Top 100 Sci-Fi movies. No Superhero movies are allowed. Deadline is February 29th

[Kalo]

8 hours ago, Tower said:

If you are excluding Guardian Of The Galaxy or Man Of Steel, you are basically just doing that because of the source material, because the contents of the films are definitely Sci-Fi. Sci-Fi and and superhero are not mutually exclusive categories any more than horror and mystery or action and comedy.

But almost every Superhero film has a scif-fi element, even Birds of Prey has a sci-fi element. the only ones that don't are The Dark Knight Trilogy, The Punisher (I think) and Kick-Ass (that I can think of). I just think it should be all (with Sci-fi elements) or nothing, but there will most likely be ALOT of Superhero films on this list if they are.

[Barnack]

9 minutes ago, Kalo said:

sci-fi element. the only ones that don't are The Dark Knight Trilogy,

Outside being they flirt a lot on the genre if not fully embracing it, Dark Knight for example exploring what people thinking of themselves as good will be tempted to do with the will come soon global spying on citizen capability.

 

http://web.isanet.org/Web/Conferences/ISSS Austin 2014/Archive/a0c45e32-283d-4c38-80f2-b1b43a13be9e.pdf

 

Dark knight rises is the exploration of the socialist revolution (lot of sci-fi are what if social/political change).

 

Punisher and Kick-Ass are 2 good one.

[MrGlass2]

18 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Outside being they flirt a lot on the genre if not fully embracing it, Dark Knight for example exploring what people thinking of themselves as good will be tempted to do with the will come soon global spying on citizen capability.

 

http://web.isanet.org/Web/Conferences/ISSS Austin 2014/Archive/a0c45e32-283d-4c38-80f2-b1b43a13be9e.pdf

 

Dark knight rises is the exploration of the socialist revolution (lot of sci-fi are what if social/political change).

 

Punisher and Kick-Ass are 2 good one.

Well that really doesn't make any kind of sense. Now movies are science-fiction when they touch on modern mass surveillance or a "socialist revolution" (whether that is what TDKR was about or not), because those are things that actual science fiction works could also be about?

Edited February 11, 2020 by MrGlass2

[Barnack]

4 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:

Now movies are science-fiction when they touch on modern mass surveillance

Dark Knight extend the capacity and explore a little bit how different would use it (and if the audience, i.e. the population would agree with it).

 

But it does not take that much place in the movie (versus how much place a movie like Her give to the Sci-fi) or necessarily go that interesting on it.

 

5 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:

a "socialist revolution" (whether that is what TDKR was about or not)

Seem to be clearly a what if the french socialist revolution set in modern day Gotham no ?

[MrGlass2]

1 minute ago, Barnack said:

no ?

Not really interested in debating the true meaning of TDKR because this is way off-topic. On topic, science-fiction stories can be interpreted as allegories for any or all contemporary issues. That doesn't mean that everything is science-fiction or "flirting" with science-fiction. No need to nitpick everything all the time, especially in this case where there isn't some Academy jury that will decide officially what is science-fiction or not; just need to know the rules for this top 100 ranking. Hopefully nobody will argue that TDKR should be included in a list of science-fiction movies.

[rukaio101]

I feel like the 'One Movie per Franchise' rule seems like a good compromise for this situation, in terms of stopping the list from being dominated by Superhero movies/Star Wars, while also not shutting them out entirely. 

[Madhuvan]

1. Inception 

2. Star wars 

3. Empire Strikes Back

4. Jurrasic Park

5. Return of the Jedi

6. Revenge of the Sith

7. Interstellar 

8. Predestination 

9. Gravity 

10. 2001: A Space Odyssey 

11 Terminator 

12. Terminator 2

13. Alien

14. Avatar

15. Aliens

16. Blade Runner 

17. Ad Astra

18. The Martian

19. Back To The Future 

20. Back to the Future 2

 

[Madhuvan]

21. Arrival

22. Avengers Endgame 

23. Annihilation 

24.Ex Machina

25. Gattaca

26. Edge of Tomorrow 

27. Avengers Infinity war 

28. Looper

29. Children of Men

30. War of the Planet of apes

31. Rise of the Planet of Apes

32. Black Panther

33. Iron Man

34. Captain America :The first Avenger

35. Looper

36. Minority Report

37. The Thing (1982)

38. Total Recall

 

[Madhuvan]

@Inceptionzq I have included Superhero movies in the list.

You can neglect them if you want while assessing result. 

[Inceptionzq]

The poll has been up for more than 24 hours. So I’ll close it now. As Zeesoh pointed out below, it was 13 vs 10 for no vs yes to Superhero movies. 8 vs 15 for Star Wars movies. So only Star Wars movies will be allowed on lists. And don’t feel obligated to include Star Wars movies in your list even if they would make your top 100.

Edited February 11, 2020 by Inceptionzq

[Cooper Legion]

Cool.  
 

There are some more intellectual definitions worthy of some merit, but at a basic level I associate Sci-fi with aliens, outer space/other planets , A.I., and and time travel. At a first pass, the only MCU movies I’m likely to consider are Gotg1&2, and Avengers 3&4.

[Cooper Legion]

I’m actually really looking forward to the results since I love good time travel movies but it can be difficult to gauge beforehand whether a time travel movie will have logically functional time travel va being a total incoherent mess. At least without totally spoiling yourself.

[Madhuvan]

6 minutes ago, Arendelle Legion said:

I’m actually really looking forward to the results since I love good time travel movies but it can be difficult to gauge beforehand whether a time travel movie will have logically functional time travel va being a total incoherent mess. At least without totally spoiling yourself.

Watch Predestination. 

 

[Madhuvan]

I will watch more movies if I can. 

 

I don't like Matrix much that's why they are not in the list. 

 

Top 38 is sufficient as of now. 

Top 100 is very difficult to write. 

[Cooper Legion]

3 minutes ago, Madhuvan said:

Watch Predestination. 

 

Predestination will be high on my list     
 

Hard to go wrong if you adapt Heinlein (well, unless you screw up the core of the story, which thankfully they did not)

Edited February 11, 2020 by Arendelle Legion

[Cap]

13 minutes ago, Arendelle Legion said:

Cool.  
 

There are some more intellectual definitions worthy of some merit, but at a basic level I associate Sci-fi with aliens, outer space/other planets , A.I., and and time travel. At a first pass, the only MCU movies I’m likely to consider are Gotg1&2, and Avengers 3&4.

Ok.  So.  I guess that means Top 3 right now can be

 

1. Alien

2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier

3. Captain America: The First Avenger

 

[EarlyDeadlinePredictions]

Removing superheros I got about 55-60 high rated ones on my letterboxd so I think I'll just exclude them all together.

[ZeeSoh]

37 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

The poll has been up for more than 24 hours. So I’ll close it now. Star Wars and Superhero movies will be allowed on lists. If you think certain Superhero movies shouldn’t count, then please post about it here. And don’t feel obligated to include Star Wars and/or Superhero movies in your list even if they would make your top 100.

8+5>10  So No SH movie won the poll. I do think SH should not be included 

(but SW should) but its your call in the end. 

[Inceptionzq]

24 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

8+5>10  So No SH movie won the poll. I do think SH should not be included 

(but SW should) but its your call in the end. 

Wait yeah that’s true. So I guess no superhero movies and yes to Star Wars movies. Thanks for pointing that out lol

[misafeco]

6 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

Wait yeah that’s true. So I guess no superhero movies and yes to Star Wars movies. Thanks for pointing that out lol

Poll was rigged. Where was the "yes to superhero movies and no to Star Wars" option?