more like a very generic animal-centric comedy which has been made countless times before). I think that was the problem a lot of us didn't want to see, and this 4 and a half year lapse didn't certainly help too much in most of markets. Besides: I'm seriously asking, if not for DM2, would the OS predictions for HTTYD2 have been lower?) Yes, some people raised the numbers after that. But the more reasonable people warned us (and I thought they were right) that the Minions were more popular and more appealing than anything from HTTYD2. And its true. Who knows. Maybe this is doing strong numbers for the kinds of animation it is. Maybe this is the scope its box office numbers can be. World Cup? Very competitive summer? I don't know, maybe those were factors of why this couldn't gross more, or maybe they weren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Germany,Austria,South korea next week Ash keep your fingers crossed no way can our Dragon film lose by 200M to Mal. Come on Toothlesss!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK007 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I know this could be a moot point, but anyone think it would have done better if it was not titled "How to Train Your Dragon 2"? The first didn't have that many admissions, so the sequel could have grabbed people who never saw the first. Maybe like "How to Raise Your Dragon" or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpo Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 That is ridiculous. Seriously a movie will make $500M+ WW, it will make tons of $ on DVD, BR, VOD, toys, games, TV show etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hernan Gonzalez Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupek Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Amazing run in Chile!! HTTYD 2 can beat Frozen to become 2014 champions and even enter the All-Time Top Ten!!! Chile: All Time Top 20 (Admissions): 2014 Top Ten - Chile 1 Avatar 1660076 1 Frozen 951670 2 Ice Age 4 1464256 2 Rio 2 936421 3 Titanic 1426749 3 HTTYD 2 901614 4 Toy Story 3 1422389 4 Trans4mers 790949 5 Ice Age 3 1421722 5 Maleficent 653381 6 The Avengers 1397320 6 TFIOS 628632 7 Monters University 1253746 7 DoFP 509339 8 Shrek 2 1118133 8 DotPotA 459132 9 Iron Man 3 1097539 9 TASM 2 454345 10 Shrek 4 1021646 10 Noah 405984 11 Sexo Con Amor (*) 985093 12 Frozen 951670 13 Harry Potter 7 (Part 2) 946317 14 Rio 2 936421 15 Rio 931102 16 The Conjuring 909297 17 HTTYD 2 901614 18 LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring 880437 19 Star Wars, Episode 1 873141 20 Star Wars, Episode 3 863195 Look how Rio 2 barely increased from the first Rio. HTTYD2 on the other hand... Also, no Despicable Me 2 in the top 20? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Amazing run in Chile!! HTTYD 2 can beat Frozen to become 2014 champions and even enter the All-Time Top Ten!!! Chile: All Time Top 20 (Admissions): 2014 Top Ten - Chile 1 Avatar 1660076 1 Frozen 951670 2 Ice Age 4 1464256 2 Rio 2 936421 3 Titanic 1426749 3 HTTYD 2 901614 4 Toy Story 3 1422389 4 Trans4mers 790949 5 Ice Age 3 1421722 5 Maleficent 653381 6 The Avengers 1397320 6 TFIOS 628632 7 Monters University 1253746 7 DoFP 509339 8 Shrek 2 1118133 8 DotPotA 459132 9 Iron Man 3 1097539 9 TASM 2 454345 10 Shrek 4 1021646 10 Noah 405984 11 Sexo Con Amor (*) 985093 12 Frozen 951670 13 Harry Potter 7 (Part 2) 946317 14 Rio 2 936421 15 Rio 931102 16 The Conjuring 909297 17 HTTYD 2 901614 18 LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring 880437 19 Star Wars, Episode 1 873141 20 Star Wars, Episode 3 863195 It's great how animated films in general seem to be really big in Chile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 That poster looks really bad. It's like a second rate Chinese company tried to make a sequel to Dragon. LOL, you are right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hernan Gonzalez Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 It's great how animated films in general seem to be really big in Chile.People all over Latin America love animated movies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rthmessiah Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 People all over Latin America love animated movies They do & Superheros 2014 top 10 LatAm/EU 1-Malef WOWS 2-Rio2 Malef 3-DOFP DOFP 4-CATWS Rio2 5-TASM TASM 6-AOE AOE 7- Noah Lego 8-FRZ Noah 9-HTTYD2 CATWS 10-FIOS HTTYD2 2012-2014 top 10 LatAm/EU 1-TA SKyF 2-IACD AUJ 3-IM3 DOS 4-DM2 IACD 5-Malef FRZ 6-T:DB2 T:DB2 7-MU DM2 8-Rio2 TA 9-Mad3 TDKR 10-FF6 Mad3 Anim LatAm 51%, EU 35% 2012-2014 top 10 Admits not much change from $ LatAm 1-TA 2-IACD 3-DM2 4-IM3 5-Malef 6-T:DB2 7-MU 8-FF6 9-Rio2 10-Mad3 anim 48% 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSabrinax Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Based on this poster, The name of the film in China also slightly different from HTTYD. What is write in there? What is the title? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 What is write in there? What is the title?Master Dragonrider or something 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxx93 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 That title is actually kinda cool. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpo Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yeah, it's actually more accurate for this movie then just How to Train Your Dragon 2, because nobody was training their dragons in this movie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenUnicorn Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Master Dragonrider or something I actually love that title way more than HTTYD2. Especially since, as said above, no one's training their dragons in this movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK007 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 HTTYD2 is a dumb title. I think the animated studios need to call their sequels something more original than "2" and "3". Shrek the Third/Forever After and even Dawn of the Dinosaurs/Continental Drift are better than "2". I know it doesn't affect BO much but still I like it when they have subtitles or are entirely different a la Batman Begins/Dark Knight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSabrinax Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 HTTYD2 is a dumb title. I think the animated studios need to call their sequels something more original than "2" and "3". Shrek the Third/Forever After and even Dawn of the Dinosaurs/Continental Drift are better than "2". I know it doesn't affect BO much but still I like it when they have subtitles or are entirely different a la Batman Begins/Dark Knight. HTTYD is a very childish title. Make people judge the film before watching it. The sequel of "How to Train Your Dragon" in the book series has a different title: "How to be a Pirate". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
