ROGUE ONE WEEKEND THREAD | Actuals R1 155.09m, Moana 12.7m, OCP 8.58m, CB 7.1m, FB 5.07m

[Mattrek]

1 hour ago, stuart360 said:

Its nice to see AVATAR getting some love around here for a change.

 

I saw it 10 times in theaters and have been defending it for years. Love the movie.

[DealWithIt]

2 minutes ago, Eevin said:

Since we're discussing Avatar, yes, it did in fact make more money than TFA. Shocking, I know. But the most interesting thing to me is that a movie grossing $2.7b+ worldwide has had so little of a cultural impact, at least here in America, anyway.

Sure, you have Avatar fans, but they're very sparse. It's like most people came, thought "oh, that was nice", and then didn't really think about it again. 

 

Well, the movie is seven years old now. Star Wars has now had eight movies on the big screen, a few TV shows that have been pretty popular, numerous video games and toys and collectibles, etc. if Avatar would've been up to a trilogy of movies by now, I'd imagine it would be in conversations far more and have much more of a presence than it does. It was a phenomenon at and for awhile after release but with just one movie, there's only so much you can talk about before you are circling back to the same things you already discussed. 

 

Once the sequel(s) finally get here, talk about the first one and what's to come will no doubt ramp up. Cameron created one heck of a world, the stories to be told within it are really limitless. 

[IronJimbo]

Just now, DAR said:

T2 and Aliens are great after that the Cameron movie I would watch next is True Lies

 

A truly underrated film although for me,

 

T2>Aliens>Titanic>The Terminator>Avatar>True Lies>The Abyss

The Abyss was a great film but Cameron's worst.

 

About cultural impact? What do you guys even mean. What do you want from a stand-alone film. You're going to have to break it down for me exactly what you mean by cultural impact because right now it's just a meaningless word to me which is being repeated.

 

[CoolioD1]

You guys will see when Ava2r comes out. it'll be twice as big, people will be tattooing their entire bodies blue, sam worthington will finally be a movie star and get Man on a Ledge: Closer 2 the Edge greenlit. huge impact.

[IronJimbo]

1 minute ago, DealWithIt said:

 

Well, the movie is seven years old now. Star Wars has now had eight movies on the big screen, a few TV shows that have been pretty popular, numerous video games and toys and collectibles, etc. if Avatar would've been up to a trilogy of movies by now, I'd imagine it would be in conversations far more and have much more of a presence than it does. It was a phenomenon at and for awhile after release but with just one movie, there's only so much you can talk about before you are circling back to the same things you already discussed. 

 

Once the sequel(s) finally get here, talk about the first one and what's to come will no doubt ramp up. Cameron created one heck of a world, the stories to be told within it are really limitless. 

 

Exactly, it's a stand-alone film and people are harping on about it's cultural impact.

[elcaballero]

1 minute ago, CoolioD1 said:

i love cameron but i'm a total asshole for thinking aliens is at the bottom of the pile w/ his films. like it's ok. would watch everything else before it. (no, not the piranha movie, you FUCKS)

This is legitimately an opinion I have never heard before. That doesn't make you a total asshole though. Not seeing The Abyss does and liking KOTCS more than TOD does. @DAR

[Mulder]

12 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

 

Not as big as Titanic, but I'd say it definitely had a bigger impact in its time than those other two. Lasting legacy is a different topic, though I will say if Avatar 2 delivers then you can bet that Avatar will earn a rightful spot in iconic film history. 

In it's time yeah, but Aliens and Terminator have become iconic in the west. But the points about the in-industry impact and the impact in China and other countries are very good points.

[DAR]

What's  impressive about GWTW is it made its bones when ticket prices were drastically lower

[Celedhring]

The long delay on the Avatar sequels hurt its cultural impact, imho. People have been allowed to forget about it. Pretty sure that if Star Wars had stopped at A New Hope it would have been a situation similar to Avatar: a film that revolutionized filmmaking technique, made a shit ton of money, yet wasn't very present in popular culture 7-8 years later.

 

We'll see what happens when/if the Avatar sequels drop.

Edited December 17, 2016 by Celedhring

[Mattrek]

1 hour ago, MrPink said:

 

No puppet. No puppet.

 

 

 

I think you mean "No puppet. I'm not the puppet. You're the puppet!"

[MovieMan89]

2 minutes ago, Dexter of Suburbia said:

You can't live on Pandora it is online radio station. Why would someone think they could live on a radio station?

If they had pushed through for 8 years they could have had their wish. Ish...:

 

[DAR]

Just now, elcaballero said:

This is legitimately an opinion I have never heard before. That doesn't make you a total asshole though. Not seeing The Abyss does and liking KOTCS more than TOD does. @DAR

  

[IronJimbo]

5 minutes ago, Eevin said:

Yes, I'm sure immediately after the fact the world was stunned at Avatar's achievements. That's why it was so leggy. But seven years later, you don't see too much acclaim/merchandising/talk about it as you do with modern hits like Avengers, TFA, Jurassic World...and granted, most of those brands are inherently marketable in and of itself compared to something like Avatar. But the fact that people are genuinely surprised when I tell them it's the biggest movie ever might mean it doesn't have the impact some think it does.

 

You've made the point yourself but I'm going to repeat it, those are all franchise movies.

[Kvikk Lunsj]

2 minutes ago, DAR said:

What's  impressive about GWTW is it made its bones when ticket prices were drastically lower

James Cameron could work with George Lucas and Steven Spielberg and they could still match it. @Grand Moff Tele what was it like when Gone With the Wind was released? Was every talk about for years at work? Was it the only thing on the radio? What was the fan fiction like? 

[The Stingray]

True Lies is one of the most entertaining action movies of all time.

[MovieMan89]

3 minutes ago, Celedhring said:

The long delay on the Avatar sequels hurt its cultural impact, imho. People have been allowed to forget about it. Pretty sure that if Star Wars had stopped at A New Hope it would have been a situation similar to Avatar: a film that revolutionized filmmaking technique, made a shit ton of money, yet wasn't very present in popular culture 7-8 years later.

 

We'll see what happens when/if the Avatar sequels drop.

This is a really great point I'm surprised has never occurred to me honestly. I wonder what would have happened if ESB had released 10 years after ANH? Maybe what will happen with Avatar 2, where you will see the first become revered again after it is brought back into the public consciousness. 

[Kvikk Lunsj]

4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

If they had pushed through for 8 years they could have had their wish. Ish...:

 

 

 

 

What is this?  I am really confused right now. 

Edited December 17, 2016 by Dexter of Suburbia

[Mulder]

Just now, Dexter of Suburbia said:

What is this?  I am really confused right now?

Animal Kingdom's upcoming Pandora section. ((Which is way too early imo))

[elcaballero]

2 minutes ago, DAR said:

  

And go watch The Abyss.

[MovieMan89]

Just now, Dexter of Suburbia said:

What is this?  I am really confused right now?

Disney is building Pandora at their Animal Kingdom park. Opens next summer.