BO Germany/Austria: Dune first 2024 blockbuster (3mil admissions)

[Aristis]

It will probably have a higher OW (admissions) in Italy than in Germany It could still have a weekend of $9M and probably more than $30M finish. In Germany it's often about legs. I hope the falling trend isn't because of bad WOM but because of not being a movie that targets families that much...

 

800k is still great, what is so annoying is that no movie here breaks out as it does in countries like Britain...

 

Maybe Sunday evening will be stronger than prediced now and it can at least top 847.356 (FSOG2)...

Edited March 19, 2017 by Aristis

[miketheavenger]

Maybe it's because the original animated BatB isn't quite as iconic here as it is in the US and the UK? I don't know for sure, it's just a guess.

[George Parr]

I don't know about that. Beauty and the Beast was a solid hit in the USA, but hardly out of the ordinary. It finished 3rd of the year 1991 with 145m, Aladdin won the next year with 217m. In Germany, BatB won the year (1992 in this case) with a bit above 5m admissions, though it was one of the weakest years of that time. Aladdin finished second with 6.4m admissions the year afterwards. Sounds all rather similar, if not favourable to Germany.

 

Emma Watson does add quite a bit of attention, particularly in the UK. She is among the very top when it comes to followers on social media, I think. That doesn't have as much of an impact in Germany.

 

[Brainbug]

I obviously cant speak for the whole country but for example my parents watched the original BatB in theaters and love it to this day but they have no interest whatsoever in seeing the new film. Maybe a lot of people just arent that excited about these live-action remakes here than in countrys like the US and UK.

That said, 800k would still be a good start.

[titanic2187]

may not be as insane as in UK and US, but still an impressive debut

[Aristis]

So Disney says it made $10,7M OW. If that's correct and its Ticket Price is 10,5 and XR is about 1,075 than BatB should have made more than 900k, more like 950k... I hope this number is rather too low like it is in the US

[IndustriousAngel]

about 865k is the reported number, so at least best 2017 OW so far.

 

Surprisingly good holds this weekend despite the big opener; especially B&T4 which is reported with 160k, that would be just a 14% drop and that in face of direct competition from Beauty!

 

In Austria, Beauty had a big opening too, but not as good as in Germany.

[George Parr]

To give all numbers reported so far:

 

1. BatB 865k

2. Kong - Skull Island 200k

3. Bibi & Tina 160k

4. Logan 120k

5. Die Häschenschule 90k

6. FSoG 2 75k

7. Moonlight 65k

 

So everything either up or at least steady from the last trend

[Aristis]

Great drop for Kong! (-29%/-32%) I think Godzilla had nearly a 60% drop in its 2nd weekend (that's a huge drop in Germany, much more than it is in the US).

Logan falls a bit harder with about 40%. FSOG2 too >40%.

Great for Moonlight too! Without previews it equals its OW (included it's down 20%)

 

And this weekend is about 40% above last year

Edited March 20, 2017 by Aristis

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Beauty and the Beast	864.315	698	1.238	864.315	8.823.871	-	1
2	Kong - Skull Island	198.642	556	357	560.299	5.910.579	-30	2
3	Bibi & Tina 4	163.108	787	207	1.352.400	8.758.583	-12	4
4	Logan 4	122.691	638	192	822.796	7.552.497	-38	3
5	Die Häschenschule	79.964	410	195	90.121	584.938	-	1
6	Fifty Shades of Grey 2	75.691	498	152	3.302.861	29.545.500	-42	6
7	Moonlight	65.789	120	548	178.276	1.440.995	+0	2
8	Lion	48.211	290	166	341.727	2.850.805	-10	4
9	The LEGO Batman Movie	46.676	543	86	856.833	6.629.616	-6	6
10	Wilde Maus	36.902	105	351	104.145	785.149	-0	2
11	La La Land	33.913	491	69	1.590.007	13.602.484	-46	10
12	John Wick 2	31.335	349	90	771.079	6.761.028	-41	5
13	Sleepless	28.448	229	124	100.239	803.984	-35	2
14	Der Hunderteinjährige …	23.734	270	88	37.629	276.691	-	1
15	Hidden Figures	20.060	261	77	431.433	3.532.192	-24	7
16	Moana	18.238	295	62	2.103.821	16.021.233	+3	13
17	Der junge Karl Marx	17.370	206	84	129.814	980.275	-36	3
18	Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben	16.949	271	6	729.156	5.862.568	-39	8
19	Split	14.521	209	69	1.196.915	10.227.137	-44	8
20	A Dog's Purpose	14.228	221	64	129.274	946.490	-12	4

A fine opening for Beauty and the Beast and many excellent holds - a perfect weekend! Actually, there were two fine openers, as Die Häschenschule found ist audience, too - no small feat with all that family stuff in theaters! For us Austrians, it's nice seeing Wilde Maus chugging on with a fine PTA again! And a little surprise in the lowest quarter of the chart: Moana is not yet dead, an increase against in-house competition! What it lacked in opening, it made up in legs.

 

Next weekend: Two medium-sized hollywood releases - Power Rangers and Life - will probably fight for #2 behind Beauty, although I wouldn't disown Kong after this week's good drop. And domestic stoner comedy Lommbock might see some success with no direct competition from anything - Top10 should be possible in any case. So, another strong weekend in the making!

