WEEKEND THREAD | Actual: Wonder Woman 58.63M, Estimates: Mummy 32.2M, Underpants 12.3M, Pirates 10.2M, ICAN 6M

[SpiritComix]

6 hours ago, CJohn said:

Wonder Woman is near perfect. The only better superhero is The Dark Knight.

 

[cory]

13 minutes ago, Barnack said:

 

Was it not by 2 not so long ago ? (and just 10 year's ago, doubling was the success bar not the profit start bar).

 

Big production budget movie usually can even make profit before doubling (production budget + participation bonus before profit) depending if they are domestic heavy enough.

 

If the 125 million budget is true, that the same budget than Matt Damon Elysium, and that made a 20 million profit with a 286 million box office performance.

Elysium was far less reliant on China.

[grey ghost]

3 hours ago, God Emperor Tele said:

 

 

The spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised!

 

Classic Futurama. 

[Barnack]

8 minutes ago, cory said:

Elysium was far less reliant on China.

 

Sure, Mummy will need much more than the evaluated 220 million WW to break even than Elysium had because of that, but if one believe that very reasonable 125 million budget, depending on Cruise deal (if it is profit participation bonus for example) it's break even point could be not too high.

 

My point was more about the everyone say triple your budget general rules, more than Mummy in particular, that rules could be a good one for China heavy title like Warcraft but not a general one imo.

 

Would not surprise me if those much higher budget rumors are true too, we will probably never know any of it.

Edited June 12, 2017 by Barnack

[kayumanggi]

Sony is having a terrible first six months. It's biggest grosser of the year is a movie released last year.

 

Rank	Movie Title (click to view)	Studio	Gross / Theaters		Total Gross / % of Total		Open
1	Passengers (2016)	Sony	$44,634,490	3,478	$100,014,699	44.6%	12/21/16
2	Smurfs: The Lost Village	Sony	$44,035,646	3,610	$44,035,646	100.0%	4/7/17
3	Underworld: Blood Wars	SGem	$30,353,973	3,070	$30,353,973	100.0%	1/6/17
4	Life (2017)	Sony	$30,234,022	3,146	$30,234,022	100.0%	3/24/17
5	Resident Evil: The Final Chapter	SGem	$26,830,068	3,104	$26,830,068	100.0%	1/27/17
6	T2: Trainspotting	TriS	$2,402,004	331	$2,402,004	100.0%	3/17/17
7	Journey to the West: The Demons Strike Back	Sony	$880,346	67	$880,346	100.0%	2/3/17
8	Inferno	Sony	$121,923	102	$34,343,574	0.4%	10/28/16
9	The Magnificent Seven (2016)	Sony	$12,402	23	$93,432,655	0.0%	9/23/16
10	1898: Los ultimos de Filipinas	Sony	$2,848	10	$2,848	100.0%	3/3/17

Edited June 12, 2017 by kayumanggi

[That One Girl]

2 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

Sony is having a terrible first six months. It's biggest grosser of the year is a movie released last year.

 

Rank	Movie Title (click to view)	Studio	Gross / Theaters		Total Gross / % of Total		Open
1	Passengers (2016)	Sony	$44,634,490	3,478	$100,014,699	44.6%	12/21/16
2	Smurfs: The Lost Village	Sony	$44,035,646	3,610	$44,035,646	100.0%	4/7/17
3	Underworld: Blood Wars	SGem	$30,353,973	3,070	$30,353,973	100.0%	1/6/17
4	Life (2017)	Sony	$30,234,022	3,146	$30,234,022	100.0%	3/24/17
5	Resident Evil: The Final Chapter	SGem	$26,830,068	3,104	$26,830,068	100.0%	1/27/17
6	T2: Trainspotting	TriS	$2,402,004	331	$2,402,004	100.0%	3/17/17
7	Journey to the West: The Demons Strike Back	Sony	$880,346	67	$880,346	100.0%	2/3/17
8	Inferno	Sony	$121,923	102	$34,343,574	0.4%	10/28/16
9	The Magnificent Seven (2016)	Sony	$12,402	23	$93,432,655	0.0%	9/23/16
10	1898: Los ultimos de Filipinas	Sony	$2,848	10	$2,848	100.0%	3/3/17

 

Resident Evil made nearly 8x its budget back though.

[grim22]

Just now, That One Guy said:

 

Resident Evil made nearly 8x its budget back though.

 

Sony saw very little of the China money. They sold the movie outright and it wasn't released by them in China. They got a small buyout fee and a percentage of earnings over 150M or something similar.

[kayumanggi]

3 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

Resident Evil made nearly 8x its budget back though.

 

Was just talking about domestic. But yeah, you are correct.

[elcaballero]

3 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

Sony is having a terrible first six months. It's biggest grosser of the year is a movie released last year.

