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So for all the dooming about standard 3D, my question is, arent those seats mostly meant for the general audience?

A general audience that doesnt really do t-a month pre-sales, one dragged there through wom, who's heard that avatar 2 is best in 3d and will thus flock to standard 3d due to plf-related ignorance, sold out plf shows or an unwillingnessto fork out the extra cash, etc

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3 minutes ago, Toruk Makto XXR said:

@interiorgatordecorator F What's with the new account? 

 

erased cookies and got kicked out of the session, and  somehow cant remember what the e-mail I used for that account , meaning that even if I know the password I cant log-in

We could be up for some wild times, and I dont intend to miss out just because the "contact us" button wasnt working

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41 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator F said:

 

erased cookies and got kicked out of the session, and  somehow cant remember what the e-mail I used for that account , meaning that even if I know the password I cant log-in

We could be up for some wild times, and I dont intend to miss out just because the "contact us" button wasnt working

I can go into the AdminCP, find your email and password, and even change them for you if you want your access back. Will only take me a couple minutes.

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2 minutes ago, Eric Clade said:

I can go into the AdminCP, find your email and password, and even change them for you if you want your access back. Will only take me a couple minutes.

 

really?

would very greatly appreciate it if so (all I really need is for you to dm the email is, as I said i've got the password memorized)

I know its a bit of a weird situation (forgetting the email but not the password), but thanks

 

 

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On 11/22/2022 at 11:08 PM, Eric Clade said:

Avatar: The Way of Water Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-23 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 152 1112 26516 4.19%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 215

 

Comp

2.829x of No Time to Die's First Two Days of Sales (17.82M)

2.078x of Dune's First Two Days of Sales (10.6M)

3.106x of Fantastic Beasts 3's First Two Days of Sales (18.64M)

2.180x of Top Gun 2 T-23 (41.99M)

1.429x of Jurassic World 3's First Two Days of Sales (25.73M)

0.819x of Jurassic World 3 T-22 (14.75M)

Avatar: The Way of Water Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-22 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 152 1211 26516 4.57%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 99

 

Comp

2.816x of F9 T-22 (20M)

1.904x of Top Gun 2 T-22 (36.67M)

0.878x of Jurassic World 3 T-22 (15.81M)

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Avatar seems like a wildcard to me. 

To start, there has been 13 years since the '09 film. How many people are still interested?

 

Pre-Sales seem slow to start, but the original was incredibly backloaded. 

Buzz seems fine, and the film is going to rely on being lone in the marketplace for Christmas.

 

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On 11/22/2022 at 11:12 PM, Eric Clade said:

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-29 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 73 122 11535 1.06%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 26

 

Comp

0.185x of Sing 2 T-29 (1.8M)

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-28 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 73 162 11535 1.40%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 40

 

Comp

0.198x of Sing 2 T-28 (1.93M)

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2 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Yep ultimately public decides, and they are deciding. the fact that 3D seats are selling and not empty shows that audience wanna watch this in 3D, otherwise there are ton of 2D shows to go to, if audience just wanted to watch in 2D, they would be selling much better. 

We’re 3 days into presales: the public - ie the GA - isn’t buying tickets yet. We don’t know their preference 

 

I don’t want to keep going back and forth, as we’re way off the numbers topic of this thread; my point was that no matter how much Disney or film lovers want there to be high demand for 3D, there is a limit to how far people can be moved from their baseline preference, and attempting to push too far can have negative results 

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1 hour ago, Toruk Makto XXR said:

@interiorgatordecorator F What's with the new account? 

 

Had to put him down

 

22 minutes ago, Eric Clade said:

I can go into the AdminCP, find your email and password, and even change them for you if you want your access back. Will only take me a couple minutes.

 

Thanks a bunch

 

 

 

I will now proceed to like my own comment

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13 minutes ago, motionpic05 said:

Avatar seems like a wildcard to me. 

To start, there has been 13 years since the '09 film. How many people are still interested?

 

Pre-Sales seem slow to start, but the original was incredibly backloaded. 

Buzz seems fine, and the film is going to rely on being lone in the marketplace for Christmas.

 

How are they slow? Sales look strong across the board, albeit just scanning through things.

