Thrylos 7 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 delaying TASM 3 to either fall 2016 or summer 2017 might not be a bad idea as wellNot making it at all is an even better one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Everybody just cool out....COOL OUT!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 TDK was the first sequel, a proper comp is TDKR. It dropped 61.4% compared to SM3's 61.5% It also had zero competition in its second week. However, it stabalized in its 3rd and 4th weekends where SM3 didn't. Part of that was because of Shrek 3 and Pirates 3. I'm not saying it missed out on $50-60m or anything, but a fair guess would be $15-20m easy. Yep, maybe $350-355m or so without those movies. But it definitely doomed its own fate. It had enough time and easy competition those first two weeks to rack up some crazy money and be a lock for $400m no matter what came out 3-4 weeks later. Really? I read what you said. $64m in weekday money vs. $31m in weekday money. If you don't understand how that affects the second weekend demand, then I'm not sure what to say other than "whatever dude." Because, you quoted the first line from above while ignoring what I said below about it missing out on maybe $15-20m. Then you turn around and reply to someone else saying it might have made $350-355m without the competition(which is 336 + 15)! I know the legs on that one were fucking terrible, but huge $100m openers will hurt anything, two in successive weeks are pretty brutal for any movie regardless of WOM. Would Avengers have made it to a 3 multi if there were 2 other movies that opened in May to more than $100m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) Everybody just cool out....COOL OUT!!! WRONG! have you done your research???? do you know math... WTF! Edited May 3, 2014 by a2k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Where's this Spider-Man 3 argument going, by the way? I thought maybe it was in relation to ASM2's possible legs, but Iron Man is the only summer opener in recent memory that didn't implode in the face of competition. IM3 barely held better than SM3 in the end, and IM2 would have been right in the same territory if the Memorial Day openers in 2010 weren't the pits. Given how things look this year, I actually don't think there's a chance ASM2 gets a 2.4 multiplier. I was only saying that SM3 had two huge competitors open in its wake and they made already bad legs even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Because, you quoted the first line from above while ignoring what I said below about it missing out on maybe $15-20m. Then you turn around and reply to someone else saying it might have made $350-355m without the competition(which is 336 + 15)! I know the legs on that one were fucking terrible, but huge $100m openers will hurt anything, two in successive weeks are pretty brutal for any movie regardless of WOM. Would Avengers have made it to a 3 multi if there were 2 other movies that opened in May to more than $100m? Did you give a report for your theater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Because, you quoted the first line from above while ignoring what I said below about it missing out on maybe $15-20m. Then you turn around and reply to someone else saying it might have made $350-355m without the competition(which is 336 + 15)! I know the legs on that one were fucking terrible, but huge $100m openers will hurt anything, two in successive weeks are pretty brutal for any movie regardless of WOM. Would Avengers have made it to a 3 multi if there were 2 other movies that opened in May to more than $100m? You said I hadn't read anything you wrote. I chose to single out the idiotic comparison of SM3/TDKR weekend drops given the drastic difference in weekday money between the two. I didn't disagree with the rest of your post and I did read it. I'm not good at double quoting, so I left out the rest of your post and didn't respond to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 You said I hadn't read anything you wrote. I chose to single out the idiotic comparison of SM3/TDKR weekend drops given the drastic difference in weekday money between the two. I didn't disagree with the rest of your post and I did read it. I'm not good at double quoting, so I left out the rest of your post and didn't respond to it. HA! You were the one comparing TDK and SM3 which is the same damn thing, lol. I just moved it to TDKR because they are both second sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Did you give a report for your theater? Nah, I had too much shit going on and didn't have time. I'll see if I have more time tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggestgeekever Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) The smaller opening could help it compared to movies like IM3. Going to be very interesting to see how it holds up with Godzilla/X-Men targeting the same demographic. Also curious to see how the screen count will be affected. I'm not optimistic. 55+% drops for these superhero films are pretty much a given; Thor 2 dropped 57% even when the major opener it faced couldn't possibly target a different demo. It'll be two more 50% drops after that, and the competition in the two weeks post Memorial Day is also strong, stronger than last year. WOM also seems even more mixed than it was for IM3 or Thor 2. Edited May 3, 2014 by Biggestgeekever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) HA! You were the one comparing TDK and SM3 which is the same damn thing, lol. I just moved it to TDKR because they are both second sequels. I compared it to TDK because that movie had gigantic weekdays and STILL dropped sub-53%. Edited May 3, 2014 by redfirebird2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I am kind of chuckling reading all of these complaints about the movie. I feel like I want you to defend it because I enjoyed it so much more than you guys but at the same time I'm loving this because this is how I felt about the first one. So this is KARMA. FUCK YOU SONY for such a shit first movie. Your sins will be atoned for with this movie. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 55%+ drop seems almost inevitable for next weekend. Memorial weekend drop should be better though (even with DOFP opening). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I am kind of chuckling reading all of these complaints about the movie. I feel like I want you to defend it because I enjoyed it so much more than you guys but at the same time I'm loving this because this is how I felt about the first one. So this is KARMA. FUCK YOU SONY for such a shit first movie. Your sins will be atoned for with this movie. WTF...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I am kind of chuckling reading all of these complaints about the movie. I feel like I want you to defend it because I enjoyed it so much more than you guys but at the same time I'm loving this because this is how I felt about the first one. So this is KARMA. FUCK YOU SONY for such a shit first movie. Your sins will be atoned for with this movie. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) Still don't understand the hatred for ASM1. Was there a lot of redundancy? Yeah. But other than it was a perfectly average movie. Nothing offensive about it. Baumer's rants are pretty damn funny though, I have to admit. Edited May 3, 2014 by redfirebird2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Going to see ASM2 later today with my cousins...but for now I will watch Cloverfield, the best monster movie of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Nah, I had too much shit going on and didn't have time. I'll see if I have more time tonight. Thanks Rallax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulder Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Going to see ASM2 later today with my cousins...but for now I will watch Cloverfield, the best monster movie of all time. D: BETRAYER! ((Everyone knows Gojira is the best one.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTF Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I am kind of chuckling reading all of these complaints about the movie. I feel like I want you to defend it because I enjoyed it so much more than you guys but at the same time I'm loving this because this is how I felt about the first one. So this is KARMA. FUCK YOU SONY for such a shit first movie. Your sins will be atoned for with this movie.lol man I think you have some crazy view of TASM floating around in your head that keeps getting worse over time and now it's like turned into The Happening or something. TASM is fine and not that terrible at all In regards to paying for past mistakes...I don't think Spider-man has fully recovered from SM3's hate from fans yet. TASM had definite mixed wom, but SM3 hate seems way more harsh still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
