Liiviig 1998 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: Anyone ever stop to think maybe Zegler just had a brain fart for the word she was looking for with the “stalker” thing? She goes on to elaborate their relationship dynamic is weird, and she’s 100% right. He shows up to kiss and save her at the end and then they are literally in love. It’s weird af. That’s likely what she was trying to get across, and maybe chose the wrong word for what she meant with “stalker”. It’s really not a big deal, geez. Also wouldn’t be shocked if Disney deliberately wanted someone who didn’t love the original if they’re drastically reimagining. It’s not like Ariel, where people today still love the OG character, and she was praised for her independence at the time (though I think OG Ariel is a problematic character but that’s another story). I agree the relationship is weird and the kiss at the end and they just in love is cringe but it has absolutely zero colleration with stalking . Alot of early romance stories had that fall in love instant trope . Even highschool and pre teen movies today still have that trope and oh boy some of those movies today are more guilty of having stalker vibes than 1937 snow white. Stalker comment is just dumb and I can say anyone being reasonably being offended by it but ofcorse not to the extent of calling her the devil or sending her hateful messages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickvD Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 A lot of these issues with the original fairytale or the 1937 adaptation could be solved by writing the screenplay in such a way that Snow White and the Prince develop a relationship before the Queen cuts in and forces her to flee into the forest. Instead they turn her into a #girlboss because she don’t need no man. This movie shouldn’t be made. There are some things that should remain sacred and Disney’s Snow White is one of those things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipDerby Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, PatrickvD said: A lot of these issues with the original fairytale or the 1937 adaptation could be solved by writing the screenplay in such a way that Snow White and the Prince develop a relationship before the Queen cuts in and forces her to flee into the forest. Instead they turn her into a #girlboss because she don’t need no man. This movie shouldn’t be made. There are some things that should remain sacred and Disney’s Snow White is one of those things. Oh have you seen the movie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, PatrickvD said: A lot of these issues with the original fairytale or the 1937 adaptation could be solved by writing the screenplay in such a way that Snow White and the Prince develop a relationship before the Queen cuts in and forces her to flee into the forest. Instead they turn her into a #girlboss because she don’t need no man. This movie shouldn’t be made. There are some things that should remain sacred and Disney’s Snow White is one of those things. Greta Gerwig is one of the writers so the script should should be good. But I'm expecting Snow to make a passionate feminist speech that will make women weep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) This is a hard one to talk about because there obviously are a lot of bad-faith grifters(especially on youtube, I call them 'the beirdos') seizing on the 'stalker' comments(among some other recent things she said about the original movie) and blowing it way out of proportion(like they do for everything) for hate-clicks/ad revenues, but I do think it kinda speaks to a trend in very recent years that's starting to get under more people's skin where popular classic stories that people have grown up with and loved for decades are now deemed 'problematic' or no good because they no longer perfectly align with post-2015 academia/social norms. I haven't seen Snow White since I was like 8 years old(I'm 33 now) so I don't remember everything about it, but there was a certain Amazon show recently where the producers and some of the cast were constantly throwing indirect shade at the source material in every other interview, sometimes even in an arrogant condescending tone. I understand this is probably one of the more extreme examples, but I don't think you need to be a MAGA chud or youtube grifter to roll your eyes at some of the comments coming out of Hollywood or the page 1 rewrites they do(some of which are starting to feel like cliched tropes) regarding older classic stories and slapping the original's name on top of it. I don't know, sometimes I think the world has gone full stupid and people are just making up controversies to bitch about online when none are really there(and if there are, usually blown way out of proportion for that person's target audience). Edited August 16, 2023 by Ozymandias 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 14 hours ago, wildphantom said: “Outdated and clumsy in many ways” never thought I’d hear the day when anybody could honestly say that about one of the greatest films ever made. SNow White, 1937, was a hugely important film..first feature length animated film and the first really big sucess for Technicolor; but it just does not stand up as a film as well as some others from the period. 'Pinnoichio" which was Disney's next feature length animated film, is much better.Despite it huge sucess, Disney made some rookie mistakes on Snow white. To be expected, since no one had ever done anything like that before. And, btw, I am one of the handful of people on this site who LOVE Golden age cinema. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThomas Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 57 minutes ago, ChipDerby said: Oh have you seen the movie? You don't have to, Disney's track record and current info are more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 57 minutes ago, ChipDerby said: Oh have you seen the movie? I don;t like to think how many people talk about classic movies in these forums without having actually seen them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, TomThomas said: You don't have to, Disney's track record and current info are more than enough. Wrong., If you are going to pontificate about a movie, you should have actually have seen the damn thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 And I still don't get the hatred for Ziegler. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThomas Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, dudalb said: Wrong., If you are going to pontificate about a movie, you should have actually have seen the damn thing. Yes, in all other cases, but with Disney if something smells very bad, it's most certainly gonna be bad. You don't have to taste crap every time to know it's crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, TomThomas said: Yes, in all other cases, but with Disney if something smells very bad, it's most certainly gonna be bad. You don't have to taste crap every time to know it's crap. I have not liked ANY of the live action reamkes of classic animated films, and this one does not look that good,but I think the hatred for Zegler is just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipDerby Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Why do people keep saying "this doesn't look good". Nothing has even been released for it! Like, am I going crazy??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringedmortality Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Webb's visuals on Amazing Spider-Man 2 were solid, I just hope he shot this in 35mm as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, ChipDerby said: Why do people keep saying "this doesn't look good". Nothing has even been released for it! Like, am I going crazy??? That photo of the "Dwarves" sent up a lot of red flags. The basic design was just plain bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipDerby Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, dudalb said: That photo of the "Dwarves" sent up a lot of red flags. The basic design was just plain bad. It was also an unofficial photo from paparazzi. Need I remind you the history of horrific set photos from films? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxx93 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Zegler's not the problem. Disney's PR team is the real issue here, cause every single dumb thing that came out of Rachel's mouth had to be approved by the PR team before she spoke out. Iger should fire them all and change the marketing strategy if they want to salvage this project. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I get the very annoying feeling that they're gonna try to turn this into a Brie Larson thing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipDerby Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: I get the very annoying feeling that they're gonna try to turn this into a Brie Larson thing Brie Larson, Anne Hathaway, Rachel Zegler, etc etc. If a young woman speaks her mind, the internet turns them into a monster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringedmortality Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, ChipDerby said: Brie Larson, Anne Hathaway, Rachel Zegler, etc etc. If a young woman speaks her mind, the internet turns them into a monster. Did Hathaway even ever say anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
