YM! Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I’m thinking in 2019, the top 5 will be all Disney: 1.) TFA: $247M 2.) Lion King: $245M 3.) IX: $240M 4.) TLJ: $220M 5.) IW: $210M 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porthos Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Taruseth said: I am a bit confused did you adjust them and kept the order they were unadjusted? Yes, on purpose. I wanted to show how ticket price difference could make it seem like a film leaped over another one, but was probably neck-and-neck or even a little behind another one. Even three or four years of ticket inflation sometimes mattered a good deal. Feature, not a bug, in other words. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 The big jumps for OWs are the end of the 80's, end of the 90's, beginning of 00's, and beginning of 10's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadwayfreak66 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) On 12/29/2017 at 5:00 PM, JB33 said: Unless the Jurassic franchise somehow takes another big leap, I don't know what other studio will be able to gain footing at the top of the opening weekend list or any other big box office records. Warner Bros. had a chance with DC but they've bungled it. Fox just sold themselves out, otherwise they could have made a dent with the Avatar franchise. I think Warner Bros. has the best chance if they can do something big with Batman again, judging by how proven and lucrative the property has been in NA for years. If Fantastic Beasts can elevate the franchise back to Harry Potter heights with the next installments then that's possibly another card they can play as well. Fantastic Beasts 1 was a film with absolutely zero familiarity in it for blockbuster audiences to attach to, and it still made 814 mil, more than the lowest grossing HP film, 5 years after DHP2's bow. It's already at "Harry Potter Heights". Edited January 1, 2018 by Broadwayfreak66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Broadwayfreak66 said: Fantastic Beasts 1 was a film with absolutely zero familiarity in it for blockbuster audiences to attach to, and it still made 814 mil, more than the lowest grossing HP film, 5 years after DHP2's bow. It's already at "Harry Potter Heights". No it isn't. We're talking about top 5 opening weekends here. When I say Harry Potter heights, I mean like when 2 movies in that franchise broke the opening weekend record. After one movie which opened to around $74M or so, no, it's not at Harry Potter heights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadwayfreak66 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, JB33 said: No it isn't. We're talking about top 5 opening weekends here. When I say Harry Potter heights, I mean like when 2 movies in that franchise broke the opening weekend record. After one movie which opened to around $74M or so, no, it's not at Harry Potter heights. Yes, it is. Again, Harry Potter rode off of the fame of an extremely successful book series. Fantastic Beasts is something audiences weren't at all familiar with, and it made more than one of the original Harry Potter installments, after 5 years. Judging it on what records it breaks is a bit technical and ridiculous, not to mention, unfair. Edited January 1, 2018 by Broadwayfreak66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 5 hours ago, Broadwayfreak66 said: Fantastic Beasts 1 was a film with absolutely zero familiarity in it for blockbuster audiences to attach to, and it still made 814 mil, more than the lowest grossing HP film, 5 years after DHP2's bow. It's already at "Harry Potter Heights". At is height Harry Potter had the biggest opening weekend of all time, and only behind Titanic for the second biggest movie unadjusted ever of the world. Every Potter entry were either the biggest movie of the year or the second biggest, except for Part 1, that was number 3. Fantastic beast was out of the top 5, it is a step below Harry Potter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadwayfreak66 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 11 hours ago, Barnack said: At is height Harry Potter had the biggest opening weekend of all time, and only behind Titanic for the second biggest movie unadjusted ever of the world. Every Potter entry were either the biggest movie of the year or the second biggest, except for Part 1, that was number 3. Fantastic beast was out of the top 5, it is a step below Harry Potter. As I've explained multiple times, you don't judge every single film in a franchise, especially a pretty far removed spinoff franchise, by what records it broke. That is ridiculous. Harry Potter grossed so much because it was an adaptation of an immensely popular book series. In Fantastic Beast's purely original context, it is 100% at Harry Potter heights. Not every Harry Potter film broke a record. This is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 38 minutes ago, Broadwayfreak66 said: As I've explained multiple times, you don't judge every single film in a franchise, especially a pretty far removed spinoff franchise, by what records it broke. That is