catlover Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, CaptainJackSparrow said: Awe, how come a decline in Japan? Well the first one hit ¥25B or around $250m, 3rd biggest of all time. It's a very rare phenomenon. It reached that number with super crazy legs. In fact, no movie will ever reach that height without those kind of legs. So to exceed the first movie, it needs to perform the same, legs-wise, which is almost impossible. But who knows. Never say never. Edited November 15, 2019 by catlover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jedi Jat said: Frozen II 6 Days Out Midnight: ¥0.16mn Opening Day: ¥2.3mn (31.75k shows) Saturday: ¥1.25mn (15.5k shows) Sunday: ¥1.05mn (13k shows) Total: ¥4.75mn Very strong start to pre-sales, biggest for an animation film, pointing toward, it's little early to say, but ¥400mn plus weekend. Let's wait for few days though. Comps Spoiler Time Frozen II Ralph Breaks The Internet Despicable Me 3 Gross Change Gross Change Gross Change 11 Days Out ¥0.13 10 Days Out ¥0.26 ¥0.13 9 Days Out ¥0.48 ¥0.23 8 Days Out ¥0.95 ¥0.47 7 Days Out ¥0.64 ¥0.11 ¥1.48 ¥0.53 6 Days Out ¥2.25 ¥1.61 ¥0.44 ¥0.33 ¥2.20 ¥0.72 5 Days Out ¥3.33 ¥1.08 ¥0.66 ¥0.22 ¥3.06 ¥0.86 4 Days Out ¥4.29 ¥0.96 ¥0.86 ¥0.20 ¥4.09 ¥1.03 3 Days Out ¥6.67 ¥2.38 ¥1.35 ¥0.49 ¥6.05 ¥1.96 2 Days Out ¥11.47 ¥4.80 ¥2.34 ¥0.99 ¥9.34 ¥3.29 1 Day Out ¥19.39 ¥7.92 ¥3.97 ¥1.63 ¥16.17 ¥6.83 Final ¥37.99 ¥18.59 ¥7.79 ¥3.83 ¥36.48 ¥20.31 Opening Day ¥132.95 ¥28.62 ¥137.80 PSm 3.50 3.67 3.78 Edited November 15, 2019 by Jedi Jat 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Jedi Jat said: Really happy to hear this. ¥400M = $55M+ The first one only made $49M lifetime in China. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Like a couple more days to actually see a trend, but that’s solid. meanwhile in SK looks headed for about 315k for D-05, continuing to pace a bit above AoU and about 70% IW. Forget comparing to animations,will comfortably blow away PS of every HW movie but Avengers 2,3,4. Of course given performance of first there it can8t be considered that surprising. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Spain Presales for OW in the biggest theater of the country are on par to TLK at the same point. For the record, TLK opened to €8m ($8.8m) 4-day opening. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edroger3 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Gavin @gavinfeng97 5 h5 ore fa Altro Early tracking suggests Frozen 2 is looking to make $50-55M on opening weekend in China. It's close to The Lion King in advance ticket sale at the same point. #Frozen2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I'm so eager to see its box office you guys 😊 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiem Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 Still 11 days til it releases here in NZ but so far it’s sold 216 tickets at my local theatre for opening day (ahead of the 3 days before release totals of Joker (160) and Hobbs and Shaw (139) but still a ways off TLK (926) hopefully it continues to ramp up. Tomorrow I’ll probably post a full look at how it’s doing 10 days out versus other movies 3 days/12 hours give percentages and opening weekend outlooks and whatnot but so far here it’s doing great just not on TLK level like some other places around the world at least not yet. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDER BIRD Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I guess Frozen 2 >> TLK BO thread want so crazy afterall. But then it'll take F2 all it's might to reach there (or atleast some of it) and TLK did that much by having negativity all around, so evens it out i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I would say 400mn Global weekend. Had it released in Australia, Russia, Italy and Brazil, might have tried 450mn. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Jedi Jat said: I would say 400mn Global weekend. Had it released in Australia, Russia, Italy and Brazil, might have tried 450mn. final total 1,5 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 minute ago, john2000 said: final total 1,5 ? Yeah, I won't go for over TLK yet but can see that happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jedi Jat said: I would say 400mn Global weekend. Had it released in Australia, Russia, Italy and Brazil, might have tried 450mn. Anything above $1.5B for the final total of this movie is already a big win!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiem Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) Albany Event Cinemas -Frozen II opening day (Thur 28/11/2019)10 days from release vs 3 days/12 hours to release of other films. 10:00am 14/216 11:00am 14/216 12:25pm 11/216 1:25pm 9/216 2:50pm 10/216 3:50pm 33/216 5:15pm 42/216 6:00pm GC 20/30 6:15pm 51/216 7:40pm 14/216 8:00pm GC 4/40 8:40pm 9/216 Total 231/2230 (10.36%) Very solid early numbers and it still has a week and a half of sales left, hopefully it starts getting close to TLK numbers soon although obviously will need more showtimes for that (which I imagine will happen soon). At the very least this should be at least a $2m NZD opening weekend but I expect that to move higher closer to release. Compared to 3 days/12 hours before release of other films. TLK Compared 3 days before 926/5338 (17.34%) = $1.27m Compared 12 hours before 1831/5554(32.96%) = $644,681 Hobbs and Shaw Compared 3 Days Before 139/1456 (9.54%) = $2.66m Compared 12 Hours Before 361/3560 (10.14%) = $1.02m Joker 3 Days Before 160/1536 (10.41%) = $1.83m 12 Hours Before 446/2756 (16.18%) = $657,780 Edited November 17, 2019 by Jamiem 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 My intuition is telling me that Frozen II will decline from the original outside of USA+Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, cannastop said: My intuition is telling me that Frozen II will decline from the original outside of USA+Canada. Exchange rates and Japan are the main problem to repeat what first part did, because, for example, my bet is that it will double in euros what first part did in Spain. But that result would "only" mean a 59% increase in dollars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, peludo said: Exchange rates and Japan are the main problem to repeat what first part did, because, for example, my bet is that it will double in euros what first part did in Spain. But that result would "only" mean a 59% increase in dollars. Not to mention that it probably can't reach the same heights in South Korea either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, cannastop said: Not to mention that it probably can't reach the same heights in South Korea either. I expect it to surpass the original in SK (admits). Between local inflation and ERs, I think USD ATP should be pretty close. Not that a small fall would be bad, but I don’t really see a way to dropping even 20% with these kind of PS numbers. Edited November 17, 2019 by Thanos Legion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Thanos Legion said: I expect it to surpass the original in SK (admits). Between local inflation and ERs, I think USD ATP should be pretty close. Not that a small fall would be bad, but I don’t really see a way to dropping even 20% with these kind of PS numbers. Of course that could be frontloading, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lor15 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I wasn't hoping for big numbers here in Uruguay because of the horrible release date, december 5th, but presales are starting tomorrow and that's only for blockbusters here. The power of Frozen brand is big 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...