BO Germany/Austria: Dune first 2024 blockbuster (3mil admissions)

[Poseidon]

12 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

Well, the opening was a near flop but obviously it's attracting small crowds now - with one more week of holidays it might well reach 1,5mil admissions total

It should be very close to 1,5m after the next weekend already...

 

Should be around 800k after this weekend. 
If it would do the same numbers like Alvin 3 5 years ago, it would add another 315k Mon-Wed and 335k over the Holiday weekend. Would put it around 1,45m.

[terrestrial]

On 28/12/2016 at 0:24 PM, IndustriousAngel said:

Germany's Top20 last weekend

As you deliver the top 20 charts I never (usually never) look into BOM's charts for Germany

(Austria gets it's own total, but no chart for the ones not knowing)

 

I just realised, that they have a few details not in the top 20.

Their chart is shorter, as the do not show all titles, but they show titles too small to be on the top 20 - depending on...

And it is in US$ = might be interesting for a few non-EU members here too?

 

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Germany Box Office December 23–25, 2016 (US $1 = 0.9564 Euro)

< Prev Wk Currency: Return to Index US Dollars Euro Next Wk >

TW LW Movie Studio Weekend Gross Change Theaters Change / Avg. Gross-to-Date Week 1 1 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Disney $5,462,966 -55.8% n/a - n/a $23,678,120 2 2 N Moana Disney $1,413,506 - n/a - n/a $2,434,212 1 3 2 Sing UPI $1,377,074 -49.7% 676 +14 $2,037 $10,098,067 3 4 3 Fantastic Beasts ... WB $959,506 -40.9% n/a - n/a $30,759,172 6 5 4 Willkommen bei den Hartmanns WB $663,642 -38.7% n/a - n/a $24,257,634 8 6 - Vier gegen die Bank WB $583,362 - n/a - n/a $583,362 - 7 5 Office Christmas Party Constantin $392,487 -51.7% n/a -380 n/a $2,873,024 3 8 N Allied PPI $350,413 - n/a - n/a $436,203 1 9 N Nocturnal Animals UPI $244,000 - 191 - $1,277 $255,363 1 10 7 Pettersson und Findus 2  Wild Bunch $195,844 -41.8% n/a - n/a $3,547,669 8 11 13 Finding Dory Disney $22,120 -42.7% n/a - n/a $34,971,001 13 12 12 Doctor Strange Disney $14,813 -66.8% n/a - n/a $17,354,659 9 13 23 Pete's Dragon Disney $522 +135.1% n/a - n/a $2,383,302 18

 

[ttr]

It should be very close to 1,5m after the next weekend already...
 
Should be around 800k after this weekend. 
If it would do the same numbers like Alvin 3 5 years ago, it would add another 315k Mon-Wed and 335k over the Holiday weekend. Would put it around 1,45m.

Mind if I ask average ticket price in Germany? Here in Finland it is around 10€-12€ (child-adult) for 2D and 3D some 20% higher.

[terrestrial]

1 hour ago, ttr said:

Mind if I ask average ticket price in Germany? Here in Finland it is around 10€-12€ (child-adult) for 2D and 3D some 20% higher.

Question back: you only have a span of 2€ between country-side and city AND adult children? Or is it meant 10€ in everage for children tickets and 12€ in average for adult tickets? I try to understand, not sure...

[ttr]

Question back: you only have a span of 2€ between country-side and city AND adult children? Or is it meant 10€ in everage for children tickets and 12€ in average for adult tickets? I try to understand, not sure...

My numbers are 10€ for child and 12€ for adult in the capital -region (Helsinki, Espoo, Vantaa). Probably same in other larger cities, but cheaper in the countryside (not sure, thou).

[zackzack]

On 31/12/2016 at 6:01 PM, IndustriousAngel said:

that's only 5%+ for R1 but 30%+ for Sing and 70%+ for Moana - wow!

 

IA: Where do you think R1, Sing & Moana will end up? 

[terrestrial]

2 hours ago, ttr said:

My numbers are 10€ for child and 12€ for adult in the capital -region (Helsinki, Espoo, Vantaa). Probably same in other larger cities, but cheaper in the countryside (not sure, thou).

