Weekend Thread | Estimates SS 43.7m, SP 33.6m, PD 21.5, JCIJB 13.6m, BM 11.45m, SLOP 8.8m, STD 6.8m, FFJ 6.58m

[Dementeleus]

2 minutes ago, GiantCALBears said:

I get the counter argument, the 3 DCEU films have made a boatload OW & that's great! But if the goal was to compete with Disney/Marvel then they are failing miserably by what is happening after OWs. They are setting up for diminishing returns in future installments when we know costs generally increase/margins do not as you go deeper in franchises. 

 

Yes, exactly. I don't know why it's so hard to acknowledge that, on the one hand, WB/DC is struggling with their CU because each film has to essentially re-succeed, which doesn't bode well for sequels or big-team ups... or on the other hand, that their marketing team (and inherent interest in the characters) means each of these movies is still successful in their own right. Not successful as they could have been, of course, but it's not like they're hemorrhaging money.

[RichWS]

Just now, Ethan Hunt said:

I mean at least it has Kat Dennings occasionally saying something funny

 

Does she? And I really like her.

[MrPink]

4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

The circumstances couldn't possibly be that those one with bad holds just aren't as well liked? I mean I love several of the X-men movies, but I'll admit that they've always had a hard time getting good WOM from the GA. Even when they're great films, they seem to just attract their own fanbase and not many else. So yeah, you could probably say DOFP just had mediocre WOM among the casual GA. Fantastic WOM form the core fans, but that's different. 

 

Doesn't mean WOM is bad, just could mean there was always a large population that was never going to be interested. For reason such as, takes too much to catch up. Or I don't like superhero films. Or I don't have time to see this movie but I've heard good things about it. But the majority of those who saw it could have liked it quite a bit. 

 

At some point, I think all superhero films are gonna fall into this pattern with varying ranges. 

Edited August 12, 2016 by MrPink

[UrosepsisFace]

5 minutes ago, GiantCALBears said:

I get the counter argument, the 3 DCEU films have made a boatload OW & that's great! But if the goal was to compete with Disney/Marvel then they are failing miserably by what is happening after OWs. They are setting up for diminishing returns in future installments when we know costs generally increase/margins do not as you go deeper in franchises. 

 

Three movies and three records shows diminishing returns in the form of breaking records? By now, everybody should hate Snyder. Look at the Youtube views for his next DCEU film. The trailers on WB and MovieClips on Youtube exceed 40m+ with a combined 500k likes vs 20k dislikes. 

 

Also, what's wrong with the goal of just making a movie that both people like and makes money? Do you agree that people actually do like these films? Do you agree that they make money? Also, in comparison, every studio would love to have this franchise. If WB were to say, hey, we'll trade the DCEU, but you have to allow them to run the same way as they are now and no changes, what studio would say hell no?

Edited August 12, 2016 by UrosepsisFace

[MovieMan89]

1 minute ago, Ethan Hunt said:

I mean at least it has Kat Dennings occasionally saying something funny

It has one of the best scenes in the entire MCU with that finale fight. That alone redeems it from being a total waste. 

[Rman823]

2 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

I mean at least it has Kat Dennings occasionally saying something funny

Her not coming back for Ragnarok is one of the reasons I'm excited for it. Same goes with Portman.

[RichWS]

Just now, MovieMan89 said:

It has one of the best scenes in the entire MCU with that finale fight. That alone redeems it from being a total waste. 

 

NO IDEA what you're referring to. 

[WrathOfHan]

I can't remember, does Thor actually fight Malekith in that portal scene? 

[Ethan Hunt]

1 minute ago, RichWS said:

 

Does she? And I really like her.

Well the movie feels bareable when she's on screen

[CJohn]

I hope Tele Jr becomes a big fan of Agents of SHIELD. He will go as THE HIVE to Halloween parties. 

[Rman823]

Just now, WrathOfHan said:

I can't remember, does Thor actually fight Malekith in that portal scene? 

Same here. Although I only watch it when I'm having an MCU marathon. The rest I can watch on their own. 

[Maxmoser3]

13 million OD, $30-$34 million could happen. 

[MovieMan89]

Just now, RichWS said:

 

NO IDEA what you're referring to. 

The awesome portal fight with Malekith of course. 

[RichWS]

Just now, Ethan Hunt said:

Well the movie feels bareable when she's on screen

 

Sure?

[Ethan Hunt]

1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:

I can't remember, does Thor actually fight Malekith in that portal scene? 

Only in the loosest sense of the term

[RichWS]

Just now, CJohn said:

I hope Tele Jr becomes a big fan of Agents of SHIELD. He will go as THE HIVE to Halloween parties. 

 

I don't know what that means but I like it. 

[CoolioD1]

6 minutes ago, MrPink said:

We're so close to rankings...

might as well kick it off. my top five lumets

 

1. 12 angry men

2. fail safe

3. dog day afternoon

4. before the devil knows you're dead

5. Q&A

 

come at me serpico fanboys

[Rman823]

Just now, CJohn said:

I hope Tele Jr becomes a big fan of Agents of SHIELD. He will go as THE HIVE to Halloween parties. 

I'm actually pumped for Ghost Rider and fugitive Daisy this season. 

[Ethan Hunt]

The acting in The Dark World is bad. Portman hilariously so

[RichWS]

1 minute ago, CoolioD1 said:

might as well kick it off. my top five lumets

 

1. 12 angry men

2. fail safe

3. dog day afternoon

4. before the devil knows you're dead

5. Q&A

 

come at me serpico fanboys

 

 

You are gonna deny a whole nation of NETWORK fans?