The Marvels | November 10, 2023 | Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter

[JimmyB]

The social media reactions are meh at best. Im guessing an average critic score of 5/10 on RT and and RT score of 52%

[DInky]

2 minutes ago, Sckathian said:

Tag line was just more Marvel idiocy. "Lets make the tag line for our multi million dollar film based on a single comic book entry".

 

Like who do they think 90% of the audience even is?

 

Higher, further, faster? It's not a bad tag line and it doesn't move the needle one way or the other.

[SpiderByte]

9 minutes ago, Arlborn said:

We've been hearing for a while now that they couldn't do the typical pickup shots to fix a couple of things in post-editing (that are standard MCU practice and are already caked in the contracts I might add) because of the SAG strikes, therefore the only way to "fix" some parts of the movie would be to cut them differently or just cut them out completely in the editing room.

 

No pity for Disney though, all they had to do to avoid it was pay their actors fairly.

This is not true. Reshoots occurred in 2022.

[Issac Newton]

French reception....

Spoiler

Just horrible

 

[DInky]

3 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

This is not true. Reshoots occurred in 2022.

 

And in January 2023 but they may have needed a third round after the June 2023 test screening.

Edited November 8, 2023 by DInky

[kayumanggi]

14 minutes ago, Sckathian said:

Thats something at least. What was cut that you noticed?

 

The 

Spoiler

"They're coming."

part.

[judestar619]

31 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

 

That's what some fans don't understand. WOM and reviews are not fix-all. If there's very little interest (eg. D&D) critical raves and WOM from those few who were interested to see the movie  is not going to impact those who are not. They'll be like good for you that you like it but I don't care/not for me. 

 

Also, type of reviews and WOM matters as well. if it's basically more of the same (not perfect but fun, blast, stay for credits, charm, heart) even interested parties could delay the viewing cause it doesn't scream must-see. You need Avatar-like WOM (Holy shit I've never seen anything like this before) to pull a miracle and get disinterested interested. 

I mean reviews and WOM definitely did help D&D, it was tracking to do much worse than it actually did.

[SpiderByte]

The overwhelming consensus so far seems to be "fun but flawed": not as great as Guardians, but not Quantumania.

 

It sounds like a lot of people went in expecting something awful but ended up having a good time.

[John Marston]

 

 

So many “it sucks but thumbs up reactions” 

[Masketta Man]

2 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

So many “it sucks but thumbs up reactions” 

Can't wait to see them put the"it's terrible but it works" quote in the "accolades" tv spot.

[PlatnumRoyce]

18 minutes ago, Sckathian said:

Tag line was just more Marvel idiocy. "Lets make the tag line for our multi million dollar film based on a single comic book entry".

 

Like who do they think 90% of the audience even is?

Big fans of the first movie? "Higher/Further/Faster" stuff was included in first movie and became an online meme. Adding "together" doesn't confuse people. 

 

Think they always took interest for granted.

[Kon]

16 minutes ago, DInky said:

 

And in January 2023 but they may have needed a third round after the June 2023 test screening.

 

There is a point where they can't really spend more money, because the increased benefit will be little.

 

There is a reason why Quantumania has so poor CGI even although there wasn't any strike when they released this movie.

Edited November 8, 2023 by Kon

[Sckathian]

2 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

The overwhelming consensus so far seems to be "fun but flawed": not as great as Guardians, but not Quantumania.

I mean this is not a set of goals that are difficult to fit between.

[DInky]

Just now, Kon said:

 

There is a point where they can't really spend more money, because the benefit will be little.

 

There is a reason why Quantumania has so bad CGI even although there wasn't any strike when they released this movie.

 

 

The reason why the VFX looked shoddy was that Marvel switched the dates of Quantumania and The Marvels which meant Quantumania's post-production schedule got cut short by 4.5 months.

[ThomasNicole]

French reviews are horrible, 2.6/5 on Allocine and still early so it can drop and match Quantumania’s 2.3/5 

 

French audience reception also horrible, similar to a C cinemascore 

 

Korean audience reception horrible and worse than Quantumania

[TommyOliver]

23 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

So many “it sucks but thumbs up reactions” 

Seems a lot of folks want to treat Disney/Marvel with the cushiest pair of kid gloves they can find.

[Mulder]

1 minute ago, ThomasNicole said:

French reviews are horrible, 2.6/5 on Allocine and still early so it can drop and match Quantumania’s 2.3/5 

 

French audience reception also horrible, similar to a C cinemascore 

 

Korean audience reception horrible and worse than Quantumania

Yeah not sensing that WOM'll be good here.

[ThomasNicole]

2 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Yeah not sensing that WOM'll be good here.

Yeah, fully expecting another B+ / B on CS

 

The 6th MCU project in the past 2 years to be in this range, really dreadful situation compared to the piles of glowing A’s of an entire decade 

 

 

Edited November 8, 2023 by ThomasNicole

[Mulder]

1 minute ago, ThomasNicole said:

Yeah, fully expecting another B+ / B on CS

 

The 6th MCU project in the past 2 years to be in this range, really dreadful situation compared to the piles of glowing A’s of an entire decade 

 

 

This one especially imo had to be great. The problem with relying on the good WOMs for Wakanda Forever and GoTG Vol 3 is both in their own way felt like finales (Though GoTG Vol 3 was more intended as one than WF). As has been discussed ad nauseum, the new stuff and stuff meant to set up the future is just not hitting with people since Shang-Chi. I don't want to doompost too much in here, but even with GoTG Vol 3's excellent performance, I think this year'll be looked back on as the end for the MCU.

[SpiderByte]

9 minutes ago, Firepower said:

Mendelson loves to drop unpopular takes, so I'd fully expect it to be below 50% on RT, even with all "diversity, black woman director" excuses.

But this review is mostly in line with the others. It doesn't really seem like contrarianism