I can only speak of my region, as the out of my head area is for the moment a black hole (headache - not alcohol related)

 

Here the prices at the weekend are more expensive than during the week, early showings partly much cheaper than later ones.

I looked through a big cinema in Munich, as it has a lot of varying films in the program

midday tomorrow - not a public holiday = workday, but school holiday - children under 11 years and middle to front area 5.5€

 

Same cinema and day, 8 in the evening, 3D Atmos, same king of seat, 13.9€, the better seat 14.9€

Today, Sunday, ~ 8 in the evening for the adults each price an additional Euro = 14.9€ and 15.9€

= normal length film, no extra for length or additional charges for online booking incl. in those prices, those extras are to add to the named prices

 

middlle to small sized city, somewhat 30 minutes + away from Munich, no ATMOS (and truth to be told, a rather bad quality in comparison to Munich standards in some of its rooms at least) front rows 12.5€ today, 3D, 8 in the evening, same film. The room has only few front rows, the majority are the more expensive ones (that was the opposite with the big one in Munich, only a minor part is the more expensive one) = 14.00€

Same cinema, children film at midday cheapest ticket, tomorrow = workday, but school holiday 5€ = for all ages

 

Tuesday is it probably cheaper, at least for the adults and later in the day, not idea about early viewings. And maybe after the school holidays are over also in general for children???

Edited January 1, 2017 by terrestrial

[Poseidon]

5 hours ago, ttr said:

Mind if I ask average ticket price in Germany? Here in Finland it is around 10€-12€ (child-adult) for 2D and 3D some 20% higher.

 

8,39€ in 2015.

[George Parr]

Either the estimates for Thursday/Friday were a bit too high, or both Saturday and Sunday were completely dead...

 

Here are the weekend estimates:

 

1. Rogue One 460k

2. Vaiana 280k

3. Assassin's Creed 235k

4. Vier gegen die Bank 225k

5. Sing 220k

6. Wbd Hartmanns 115k

7. Fantastic Beasts 115k

[IndustriousAngel]

drop- resp. icrease-wise that means:

R1    +2%

Moana  +75%

Sing  +34%

WbdH +44%

FB +20%

 

VgdB goes up by 275% but only had Sunday last weekend

 

Probably not a good sign for R1 but with holidays still in power it's got another strong week, very decent run!

[Poseidon]

2 hours ago, George Parr said:

Either the estimates for Thursday/Friday were a bit too high, or both Saturday and Sunday were completely dead...

 

Here are the weekend estimates:

 

1. Rogue One 460k

2. Vaiana 280k

3. Assassin's Creed 235k

4. Vier gegen die Bank 225k

5. Sing 220k

6. Wbd Hartmanns 115k

7. Fantastic Beasts 115k

 

No, thats just how things go with this constellation of holiday. Saturday/Sunday were even better then anticipated for many movies. 
Dec 31st/Jan 1st are just not the greates days for the movies, as everybody is suffering from hangover. 2nd-4th of January will be very big instead. Not as big as usually, because Germany got the first snow this year, well, maybe even in 3 years.

[terrestrial]

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"Assassin's Creed" #1 in Austria = 283.000 Euro total 880.000 Euro.

Only 5.000 Euro less "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story"  #2 total 3,2 Mio. Euro.

Nealry 850.000 Euro total "Vaiana"/Moana 171.000 Euro #3

 "Sing" , #4 161.000 Euro total over 2-Mio.-Euro-mark

#5 "Vier gegen die Bank"  122.000 Euro total nearly 400.000 Euro.

http://www.mediabiz.de/film/news/kinocharts-oesterreich-assassins-creed-loest-rogue-one-an-der-spitze-ab/414215

Edited January 2, 2017 by terrestrial

[George Parr]

2 hours ago, Poseidon said:

 

No, thats just how things go with this constellation of holiday. Saturday/Sunday were even better then anticipated for many movies. 
Dec 31st/Jan 1st are just not the greates days for the movies, as everybody is suffering from hangover. 2nd-4th of January will be very big instead. Not as big as usually, because Germany got the first snow this year, well, maybe even in 3 years.

 

But that's just it. Going by the estimates from Thu+Fri, Rogue One would have been at something like 420k already, yet Saturday+Sunday are supposed to only add another 40k combined?

