Avatar :The Way of the Water OS thread

[Sophia Jane]

10 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

The "problem" with Avatar's run so far is that the movie sort of underperform in the giant market like both domestic and China for different reason, you can add Japan into the mix but to have the largest and the 2nd largest go against you will, you pretty much are screwed. 

For US is performance good,China is covid problem

[titanic2187]

Just now, Bruce said:

For US is performance good,China is covid problem

It still underperform, the domestic overall gross so far is only 30% of the total gross when China isn't in full potential, missing Russia and USD was at all time strong range. 

[Purple Minion]

 

[Mr Roark]

9 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

It still underperform, the domestic overall gross so far is only 30% of the total gross when China isn't in full potential, missing Russia and USD was at all time strong range. 

Regarding the US this sequel will have a better drop compared to the first one than TESB compared to SW 77 (original release).

Sometimes the Americans just fail to understand greatness, and history as usual repeat itself.

[Purple Minion]

Deadline

The full global gross to date is $1,100.6M, and of that, the international box office accounts for $762.8M, meaning that Way of Water will pass Top Gun: Maverick’s $770M offshore cume today to become the No. 1 international release of 2022 and the No. 2 studio title of the pandemic era overseas. 

Overseas, it’s not showing signs of slowing. France, particularly, is on a tear having reached $75M through Wednesday. Elsewhere, and not included in the totals above, China added an estimated $3.7M on Thursday for a running cume of $116M while Maoyan has again upped its projections for a final at $180M. Korea’s Thursday (also not included above) was an estimated $2.1M for a $62.7M running cume.

The Top 5 markets through Wednesday are: China ($111.8M), France ($74.9M), Korea ($59.5M), Germany ($52.1M) and India ($42.4M).

Edited December 29, 2022 by Purple Minion

[Hananova]

25 minutes ago, Mr Roark said:

Regarding the US this sequel will have a better drop compared to the first one than TESB compared to SW 77 (original release).

Sometimes the Americans just fail to understand greatness, and history as usual repeat itself.

What an absolute asinine and foolish thing to say. The og Star Wars was the most dominant domestic box office run of all times.

It was unbeatable, litteraly top 1 for near 1 year. The sequel did not as great, because it was impossible ( and is now even more impossible ). Adjusted for inflation, the first SW did $1.3 billion at the box office and near 130millions tickets sold. TESB would be at $740million and near 80 millions sold tickets.

 

On the other hand, with today's inflation and the fact that single tickets are ridiculously overpriced by comparison when it come to A2, it will not even bring half the people that TESB did in theaters, while the US/CAN population grew from 251,5 millions habitants in 1980 to 370 in 2021. Hell, if A2 does $650millions, it would still have sold less tickets than ROGUE ONE !

 

Avatar will never be as great, and will never feel as big as Star Wars, simply because less people saw it.

It's quite litteraly, simple as that. Also the fact that nobody talk about Avatar movies 6 months after their releases, that's why people say it has no cultural impact.

Scorsese warned us about it, he said that Marvel movies are theme park rides and not cinema, and I say that it's even more true for franchises like Avatar. These are movies with no flair and pathetic scenarios, who only have visuals for themselves. Except that great cinema is far more than special effects. 

[titanic2187]

6 minutes ago, Hananova said:

 

Scorsese warned us about it, he said that Marvel movies are theme park rides and not cinema, and I say that it's even more true for franchises like Avatar. These are movies with no flair and pathetic scenarios, who only have visuals for themselves. Except that great cinema is far more than special effects. 

At least Avatar is socially relevant as show way more sincerity and worthy in term of production value than many franchise offered out there. Also, to remind, movie is a visual medium and of course what we see on screen matters and Avatar delivered the Godfather-level kind of visual effect.. 

 

 

[setna]

15 minutes ago, Hananova said:

What an absolute asinine and foolish thing to say. The og Star Wars was the most dominant domestic box office run of all times.

It was unbeatable, litteraly top 1 for near 1 year. The sequel did not as great, because it was impossible ( and is now even more impossible ). Adjusted for inflation, the first SW did $1.3 billion at the box office and near 130millions tickets sold. TESB would be at $740million and near 80 millions sold tickets.