[el sid]

The Thursday estimates (insidekino.de/forum):

New releases:

Rammstein: Paris: 61k (a German band's concert recording, only today I think)
Life: 14k (starts in 470 theaters, good reviews)
Power Rangers 11.5k (427, mediocre reviews)
Lommbock : 14k (the sequel of a pretty popular comedy 16 years ago: Lammbock, 241, mediocre and good reviews)

Holdovers:

BatB: 44k (100k)
Kong: 8k (17.5k) – probably again underestimated
Logan: 7.5k (15k)
FSD: 4k (9k)
Moonlight: 4.5k
Wilde Maus: 4k

 

Everything not overwhelming but I would say in line with expectations.

[el sid]

The first trend from insidekino.de:

#1 BatB: 600k
#2 Lommbock: 155k (had more previews that's why it is in front)
#3 Life and Power Rangers: 125k
#5 Skull Island: 100k

We will see if the order of the Top 5 stays like that. Counted without the previews of the new releases Kong could stay #2 especially if it improves a little bit like last weekend.

Some Thursday actuals (source Blickpunkt:Film):

New releases:
 

Rammstein: Paris: 45k – I was wrong, it has also showtimes today (and gets a third day next week) but often around 5pm or very late in the evening, so this shouldn't hurt other films much
Life: 15.5k
Power Rangers: 12.5k
Lommbock: 12.5k

Holdovers:

BatB: 60k – so clearly underestimated yesterday
Kong: no numbers but with an projected weekend of 100k admissions it were definitely more than 8k

 

Edit: Only to prepare you: I wouldn't bet on any improvement of numbers because I saw the weather forecast a few minutes ago. Today it's mixed but the weekend is predicted to be pretty sunny.

Edited March 24, 2017 by el sid

[Aristis]

4 hours ago, el sid said:

Edit: Only to prepare you: I wouldn't bet on any improvement of numbers because I saw the weather forecast a few minutes ago. Today it's mixed but the weekend is predicted to be pretty sunny.

Yeah, the biggest threat for BatB isn't a newcomer, it is the weather - so is Germany...

 

I hope that 30%-drop won't get worse so it can have at least 1,7M admissions on Sunday...

Edited March 24, 2017 by Aristis

[Giesi]

On 24.3.2017 at 11:19 AM, el sid said:

Edit: Only to prepare you: I wouldn't bet on any improvement of numbers because I saw the weather forecast a few minutes ago. Today it's mixed but the weekend is predicted to be pretty sunny.

Unfortunately you were right

 

BatB (525T), Lommbock(125T), Life (110T), Kong - Skull Island (100T), Power Rangers (90T), Rammstein: Paris (90T), Bibi & Tina - Tohuwabohu total! (75T), Logan - The Wolverine (57,5T), Die Häschenschule - Jagd nach dem goldenen Ei (50T), Moonlight (45T),Lion - Der lange Weg nach Hause (35T), Fifty Shades of Grey - Gefährliche Liebe (35T), Wilde Maus (27,5T).

 

 

[Brainbug]

Weather is fantastic. Its pretty funny that i root for bad weather now every weekend because of the box office.

[Aristis]

1 hour ago, Brainbug said:

Weather is fantastic. Its pretty funny that i root for bad weather now every weekend because of the box office.

I wrote that too, a few months ago - Everybody thinks I'm crazy

 

Anyway, I forgot how great spring is - a beautifull day

[Aristis]

3rd Trend:

 

BatB 525k (-40%) I feared it could get worse... Still OK, good for the circumstances I think 1,6M - 1,7M cume. As I saw now it has the best drop (with Moonlight), so it seems to be very good! $5,5M weekend, $18M cume...

Lommbock 100k

Life 95k

Kong 95k (-52%) 700k cume

Rammstein: Paris 90k

Power Rangers 80k

Bibi & Tina 55k (-66%)

Logan 55k (-55%) Maybe near 900k

Moonlight 40k (-40%)

FSOG2 35k (-54%) 3,35M

Die Häschenschule 30k (-62%/-67%)

Lion 27,5k (-43%)

 

InsideKino

Edited March 26, 2017 by Aristis

[IndustriousAngel]

the longer the weekend the lower the estimates ... at least BatB seems to have a decent hold.

[miketheavenger]

2 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

the longer the weekend the lower the estimates ... at least BatB seems to have a decent hold.

Unfortunately the weather continues to be excellent, which hurts theaters. I wish we were like the US in that regard.

[Aristis]

Latest numbers:

 

BatB 502,5/1595 (-42%) BatB with the 2nd best drop in the TOP20 probably - so a great drop considering the weather...
Life 95
Kong 92,5/695 (-54%)
Rammstein 90
Power Rangers 85
Lommbock 65/100
B&T 57,5/1415 (-65%)
Logan 55/915 (-55%)
Moonlight 37,5/240 (-43%)

FSOG2 35/3360 (-54%)
Häschen 30/135 (-62%/-67%)
Lion 27,5/385 (-43%)
Wilde Maus 22,5/145 (-39%)
 

 

InsideKino

Edited March 27, 2017 by Aristis