ridiculous. Harry Potter grossed so much because it was an adaptation of an immensely popular book series. In Fantastic Beast's purely original context, it is 100% at Harry Potter heights. Not every Harry Potter film broke a record. This is ridiculous. Adjusted for inflation, the lowest-grossing HP movie (DOM) was Deathly Hallows - Part 1 at 330M. Fantastic Beasts grossed 100M less than that. No, FB isnt on the same level as Harry Potter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadwayfreak66 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 58 minutes ago, Brainbug said: Adjusted for inflation, the lowest-grossing HP movie (DOM) was Deathly Hallows - Part 1 at 330M. Fantastic Beasts grossed 100M less than that. No, FB isnt on the same level as Harry Potter. Counting only domestic numbers is so ridiculously stupid. America doesn't decide what's popular and what isn't. The film grossed more than Prisoner of Azkaban, 814 million vs 796 million. It is 100% at Harry Potter heights. Stop trying to make weak excuses. What the films made in America only doesn't mean anything, lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 39 minutes ago, Broadwayfreak66 said: Counting only domestic numbers is so ridiculously stupid. America doesn't decide what's popular and what isn't. The film grossed more than Prisoner of Azkaban, 814 million vs 796 million. It is 100% at Harry Potter heights. Stop trying to make weak excuses. What the films made in America only doesn't mean anything, lmao. Just stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Broadwayfreak66 said: [mod edit:off topic] You don't even get it. What you're saying has nothing to do with this thread. We're talking about the top 5 DOMESTIC opening weekends at any given time. Fantastic Beasts has yet to be relevant in THAT discussion. However, I said if Fantastic Beasts can reach Harry Potter heights, aka that level of box office power (at least on opening weekends) domestically, then WB has a shot at a tip 5 opening weekend again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Moderation This is not the Fantastic Beasts Thread. Please read the opening post or thread title before going off on unrelated tangents. Regards The BOT Staff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Hot take(?): The HP cinematic universe (including FB) has no relevance in a top 10 domestic discussion anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Girl Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lor San Tele said: Hot take(?): The HP cinematic universe (including FB) has no relevance in a top 10 domestic discussion anymore. RIP Tele. Killed by the Potter fanboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Lor San Tele said: Hot take(?): The HP cinematic universe (including FB) has no relevance in a top 10 domestic discussion anymore. Is this really hot though? Do you mean all-time or yearly, because it might have, all-time no way. If we talk about the past it does. If we talk about now or the near future, no way. HP 8 sits in #30 place dom and #9 for opening weekend, that is the glorious past. But that doesn't meant anything nowadays, as FB sits on #90 for OW and #132 total. In 2016 it was #11 OW and #12 total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Taruseth said: Is this really hot though? Do you mean all-time or yearly, because it might have, all-time no way. If we talk about the past it does. If we talk about now or the near future, no way. HP 8 sits in #30 place dom and #9 for opening weekend, that is the glorious past. But that doesn't meant anything nowadays, as FB sits on #90 for OW and #132 total. In 2016 it was #11 OW and #12 total. I don't think it's a particularly hot take, but we have some passionate HP fans here who might disagree. I also don't think the MCU will ever reach the opening heights of the first AVENGERS again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruseth Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Lor San Tele said: I don't think it's a particularly hot take, but we have some passionate HP fans here who might disagree. I also don't think the MCU will ever reach the opening heights of the first AVENGERS again. If Inflation does it work we will see another Avenger movie opening to $207+M and I personally doubt that will be IW or A4. But maybe that simply is, because Comic book movies aren't real big event movies in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lor San Tele said: I don't think it's a particularly hot take, but we have some passionate HP fans here who might disagree. I also don't think the MCU will ever reach the opening heights of the first AVENGERS again. Domestically, maybe. Maybe #10 or #9. Overseas is another matter entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Noctis said: Domestically, maybe. Maybe #10 or #9. Overseas is another matter entirely. You think a HPCU movie will open over $175m domestically? I think that's a really tall hill to climb, especially since DH2 was the capper of the whole franchise conclusion and had the shift to 3D to help its boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...