BO Germany/Austria: Dune 2 fine 2nd weekend

[George Parr]

On 12/7/2021 at 1:30 PM, Samwise the Brave said:

The momentum probably. The exhibtion was in Potsdam close to Berlin for half a year, pretty successful. The 20th anniversary for the first book got celebrated as it came out 1998. And the both things mentioned got featured comparably heavy in marketing campaigns. That was the right time to release it seems. To be honest there is nothing stronger than the Wizarding World brand here. Middle Earth could easily pick up but there is nothing coming out right now. Only Star Wars can match it and Marvel can't (yet)

At this point I would say James Bond is the no.1. It's the only thing that can constantly do 5+ million per movie, with a chance for 6 or 7m admissions.

 

The rest isn't looking so hot. Animation isn't as gigantic as it has been in the past. Star Wars is big with its main movies, but not so much with the rest. Fantastic Beasts is a decend sale, but as with Star Wars, it isn't really a match for the main saga. 4m admissions or less is not nearly as big as the HP movies were. Outside of those, there are no Middle Earth movies, POTC has dropped a ton from its peak, while Marvel has been on the rise without fully being there yet.

 

If not for James Bond, your best bet for a huge hit are generally comedies or the odd animated movie.

[pepsa]

1 hour ago, George Parr said:

At this point I would say James Bond is the no.1. It's the only thing that can constantly do 5+ million per movie, with a chance for 6 or 7m admissions.

 

The rest isn't looking so hot. Animation isn't as gigantic as it has been in the past. Star Wars is big with its main movies, but not so much with the rest. Fantastic Beasts is a decend sale, but as with Star Wars, it isn't really a match for the main saga. 4m admissions or less is not nearly as big as the HP movies were. Outside of those, there are no Middle Earth movies, POTC has dropped a ton from its peak, while Marvel has been on the rise without fully being there yet.

 

If not for James Bond, your best bet for a huge hit are generally comedies or the odd animated movie.

 

Well even the hobbit that wasn't peak almost alway got to 6m admission or very close to it. As for movies with non main serie instalments it makes sense it woudn't be on the same level. I mean if bond had a spinoff that woudn't all off a suden not make Bond (the main serie) inconsistent I would say.

[George Parr]

3 hours ago, pepsa said:

 

Well even the hobbit that wasn't peak almost alway got to 6m admission or very close to it. As for movies with non main serie instalments it makes sense it woudn't be on the same level. I mean if bond had a spinoff that woudn't all off a suden not make Bond (the main serie) inconsistent I would say.

I didn't say that any of them were inconsistent. I said that Bond was currently no.1

 

There are no Middle Earth movies coming up, so they can't really be considered the top one right now. There are no main Star Wars movies on the horizon, just like there are no Harry Potter movies approaching. Only spin-offs, and those are weaker.

 

The last three Bond movies have hit close to 8m, 7m and ~6m. The last one probably would have been higher if not for Covid. Star Wars has missed 6m with its last two main movies. And even the last few main Harry Potter movies were more hovering around that mark instead of shooting past it like Bond did.

[el sid]

The second trend (a bit better for most films):

#1 House of Gucci 125k - only -11% compared to its release weekend
#2 Encanto 55k
#3 Clifford 40k
#4 Lauras Stern 30k
#5 NTTD 25k
#6 G:A 22.5k
#7 WSS 20k - reviews here in Germany are very good too but I couldn't find more than two online reviews (and of course some newspaper reviews); the marketing was really bad.

Edited December 11, 2021 by el sid

[IndustriousAngel]

Here in Austria, cinemas are re-opening today - with only Sunday and no big releases, it's bound to be a very depressed "weekend" but I have to say, presales are looking healthy for next weekend! As far as I see, Spidey will find a pretty "normal" situation, maybe a bit of reduced seating but it might still become a massive OW.

[LPLC]

What do you expect for NWH OW ?

[el sid]

The Monday update:

#1 House of Gucci 130k/330k total admissions
#2 Encanto 60k/237.5k
#3 Clifford 45k/87.5k
#4 Lauras Stern 27.5k
#5 NTTD 27.5/5.907.5M
...
#7 WSS 22.5k

[LPLC]

2 hours ago, el sid said:

The Monday update:

#1 House of Gucci 130k/330k total admissions
#2 Encanto 60k/237.5k
#3 Clifford 45k/87.5k
#4 Lauras Stern 27.5k
#5 NTTD 27.5/5.907.5M
...
#7 WSS 22.5k

NTTD 6M admissions still possible now ?

[el sid]

1 hour ago, LPLC said:

NTTD 6M admissions still possible now ?

