Fox20 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, Valonqar said: It's going to make 1B in a couple of days. I think 2 billion is happening China or not. How on earth it would make 2B without China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fox20 said: How on earth it would make 2B without China. 3.2x legs OS, 3.4x legs domestic. Both of which would be under TFA legs (3.6x OS and 3.78x DOM). Not impossible, just difficult/unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fox20 said: How on earth it would make 2B without China. You forgot that Endgame made it too. And Avatar. Remove China from their boxoffice and you still get over 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Valonqar said: You forgot that Endgame made it too. And Avatar. Remove China from their boxoffice and you still get over 2B. I don't think those are the best comps. Endgame had a much bigger opening and Avatar was a different experience. Your better comparison would be TFA which did $1.944B without China. Adjusting to current ticket costs, that would be over $2B. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, GoblinXXR said: I don't think those are the best comps. Endgame had a much bigger opening and Avatar was a different experience. Your better comparison would be TFA which did $1.944B without China. Adjusting to current ticket costs, that would be over $2B. A chinese release would guarantee 2 billion imo, anyways still A HUGE overperformance nonetheless dom legs should be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, john2000 said: A chinese release would guarantee 2 billion imo, anyways still A HUGE overperformance nonetheless dom legs should be fun. Sure, a China release would make it much easier but the question was $2B without China. Which is theoretically possible but unlikely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, GoblinXXR said: I don't think those are the best comps. Endgame had a much bigger opening and Avatar was a different experience. Your better comparison would be TFA which did $1.944B without China. Adjusting to current ticket costs, that would be over $2B. So we agree that 2B without China is possible. Doesn't matter what model. NWH has much bigger OW than Avatar but also leggy holiday stretch that Endgame didn't. Pretty good combo if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Valonqar said: So we agree that 2B without China is possible. Doesn't matter what model. NWH has much bigger OW than Avatar but also leggy holiday stretch that Endgame didn't. Pretty good combo if you ask me. I agree it's possible at this juncture, I just wouldn't bet on it. My expectation is $1.65-1.75B without China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, GoblinXXR said: I agree it's possible at this juncture, I just wouldn't bet on it. My expectation is $1.65-1.75B without China. Oh for sure. Keep expectations lower and then celebrated when they are exceeded. Doesn't Deadline do it all the time? Oh wait, they just can't do the math! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austyphoon17 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Hard to predict the future but can't see it getting to $2B (love to be proven wrong). Like it or not covid WILL have an effect in some markets. I think it'll cut off the legs in some European markets in the back half of its BO run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Jane Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I heard Endgame was top 18 of biggest presale in Japan,so I think nwh have a chance to enter top 10,for Japanese love for spiderman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bruce said: I heard Endgame was top 18 of biggest presale in Japan,so I think nwh have a chance to enter top 10,for Japanese love for spiderman If JJK doesn't go bonkers over there, maybe. Though Japan can always keep more than two movies on high run but if JJK ruled then, Spidey will not have bumper openings but it will have legs for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Definitely Spiderman might find its way to TOP 10 all-time Japan, but that need a Social phenomenon or cultural relations in Japan. Other than it's just not like a JC movies. So, ¥10B should be the biggest bid, anything bigger than that will need a great house-house WOM, a lots of press ratings &theatrical benefits that Sony Japan does not practice. And in this case, we are talk about a number higher than ¥17.3B, to establish it's name at TOP 10 all-time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: Spider-man: No Way Home Middle East Saudi Arabia - $5.25M UAE - $4.44M GCC - $3.2M Israel - $2.7M Turkey - $1.45M (937K admits. In normal ER times would be $3M range) Egypt - $1.3M Rest - $3.3M Total - $21.6M Will target $55-60M in entire region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 11:34 AM, Shanks said: So... This is my 'Its now doing at least those numbers' USA + Canada - 700m South Korea - 63m Japan - 45m India - 28m Taiwan - 22m Hong Kong - 15m Malaysia - 10m Indonesia - 12m Singapore - 10m Thailand - 8m Rest of SEA - 12m ASIA - China - 225m+ Middle East - 30m+ Australia + NZ - 55m+ Mexico - 50m+ Brazil - 40m+ LATAM (as whole) - 120m+ UK - 55m France - 35m Germany - 25m Russia/CIS - 20m Italy - 25m Spain - 20m Nordic Lands - 20m Rest of Europe - 20m Europe (As whole) = 220m+ [I expect this number to touch 250 or 275m here] OS - China = 650m Total - 1.35b+ (Without China) I suppose - we can now add at least 50m to Domestic, 20m to Middle East, 25m to Asia and leaving Europe as it is... we looking at 1.45B gross at very least. Some Territories that will go over now what I predicted - Mexico, Middle East, Brazil, India, SEA and Dom itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 @charlie Jatinder 600 mill os by sun ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) Top markets by admits during Thursday-Friday. 5 days weekend in brackets. Mexico - 6.8M (9.3M) India - 6M Brazil - 4.4M (5.2M) Russia/CIS - 3.2M (4.0M) UK & Ireland - 2.5M (3.3M) Indonesia - 2.2M (2.8M) South Korea - 2.1M (2.7M) France - 1.6M (2.1M) Australia - 1.6M Italy - 1M (1.5M) Edited December 21, 2021 by charlie Jatinder 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 What kind of DOM:OS ratio should we expect for the first weekdays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 Monday : Around $3,4M in France Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, Weird Alegion said: What kind of DOM:OS ratio should we expect for the first weekdays? you will have raw collection under your eyes mate. why bother with ratios? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...