 

Rank	Movie Title (click to view)	Studio	Gross / Theaters		Total Gross / % of Total		Open
1	Passengers (2016)	Sony	$44,634,490	3,478	$100,014,699	44.6%	12/21/16
2	Smurfs: The Lost Village	Sony	$44,035,646	3,610	$44,035,646	100.0%	4/7/17
3	Underworld: Blood Wars	SGem	$30,353,973	3,070	$30,353,973	100.0%	1/6/17
4	Life (2017)	Sony	$30,234,022	3,146	$30,234,022	100.0%	3/24/17
5	Resident Evil: The Final Chapter	SGem	$26,830,068	3,104	$26,830,068	100.0%	1/27/17
6	T2: Trainspotting	TriS	$2,402,004	331	$2,402,004	100.0%	3/17/17
7	Journey to the West: The Demons Strike Back	Sony	$880,346	67	$880,346	100.0%	2/3/17
8	Inferno	Sony	$121,923	102	$34,343,574	0.4%	10/28/16
9	The Magnificent Seven (2016)	Sony	$12,402	23	$93,432,655	0.0%	9/23/16
10	1898: Los ultimos de Filipinas	Sony	$2,848	10	$2,848	100.0%	3/3/17

 

1 minute ago, That One Guy said:

 

Resident Evil made nearly 8x its budget back though.

Yeah, it's more like they haven't released any real blockbusters yet.

[elcaballero]

2 minutes ago, grim22 said:

 

Sony saw very little of the China money. They sold the movie outright and it wasn't released by them in China. They got a small buyout fee and a percentage of earnings over 150M or something similar.

They chose... poorly.

[TwoMisfits]

4 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

Sony is having a terrible first six months. It's biggest grosser of the year is a movie released last year.

 

Rank	Movie Title (click to view)	Studio	Gross / Theaters		Total Gross / % of Total		Open
1	Passengers (2016)	Sony	$44,634,490	3,478	$100,014,699	44.6%	12/21/16
2	Smurfs: The Lost Village	Sony	$44,035,646	3,610	$44,035,646	100.0%	4/7/17
3	Underworld: Blood Wars	SGem	$30,353,973	3,070	$30,353,973	100.0%	1/6/17
4	Life (2017)	Sony	$30,234,022	3,146	$30,234,022	100.0%	3/24/17
5	Resident Evil: The Final Chapter	SGem	$26,830,068	3,104	$26,830,068	100.0%	1/27/17
6	T2: Trainspotting	TriS	$2,402,004	331	$2,402,004	100.0%	3/17/17
7	Journey to the West: The Demons Strike Back	Sony	$880,346	67	$880,346	100.0%	2/3/17
8	Inferno	Sony	$121,923	102	$34,343,574	0.4%	10/28/16
9	The Magnificent Seven (2016)	Sony	$12,402	23	$93,432,655	0.0%	9/23/16
10	1898: Los ultimos de Filipinas	Sony	$2,848	10	$2,848	100.0%	3/3/17

 

Those are only domestic numbers...they've had some movies really hit worldwide...

 

For example, Smurfs has made almost $190M WW on a $60M budget, so it's definitely made them money.  Even better for Resident Evil as previous poster mentioned...

 

And pretty much all their movie budgets have been low...so they don't need $500M WW to break even...

[Dementeleus]

6 minutes ago, grim22 said:

 

Sony saw very little of the China money. They sold the movie outright and it wasn't released by them in China. They got a small buyout fee and a percentage of earnings over 150M or something similar.

 

True, although their buyout still covered something like ¼ their production expenses, so even then it wasn't so horrible. Who could've known it would blow up like that?

[UNDERDOG]

So who's had a shittier year?

Sony or Paramount?

 

[That One Girl]

Just now, UNDERDOG said:

So who's had a shittier year?

Sony or Paramount?

 

 

Paramount.  Sony has had some "eh, nothing too bad, maybe a bit of money loss" movies, but Paramount has had two megabombs in the form of Ghost in the Shell and Monster Trucks (  )

[kayumanggi]

13 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

Those are only domestic numbers...they've had some movies really hit worldwide...

 

For example, Smurfs has made almost $190M WW on a $60M budget, so it's definitely made them money.  Even better for Resident Evil as previous poster mentioned...

 

And pretty much all their movie budgets have been low...so they don't need $500M WW to break even...

 

I think, despite those numbers, we won't see SMURFS II.

[WrathOfHan]

Sony has consistently performed ok with a couple of bombs annually over the past few years. At least this year they have a megahit with Spider-Man.

Edited June 12, 2017 by WrathOfHan

[kayumanggi]

What are Paramount's Oscar entries this year?

[Jonwo]

5 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

Paramount.  Sony has had some "eh, nothing too bad, maybe a bit of money loss" movies, but Paramount has had two megabombs in the form of Ghost in the Shell and Monster Trucks (  )

 

Paramount has two more releases this summer then nothing until October. Sony has five more films to be released this summer, Spider-Man will be the most successful but Emoji Movie and The Dark Tower could also be successful. 

[Jonwo]

Just now, kayumanggi said:

What are Paramount's Oscar entries this year?

 

Downsizing, Suburbicon, maybe mother!

[Barnack]

1 minute ago, kayumanggi said:

What are Paramount's Oscar entries this year?

 

Downsizing is the big frontrunner for them with Suberbicon (clooney coens brothers), and mother! but that is a total unknown that could be wait outside Academy taste.