RRA Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, mredman said: what is DOJ ? OJ Simpson got a doctorate 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, mredman said: what is DOJ ? Department of Justice. I hear the writers guild are not happy about this. Would love it if they went on strike. The Murdochs and Iger really are scum.....lol.. Rupert Murdoch is also off his meds, it can't just be greed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mredman Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 oh it is greed. why else even do this. I mean what is the point other than greed and power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, mredman said: oh it is greed. why else even do this. I mean what is the point other than greed and power. Also he wants his sons to be set for life. Apparently all the billions they have is not enough. Or maybe the plan is to infiltrate Disney through his sons, by being shareholders. Would be funny if his son replaces Iger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 There will be no anti-trust issues. The Disney shares offered in the deal flow straight through to each Fox shareholder. The Murdochs will end with about 5% of Disney. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Johnny Tran said: Nobody is saying they should take risks for the fuck of it so why are you suggesting that's been said? We are discussing creativity. Logan was creative, it was different, it made a lot of money and it was praised for being unlike many of the CBMs we had seen the past couple years. Disney can make a good Wolverine movie and make a ton of money. That's not in question. Would they have made Logan though? Probably not. That's the entire point when we are discussing "risks". Alot of Logan's appeal and novelty came from it's R rating and adult elements, ditto for Deadpool. 1) How much of Fox's PG-13 superhero stuff is just as groundbreaking and fresh as their recent R rated stuff. Fox has been making trashy CBM far worse than MCU for almost two decades. They make two edgelord R rated movies and suddenly we forget about how many times they completely wasted opportunities. Even Deadpool was a fluke they had to be tricked into with leaked footage. 2) Disney/Marvel has shown they can put out quality R rated material with Punisher and Daredevil. Plus they said they won't change Deadpool's rating or approach so they can easily emulate the edgelord R rated stuff but without the horrendous track record for pg-13 superhero movies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 46 minutes ago, Hades said: Department of Justice. I hear the writers guild are not happy about this. Would love it if they went on strike. The Murdochs and Iger really are scum.....lol.. Rupert Murdoch is also off his meds, it can't just be greed. Iger is scum? Based on what? Being the most successful studio head in the 21st century? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, Hades said: Also he wants his sons to be set for life. Apparently all the billions they have is not enough. Or maybe the plan is to infiltrate Disney through his sons, by being shareholders. Would be funny if his son replaces Iger. A drop in movie quality will not be treated fondly by Disney shareholders, so I'm not worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, grey ghost said: A drop in movie quality will not be treated fondly by Disney shareholders, so I'm not worried. Movie quality? No. They’ll care though if the money trucks come in lighter than they’re supposed to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, RRA said: Movie quality? No. They’ll care though if the money trucks come in lighter than they’re supposed to be. That's the thing. I doubt MCU, SW, Pixar, WDAS and live action classic genre would be pouring in billions without a certain level of quality. Look at DCEU. Nothing is guaranteed. People assume Disney's success was just a matter of acquiring valuable IP's. That is false. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Feige getting his hands on the X-Men and Deadpool is only a small part of this nightmare, look at this headline from hell: Murdoch's Disney deal is a boon for Fox News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Fox News can't save Republicans from mid terms aka Judgement Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 5 hours ago, HenryjRhetorics said: ESPN and Fox Sports X Men meet Avengers ahmm... What else? Entities like Fox Sports aren't part of the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 hour ago, mredman said: oh it is greed. why else even do this. I mean what is the point other than greed and power. Silly Rabbit, billions are never enough for the 1 percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 hours ago, grey ghost said: Iger is scum? Based on what? Being the most successful studio head in the 21st century? What Iger has done is nothing special. Any Studio head with unlimited funds will lazily go after ready made successful brands and take all the undeserved praise. I am pretty sure he has tried to buy Netflix, but thankfully they gave him the middle finger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Netflix’s valuation has been far to high for an existing media company for many years now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/disney-netflix-acquisition-rumors-1201961964/ Was just a rumor, but I would not put it pass them. Why make successful brands, when you can just buy them and take all the praise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hades said: What Iger has done is nothing special. Any Studio head with unlimited funds will lazily go after ready made successful brands and take all the undeserved praise. I am pretty sure he has tried to buy Netflix, but thankfully they gave him the middle finger. Nothing special? Which prequel made over 2 billion WW? How many non-MCU Marvel movies have made over 850 m? Why can't other studios outgross Disney even though Disney releases only a dozen or so major films? Making 3 billion DOM in a single year while releasing fewer films is "nothing special"? The truth is most people enjoy nostalgia and geek culture. Hollywood finally embraced it after decades of denial. Bob Iger saw the writing on the wall and now Disney blockbusters mostly run shit from March to December. Other studios and franchises are struggling to keep up. They can't invent megafranchises because that lightning in a bottle cannot be mass produced no matter how much the edgelords claim franchises are simple and basic. If it's so simple why do the Star Wars and Avatars emerge from nowhere only once or twice a decade? Edited December 15, 2017 by grey ghost 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtacy Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Asking the important questions first. Firefly movie series when? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 53 minutes ago, grey ghost said: Other studios and franchises are struggling to keep up. They can't invent megafranchises because that lightning in a bottle cannot be mass produced no matter how much the edgelords claim franchises are simple and basic. If it's so simple why do the Star Wars and Avatars emerge from nowhere only once or twice a decade? Other studios need to be visionary like Disney, who invented Star Wars and Avatar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
