ROGUE ONE WEEKEND THREAD | Actuals R1 155.09m, Moana 12.7m, OCP 8.58m, CB 7.1m, FB 5.07m

[elcaballero]

2 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

For anyone curious, the films in the top 50-60 ranges are events, except for the ones that made a huge chunk of their admissions in re-releases:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

 

Your fav blockbuster not in that range you say? NOT AN EVENT. 

So we have had 50 events in the 100+ year history of cinema? This that what you're saying?

[redfirebird2008]

Just now, MovieMan89 said:

No, an event=a phenomenon. Movies that are big blockbusters are not events. Events are rare. I'm not even sure they shouldn't be narrowed further down to top 30 admissions or so. 

 

Well this is where a number of us disagree with you. Fundamental difference of defining "event" and "phenomenon." To me, something like The Matrix Reloaded was a big event but not a phenomenon. It opened huge (especially for Rated R) and then had poor legs due to far less than phenomenal WOM. 

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

Just now, MovieMan89 said:

Nope, <1% chance of hitting 520+, and even if it does it would actually be around 460-480m when you take filthy, trixie, false premium inflation out. 

 

NOT AN EVENT. 

I wouldn't be so sure 

[MovieMan89]

1 minute ago, Porthos said:

 

And you know as well as I do that comparing the movie viewing environment now to those decades ago is silly.

 

You have your own idiosyncratic defintion of 'event'.  That's fine.  But the entertainment industry would disagree heavily that there's only one or two movie events in a decade rather than two or three events a year.

 

Then they have no clue what a box office event is. If it happens over and over every year it isn't an event. This is pretty hilarious some of you don't understand the different between a huge success and an event. 

Edited December 19, 2016 by MovieMan89

[Claire of Themyscira]

YAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS at Star Wars: Episode III - Scalp Of The Sith being an event!

 

[MovieMan89]

1 minute ago, redfirebird2008 said:

 

Well this is where a number of us disagree with you. Fundamental difference of defining "event" and "phenomenon." To me, something like The Matrix Reloaded was a big event but not a phenomenon. It opened huge (especially for Rated R) and then had poor legs due to far less than phenomenal WOM. 

There can be event openings for movies that ultimately aren't events overall. I already said that. DH2 is the poster child of that type of anomaly. 

[cannastop]

So how long is #NOTANEVENT going to last? At least up until Guardians of the Galaxy 2, right?

[robertman2]

30 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

That event does not belong with those other peasants. 

 

And arguing movies are events based on their unadjusted grosses is hilariously misinformed. If you want to argue movies like Civil War and Age of Ultron were "events", you have to also argue that about films like Crocodile Dundee, The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, Young Frankenstein, Gremlins, Narnia, The Fugitive, The Caine Mutiny, and Meet the Fockers. Lol, no. 

Gremlins 2 is the biggest event ever

[elcaballero]

Can we agree that there is no concrete definition of an event and what some consider to be an event might not be according to others?

 

Jeez, I can't believe we're still having this conversation.

 

And Rogue One is the definition of an event film. 

[The Panda]

30 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

That event does not belong with those other peasants. 

 

And arguing movies are events based on their unadjusted grosses is hilariously misinformed. If you want to argue movies like Civil War and Age of Ultron were "events", you have to also argue that about films like Crocodile Dundee, The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, Young Frankenstein, Gremlins, Narnia, The Fugitive, The Caine Mutiny, and Meet the Fockers. Lol, no. 

 

Yes, all of those were events.  Some events are bigger than other events.

 

Youre just being ignorant to Rogue One's success because you didn't like the movie.

[redfirebird2008]

Just now, MovieMan89 said:

There can be event openings for movies that ultimately aren't events overall. I already said that. DH2 is the poster child of that type of anomaly. 

 

It's still an event in pop culture. It was the biggest domestic and overseas movie of 2011. I laughed as hard as anyone when the BOM writer pointed out that the opening weekend was likely well outside Top 5 all-time in admissions, but it was still a big event...the biggest event of 2011. 

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

At this point, it's all semantics. No one is technically right or wrong here. MovieMan just has a much narrower definition of an 'event' than 99% of us here. We're never gonna change each other's viewpoints, and it's all going in circles, so let's just agree to disagree.

[MovieMan89]

1 minute ago, Rey said:

YAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS at Star Wars: Episode III - Scalp Of The Sith being an event!

 

Mmm...that one is debatable. It technically misses the cutoff. But in such cases, the "preference" stipulation is allowed to take priority: wherein if a person loves the film they can argue in favor of it being an event and not be totally wrong, while someone who hates it can say no it isn't and not be totally wrong either. 

 

This kind of confusion and gray areas are what I'm here for people. 

[Daxtreme]

Just now, Jayhawk said:

At this point, it's all semantics. No one is technically right or wrong here. MovieMan just has a much narrower definition of an 'event' than 99% of us here. We're never gonna change each other's viewpoints, and it's all going in circles, so let's just agree to disagree.

[Claire of Themyscira]

If Rogue One makes at least $40M today...

 

[cannastop]

I just give "event' status to movies that sell out a shit ton of multiplexes across the country. Fuck me, right?

[druv10]

1 hour ago, Doctor RTH gone Rouge said:

Sun could be looking 38-41

So 11.7%-18% drop range. Legs are already kicking in. 156-159M OW!!!

[The Panda]

2 minutes ago, Jayhawk said:

At this point, it's all semantics. No one is technically right or wrong here. MovieMan just has a much narrower definition of an 'event' than 99% of us here. We're never gonna change each other's viewpoints, and it's all going in circles, so let's just agree to disagree.

 

Except he said before Rogue One opened that the minimum for an event nowadays was 500m, whichever Rogue One is nearly locked to fly pass.

 

He's just being ridiculous because he turned out to be wrong.

Edited December 19, 2016 by ThePanda A Star Wars Story

[cannastop]

1 minute ago, MovieMan89 said:

Mmm...that one is debatable. It technically misses the cutoff. But in such cases, the "preference" stipulation is allowed to take priority: wherein if a person loves the film they can argue in favor of it being an event and not be totally wrong, while someone who hates it can say no it isn't and not be totally wrong either. 

 

This kind of confusion and gray areas are what I'm here for people. 

Dude, it's your cutoff, and pretty much no one else is going along with it.

 

Or are they?

#NOTANEVENT

[Claire of Themyscira]

2 minutes ago, ThePanda A Star Wars Story said:

You're just being ignorant to Rogue One's success because you didn't like the movie.