IATSE Strike Discussion Thread | Deal ratified

[john2000]

Just now, Porthos said:

 

All I am saying is that this appears to be the industry side saying they are close to a deal.  I've seen too many labor fights in my day to count any chickens until they've actually hatched.

 

I'd feel a lot more comfortable if it even hinted at any sort of sourcing from IATSE that their issues are being addressed (I'm aware of other news stories commenting on IATSE being "encouraged" by the direction of talks).

 

To put it another way, remembering that Variety doesn't have to exactly be lying here to still be influenced by who they're talking to.

 

...

 

Or to put it in an Old School Way:  Trust... But Verify. 👍 

agreed

[Plain Old Tele]

I can confirm at least that they negotiated until 11 PM last night; we got an update that said as much. 
 

As to the rest, I’m hopeful but wary. 

[grim22]

21 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

All I am saying is that this appears to be the industry side saying they are close to a deal.  I've seen too many labor fights in my day to count any chickens until they've actually hatched.

 

I'd feel a lot more comfortable if it even hinted at any sort of sourcing from IATSE that their issues are being addressed (I'm aware of other news stories commenting on IATSE being "encouraged" by the direction of talks).

 

To put it another way, remembering that Variety doesn't have to exactly be lying here to still be influenced by who they're talking to isn't a bad stance to take.

 

...

 

Or to put it in an Old School Way:  Trust... But Verify. 👍 

Pretty much this

 

 

 

[john2000]

2 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Pretty much this

 

 

 

indeed though deadline yesterday also said that  there is good progress and one of the sources was from IATSE

Edited October 16, 2021 by john2000

[HouseOfTheSun]

but but but what about that clown that said they had walked away from Negotiations LOL

[john2000]

lets not jinxed it

[WittyUsername]

Alright, so things are looking better, but we’re still not out of the woods? Got it. 

[Porthos]

8 minutes ago, HouseOfTheSun said:

but but but what about that clown that said they had walked away from Negotiations LOL

 

This is why you always get (at least) a second source before reporting something. 👍

 

(Collider Frosty when pushed later on said he "talked to someone who was involved")

 

To rephrase what I said minutes ago, Steve Weintraub didn't have to be lying in that Twitter post, just get bad intel that was designed more to influence public opinion than inform.

 

Also could have been burned by a bad source, but then we get back to always always ALWAYS get multiple sources before running with something (especially something that major).

[HouseOfTheSun]

16 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

Alright, so things are looking better, but we’re still not out of the woods? Got it. 

Ehh by the sounds of it it will be resolved before the strike. These things do not get resolved spontaneously and then a news announcement drops. It’s a slow grind with the details

[grim22]

26 minutes ago, john2000 said:

indeed though deadline yesterday also said that  there is good progress and one of the sources was from IATSE

 

 

Basically, until you hear it from IATSE, it's not a thing yet.

[john2000]

2 minutes ago, grim22 said:

 

 

 

anyways we will know soon enough

though in this case i dont think that its in anyones interest to play this kind of games

 

Edited October 16, 2021 by john2000

[Porthos]

4 minutes ago, john2000 said:

anyways we will know soon enough

though in this case i dont think that its in anyones interest to play this kind of games

 

 

 

(any, anyway "close to a deal" does not equal "have a deal")

[john2000]

1 minute ago, Porthos said:

 

 

(any, anyway "close to a deal" does not equal "have a deal")

? sorry ? i mean yeah of course

[Porthos]

Obligatory "first time" jokes aside, don't get me wrong, this is a very encouraging development, especially consider what could be happening today.

 

Just... I'll believe there's a deal when there is actually a deal and not a moment before.

[john2000]

1 minute ago, Porthos said:

Obligatory "first time" jokes aside, don't get me wrong, this is a very encouraging development, especially consider what could be happening today.

 

Just... I'll believe there's a deal when there is actually a deal and not a moment before.

oh , of course me too

[Porthos]

6 minutes ago, john2000 said:

? sorry ? i mean yeah of course

 

I was riffing on your comment that it isn't in anyone's interest to play PR games by posting the "first time" meme. 

 

To be more clear:

 

Is it likely that PR games are being played here?  Eh, probably not.  At least not at such a level as to blow up talks.

 

Is it possible that PR games are being played here? Oh, very much yes. Especially if there are remaining sticking points that the industry would rather not fold on.

Edited October 16, 2021 by Porthos

[JWR]

It's a matter of when we get this confirmed by IATSE, not if, in my opinion. 

[Plain Old Tele]

17 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

 

(any, anyway "close to a deal" does not equal "have a deal")

I was gonna make a joke about check swings but I shouldn’t. 

[XXR vs XXR]

I'm willing to sacrifice @Porthos to the IATSE gods for a deal by Sunday.

[Porthos]

3 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

I was gonna make a joke about check swings but I shouldn’t.