The numbers aren't any different for all the other movies. In fact, the totals for Assassin's Creed for those two days are already bigger than the weekend estimate we got, did people suddenly retract their viewing the day after?

 

That's what I'm talking about. I already knew about the things you said fully well, the problem is that things don't match up. The numbers that occasionally get listed here as numbers from the individual days can't be actual numbers for these days, at best they are broad ranges that may be off by quite a bit. Else the weekend numbers simply do not match what has been listed as daily numbers.

[Poseidon]

The only actual number we have is 200k on Thursday. 

Drop on Friday, Dead on Saturday and New Years Day is usually very slow. It all fits.

Those estimates are based on some guys reserved seat counts. Should be taken with a big grain of salt. 

[Poseidon]

Oh, here we go. Some little Birdie tweeted me some actual daily numbers for RO.

198k on Th, 164k on Fr, 31k on Sat, 67k on Sun.

All fits and all went pretty much like expected after Thursday. Remember, Mark G.s first trend predicted 475k off that thursday number and he always predicts it looking at historical data. And he, once again, nailed it, as he was off by only 15k. 

Edited January 2, 2017 by Poseidon

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Rogue One	460.490	765	602	2.905.332	32.957.042	+2	3
2	Moana	279.649	606	461	797.957	6.451.770	+75	2
3	Assassin's Creed	234.152	487	481	466.624	4.959.631	-	1
4	Vier gegen die Bank	227.909	607	375	538.297	4.427.946	+261	2
5	Sing	218.694	650	336	1.581.588	12.954.447	+33	4
6	Willkommen bei den Hartmanns	117.905	548	215	3.098.062	25.020.910	+48	9
7	Fantastic Beasts	113.446	501	226	3.165.591	31.586.672	+19	7
8	Allied	47.530	301	158	157.140	1.311.314	+27	2
9	Die Vampirschwestern 3	29.640	476	62	242.058	1.564.934	+65	4
10	Nocturnal Animals	25.307	198	128	92.524	708.614	+25	2
11	Arrival (COL)	22.532	211	107	585.233	4.870.246	+29	6
12	Paula - Mein Leben soll ein Fest sein	21.182	117	181	111.197	871.355	+75	3
13	Pettersson & Findus - Weihnachten	18.937	415	46	603.565	3.703.763	-39	9
14	Office Christmas Party	17.883	292	61	380.485	3.122.644	-59	4
15	La pazza gioia	13.812	96	144	17.817	127.557	-	1
16	Florence Foster Jenkins	13.002	205	63	246.847	1.987.105	+59	6
17	Trolls	10.605	215	49	1.147.234	8.284.846	+62	11
18	Love & Friendship	10.404	75	139	13.079	94.482	-	1
19	Adopte un veuf	7.889	90	88	28.168	196.704	+54	2
20	Robbi, Tobbi und das Fliewatüüt	7.581	176	43	126.104	774.522	+50	5

 

A nice rebound from the dismal christmas weekend, despite Jan 1st being a rather dead day for theaters. Rogue One seems to have been hit hard by Assasin's Creed good opening, but it's now near 3mil admissions and will probably reach 4mil total. Moana made a bit up for the lackluster opening weekend, seems to be well-received and should sail past 1,8mil total in the end. Sing is chugging along nicely too, a total far north of 2mil is a done deal by now. And look at Willkommen bei den Hartmanns - up nearly 50% and crossed 3mil total this weekend, the surprise hit of 2016 (sadly, one of very few nice surprises in 2016).

 

Next weekend: Passengers has well-known stars but a difficult genre, 250k admissions would be a real success I think. Also opening: Korean history thriller The Handmaiden and a french comedy starring Omar Sy, Demain tout commence.

[George Parr]

15 hours ago, Poseidon said:

Those estimates are based on some guys reserved seat counts. Should be taken with a big grain of salt. 

 

Yeah, well, that was the entire point of my post.

[FantasticBeasts]

Can anyone provide me details about the admissions numbers of the Potterverse in Germany?

[Poseidon]

4 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

Can anyone provide me details about the admissions numbers of the Potterverse in Germany?

http://www.insidekino.de/Y/YDuellHarryVsHarry.htm

[Noctis]

Overall, how would you say FB performed in Germany?