Joker: Folie a Deux | October 4, 2024 | Lady Gaga is Harley Quinn in this 200M+ musical sequel

[Firepower]

1 minute ago, Mulder said:

Baffling comparison when WB dropped Snyder over an 800 million WW movie not making a billion while the studio's putting out a defense of Todd Phillips article after he's going to lose them millions but go on I guess.

It's a damage control, I highly doubt their relationship is gonna be the same privately. We'll see if WB finances his next movie.

[Mulder]

1 minute ago, Firepower said:

It's a damage control, I highly doubt their relationship is gonna be the same privately. We'll see if WB finances his next movie.

If they wanted to throw him to the wolves they would've the way Disney did it to Nia DaCosta over The Marvels. 

[dudalb]

3 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Baffling comparison when WB dropped Snyder over an 800 million WW movie not making a billion while the studio's putting out a defense of Todd Phillips article after he's going to lose them millions but go on I guess.

Ohm they will defend him, but it will be long time before they give him 200 Million to play around with again. I suspect it will be back to small/midlevel budget frilms for him for a long time

 

[WittyUsername]

9 minutes ago, Firepower said:

It's a damage control, I highly doubt their relationship is gonna be the same privately. We'll see if WB finances his next movie.

I feel like Phillips probably has enough clout that this movie won’t be enough to put him in director’s jail.

[HummingLemon496]

 present thee an early preview of...

The Joker: Folie à Deux Saga

How a billion dollar movie massively dropped the ball on a sequel.

• November 21, 2019: WB wants a sequel, but neither Todd Phillips or Joaquin Phoenix are contracted.

• March 6, 2020: Joker ends with $335 million domestically and over $1 billion worldwide.

• August 22, 2020: Walter Hamada confirms there will be more Elseworlds films.

• October 5, 2021: Joaquin Phoenix is open to sequel but is unsure if it will ever happen.

• June 7, 2022: The film is officially in the works. Titled Joker: Folie à Deux.

• June 14, 2022: Lady Gaga joins the film. It will be... a musical?

• July 20, 2022: Joaquin Phoenix will get $20 million for the film.

• August 4, 2022: Gaga confirmed. Set for October 4, 2024 release date.

• April 6, 2023: Filming wraps.

• December 11, 2023: The film is finished.

• February 14, 2024: Cinematographer states it's not a full-on musical. Whatever that means

• February 21, 2024: The budget massively increased to $200 million. Gaga will get $12 million.

• February 29, 2024: It's set to debut in Venice.

• March 22, 2024: A jukebox musical.

• April 10, 2024: Official teaser trailer.

• April 11, 2024: The teaser got 167 million views in 24 hours.

• July 23, 2024: Official trailer.

• August 20, 2024: Todd Phillips debunks the $200 million budget, although he still says it cost far more than the original.

• August 30, 2024: Box Office Theory projects a $120-$150 million opening weekend.

• September 4, 2024: It premiered at Venice and... it's not looking good.

• September 9, 2024: Tickets on sale.

• September 9, 2024: The early numbers are bad.

• September 11, 2024: Pre-sales not off to a great star. A $60 million debut is not guaranteed.

• September 11, 2024: Pre-sales point to just $4.91 million in previews.

• September 12, 2024: Opening weekend projected at $70+ million.

• September 12, 2024: If the film is a musical, why is WB trying to hide that aspect?

• September 16, 2024: Latest NRG report drops the projections to $68 million opening weekend.

• September 23, 2024: It will release in China.

• September 29, 2024: Pre-sales are now roughly as Dial of Destiny and The Flash.

• October 1, 2024: It's falling off a cliff, getting into yikes territory.

• October 1, 2024: In South Korea, the film debuted with the worst word of mouth for a blockbuster.

• October 1, 2024: Looks like it might debut with just $80 million overseas, far below the original.

• October 1, 2024: Todd Phillips says he is done with DC.

[dudalb]

50 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

I feel like Phillips probably has enough clout that this movie won’t be enough to put him in director’s jail.

Agree, but he might go back to Hangover level budgets until he gets another hit.

[Opium]

2 hours ago, SpiderByte said:

There was a very real time immediately after Star is Born where she was believed to be a big draw and it just...has not panned out since.

 

[dudalb]

I think it is too soon to write off Lady Gaga's film career...but don't know if  I would attribute the gross of the Guicci film to her alone.

[HummingLemon496]

I don't do number data tracking but I'm guessing weekdays will look like this:

 

Monday: ~1.1M

Tuesday: ~1.5M

Wednesday: ~0.9M

Thursday: ~0.8M

 

$5.4-5.6M weekend

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by HummingLemon496

[Mojoguy]

8 minutes ago, HummingLemon496 said:

I don't do number data tracking but I'm guessing weekdays will look like this:

 

Monday: ~1.1M

Tuesday: ~1.5M

Wednesday: ~0.9M

Thursday: ~0.8M

 

$5.4-5.6M weekend

 

 

Dang, that would be bad for Joker.

[HummingLemon496]

5 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

Dang, that would be bad for Joker.

Idk I think it'll be higher than that but that's just my gut feeling

[THUNDER BIRD]

19 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

Dang, that would be bad for Joker.

What is going good for Joker anyways.

[WebSurfer]

Guess I'll repeat it here.

 

It looks like this and Wild Robot will be battling for #2 this weekend while Terrifier 3 dominates.

[THUNDER BIRD]

 

[Belakor]

lmao

[Mad Max007]

1 hour ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

 

Same energy

[Firepower]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13933745/lady-gaga-joker-2-shock-poor-reaction-flop-joaquin-phoenix.html

[wattage]

13 hours ago, dudalb said:

Agree, but he might go back to Hangover level budgets until he gets another hit.

They're gonna put him back in the comedy mines and that was the exchange for them not throwing him directly under the bus. Don't be surprised if a Hangover 4 gets announced in the next 6 months. 

[lookingformovies255]

37 minutes ago, Firepower said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13933745/lady-gaga-joker-2-shock-poor-reaction-flop-joaquin-phoenix.html

This is so funny.

[lookingformovies255]

12 hours ago, Opium said:

 

The House of Gucci was an underperformance. Due to its bloated budget, it failed to make money despite its somehow respectable gross. Its numbers only seem decent in the context of the pandemic (but the bar is very low). It was semi-panned by critics and won a Razzie. Gaga also famously failed to secure a BA nomination despite securing some raves and precursor nominations. 

 

Gaga's only success remains "A Star Is Born," in which she basically played herself. 

 

After the Joker catastrophe, she will struggle to secure major roles.