With the help of the holiday saison I think it will reach the 6M mark.

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top14 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	House of Gucci	129.077	595	217	350.609	3.549.710	-8	2
2	Encanto	60.472	477	127	243.046	1.892.348	-5	3
3	Clifford the Big Red Dog	44.711	443	101	90.328	648.255	+16	2
4	Lauras Stern	28.234	538	52	29.678	212.475	-	1
5	No Time To Die	27.485	393	70	5.910.641	64.159.478	-17	11
6	Ghostbusters: Afterlife	23.991	502	48	258.908	2.297.785	-27	4
7	West Side Story	23.408	377	62	23.408	232.556	-	1
8	A Boy Called Christmas	18.645	510	37	114.563	808.761	-2	4
9	Contra	17.245	476	36	605.540	5.355.541	-1	7
10	Die Schule der magischen Tiere	16.773	472	36	1.421.770	9.852.187	-8	9
11	Eternals	16.211	286	57	761.569	8.064.478	-25	6
12	Venom 2	14.344	241	60	1.107.141	10.694.852	-13	8
13	Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City	12.901	361	36	72.724	635.134	-24	3
14	Happy Family 2	6.960	148	47	186.996	1.323.513	+143	6

ok weekend under the circumstances; family releases are already gaining their christmas momentum.

Next weekend: While in general the Covid situation in Germany is getting better, there's still regions with a lot of restrictions - which might soften Spidey's opening. But as we've seen with 007, a depressed OW can be counterbalanced later on by good holds. In the absence of competition, I can easily see a >500k OW and 2mil total, hopefully even a bit better.

Edited December 14, 2021 by IndustriousAngel

[IndustriousAngel]

update on Spidey: it's only opening tomorrow (rare for Austria, most movies have Thursday starts) but presales are MASSIVE. if this translates 1:1 to Germany, >500k OW are a lock and we're probably looking at a number closer to 1mil than 500k

Edited December 16, 2021 by IndustriousAngel

[john2000]

3 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

update on Spidey: it's only opening tomorrow (rare for Austria, most movies have Thursday starts) but presales are MASSIVE. if this translates 1:1 to Germany, >500k OW are a lock and we're probably looking at a number closer to 1mil than 500k

Mark from Insidekino think about 800k-1M OW and 3,8M full run.

https://www.insidekino.de/DProg/ProgDEZ162021.htm

fingers crossed

[Aristis]

Insidekino now predicts 750k WE and 900k including preview Wednesday.

 

Yesterday it had another 125k admissions and €1,3M. That means it should be around $10,5M after Sunday. 

[Aristis]

Just now, Aristis said:

Insidekino now predicts 750k WE and 900k including preview Wednesday.

 

Yesterday it had another 125k admissions and €1,3M. That means it should be around $10,5M after Sunday. 

My first post in like ages. I hope I can visit more often again but Corona really stopped me from doing so... 

[Legion Again]

Aristis!

[Aristis]

7 minutes ago, Product Driven Legion said:

Aristis!

Thanks, makes me feel like I was missed ☺️

[IndustriousAngel]

even better news from Germany and Austria, Spidey's estimate goes up - very close to 1mil OW now and the same goes for Austria where a 100k+ OW seems possible.

Edited December 18, 2021 by IndustriousAngel

[titanic2187]

So even highly Covid-constraint German  give NWH near IW-type run! 

[el sid]

The final trend:

#1 NWH 925k - as mentioned above, in the second trend it were 950k admissions but it's a very good result anyway
#2 House of Gucci 90k
#3 Encanto 50k
#4 Clifford 42.5k
#5 Lauras Stern 22.5k
#6 Ein Junge names Weihnacht 17.5k
#7 WSS 17.5k
#8 NTTD 15k

Good holds despite this big competition, especially for the family films, some almost stayed flat.

Edited December 19, 2021 by el sid

[Aristis]

Monday numbers:

 

#1 NWH: 815k (4-day) 967,5k (5-day) - Easily the 2nd biggest OW of the year. The movie is already the 8th biggest of the year and the 14th biggest of the twenties. It already beat every other Marvel movie of the year. 

.	OW-Admissions	Theaters	Ø	Title
1	1.194.778	830	1.439	NTTD
2	815.000*	593*	1.374*	NWH
3	525.093	611	859	Fast & Furious 9
4	340.964	680	501	Dune
5	318.572	792	402	Tenet
6	291.542	554	526	Venom 2

https://www.insidekino.de/News.htm

 

#2 Gucci 92,5k (-28%) 487,5k

#3 Encanto 52,5k (-13%) 305k

#4 Clifford 45k (+0%) 140k

Edited December 20, 2021 by Aristis