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On 11/22/2022 at 10:47 PM, Porthos said:

 

Avatar: The Way of Water Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

T-23 days and counting

 

 

Capped

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

0

142

19649

21338

1689

7.92%

 

Total Showings Added Today

4

Total Seats Added Today

718

Total Seats Sold Today

369

 

Day 2 Comp                   [USE AT OWN RISK DUE TO UNCHARTED WATERS]

 

   

%

 

Sold
Day 2

Total

Sold

 

Sellouts

Shows

Seats Left

Total Seats

Perct

Sold

 

Final

Sold

% of

Final

 

 

Comp

Dune

343.99

 

97

491

 

0/74

11158/11649

4.21%

 

2915

57.94%

 

17.54m

TGM

88.48

 

393

1909

 

0/257

34292/36201

5.27%

 

11474

14.72%

 

17.04m

JWD

180.26

 

222

937

 

0/158

21395/22332

4.20%

 

10966

15.40%

 

32.45m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Avatar 2's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

BONUS COMP FOR REFERENCE ONLY [WILL ABSOLUTELY GO UP TOMORROW]

JWD T-23

95.53

 

56

1768

 

0/179

22879/24647

7.17%

 

10966

15.40%

 

17.20m

 

Regal:        353/7309  [4.83% sold]
Matinee:    256/2671  [9.58% | 15.16% of all tickets sold]
3D:         1149/15634  [7.35% | 68.03% of all tickets sold]
PLF 3D:     954/7439  [12.82% | 58.38% of all tickets sold]

 

====

 

Switching to T-x comps exclusively, starting Thursday.

 

Avatar: The Way of Water Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

T-22 days and counting

 

 

Capped

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

0

142

19477

21338

1861

8.72%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

172

 

Day 3 Comp                   [USE AT OWN RISK DUE TO UNCHARTED WATERS]

 

   

%

 

Sold
Day 3

Total

Sold

 

Sellouts

Shows

Seats Left

Total Seats

Perct

Sold

 

Final

Sold

% of

Final

 

 

Comp

Dune

342.73

 

52

543

 

0/74

11106/11649

4.66%

 

2915

63.84%

 

17.48m

TGM

80.95

 

390

2299

 

0/257

33923/36222

6.35%

 

11474

16.22%

 

15.59m

JWD

180.15

 

96

1033

 

0/163

21792/22825

4.53%

 

10966

16.97%

 

32.43m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Avatar 2's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

BONUS COMP FOR REFERENCE ONLY

JWD T-22

102.87

 

41

1809

 

0/179

22839/24647

7.34%

 

10966

16.97%

 

18.52m

 

Regal:         390/7309  [5.34% sold]
Matinee:     278/2671   [10.41% | 14.94% of all tickets sold]
3D:          1272/15634  [8.14% | 68.35% of all tickets sold]
PLF 3D:    1044/7439  [14.03% | 58.79% of all tickets sold]

 

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T-x starting tomorrow (which means Dune will be leaving the comp box)

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2 hours ago, M37 said:

We’re 3 days into presales: the public - ie the GA - isn’t buying tickets yet. We don’t know their preference 

 

I don’t want to keep going back and forth, as we’re way off the numbers topic of this thread; my point was that no matter how much Disney or film lovers want there to be high demand for 3D, there is a limit to how far people can be moved from their baseline preference, and attempting to push too far can have negative results 

ugh guys, this is actually huge. You should probably expect sales to pickup when the GA starts buying

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1 hour ago, IronJimbo said:

ugh guys, this is actually huge. You should probably expect sales to pickup when the GA starts buying

This is why JWD is a good comp due to also being fairly backloaded and GA-skewing. But also it wouldn't really surprise me at all (and I kind of expect it in fact, even moreso looking at the sales distribution in the few comps that have weekend sales) if A2 was even more backloaded and GA-skewing than JWD.

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With regards to the speculation about theaters not adding 2d showtimes and trying to force 3d, looking at the theatres i'm tracking at, one theatre cut a real 3d showtime and added 5 2d shows and another theater added 1 more 2d showtime, this is just a sample of 10 theatres but maybe you guys have seen something similar as well @M37 @Porthos

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23 minutes ago, GOGODanca said:

With regards to the speculation about theaters not adding 2d showtimes and trying to force 3d, looking at the theatres i'm tracking at, one theatre cut a real 3d showtime and added 5 2d shows and another theater added 1 more 2d showtime, this is just a sample of 10 theatres but maybe you guys have seen something similar as well @M37 @Porthos

 

Nothing yet as of last night, but if theaters locally are allowed, I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen here as well (though this sort of thing tends to happen closer to release — at least locally).

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