 

On the other hand, with today's inflation and the fact that single tickets are ridiculously overpriced by comparison when it come to A2, it will not even bring half the people that TESB did in theaters, while the US/CAN population grew from 251,5 millions habitants in 1980 to 370 in 2021. Hell, if A2 does $650millions, it would still have sold less tickets than ROGUE ONE !

 

Avatar will never be as great, and will never feel as big as Star Wars, simply because less people saw it.

It's quite litteraly, simple as that. Also the fact that nobody talk about Avatar movies 6 months after their releases, that's why people say it has no cultural impact.

Scorsese warned us about it, he said that Marvel movies are theme park rides and not cinema, and I say that it's even more true for franchises like Avatar. These are movies with no flair and pathetic scenarios, who only have visuals for themselves. Except that great cinema is far more than special effects. 

In its first run Star Wars made 220 million, this equals to 1080 M not 1300. Is still much more than ESB, but not so much. 
Star Wars first run is in the same league than E.T. and Titanic, the great difference is many re-releases very very succesful that made it the biggest success all time domestic, because numbers of GWTW are not too clear.

[Sophia Jane]

25 minutes ago, setna said:

In its first run Star Wars made 220 million, this equals to 1080 M not 1300. Is still much more than ESB, but not so much. 
Star Wars first run is in the same league than E.T. and Titanic, the great difference is many re-releases very very succesful that made it the biggest success all time domestic, because numbers of GWTW are not too clear.

no,Star Wars First run not 230m ,it’s include all re-release

[Mr Roark]

45 minutes ago, Hananova said:

What an absolute asinine and foolish thing to say. The og Star Wars was the most dominant domestic box office run of all times.

It was unbeatable, litteraly top 1 for near 1 year. The sequel did not as great, because it was impossible ( and is now even more impossible ). Adjusted for inflation, the first SW did $1.3 billion at the box office and near 130millions tickets sold. TESB would be at $740million and near 80 millions sold tickets.

 

On the other hand, with today's inflation and the fact that single tickets are ridiculously overpriced by comparison when it come to A2, it will not even bring half the people that TESB did in theaters, while the US/CAN population grew from 251,5 millions habitants in 1980 to 370 in 2021. Hell, if A2 does $650millions, it would still have sold less tickets than ROGUE ONE !

 

Avatar will never be as great, and will never feel as big as Star Wars, simply because less people saw it.

It's quite litteraly, simple as that. Also the fact that nobody talk about Avatar movies 6 months after their releases, that's why people say it has no cultural impact.

Scorsese warned us about it, he said that Marvel movies are theme park rides and not cinema, and I say that it's even more true for franchises like Avatar. These are movies with no flair and pathetic scenarios, who only have visuals for themselves. Except that great cinema is far more than special effects. 

Pay attention at the words you use.

 

You didn’t just missed the point while reporting incorrect informations, you even fail to understand that Empire benefited from an unreal hype coming out 3 years after the first.

Anyway it’s pretty obvious that the impact SW had on the western culture was miles and miles and miles bigger than Avatar, but that wasn’t the point. 

[GOGODanca]

@Brucedo you have the total international dailies for nwh on similar days? 

[Sophia Jane]

5 minutes ago, GOGODanca said:

@Brucedo you have the total international dailies for nwh on similar days? 

Comps with NWH is meaningless right now,Avatar already crush NWH at same time

We need to found the more appropraite comps

[CaptNathanBrittles]

1 hour ago, Hananova said:

Also the fact that nobody talk about Avatar movies 6 months after their releases, that's why people say it has no cultural impact.

 

 

6 months would be incredible compared to the 1 month of RISE OF SKYWALKER.

[Sophia Jane]

10 minutes ago, CaptNathanBrittles said:

 

6 months would be incredible compared to the 1 month of RISE OF SKYWALKER.

And don’t ignore JC flim is the global sensation,his movie is popular everywhere on earth,SW is just for Western people and Japan

[Hananova]

23 minutes ago, CaptNathanBrittles said:

 

6 months would be incredible compared to the 1 month of RISE OF SKYWALKER.

Honestly I agree with you, ROS is complete garbage.

Sorry I didn't even read the other comment properly, I just saw something slightly negative about TESB,  I snapped and made my account to comment. I have lurked this forum for a few months now but never expected to create an account lol.

My apologies.

[Sophia Jane]

NWH did 1368m after 3rd weekend

Avatar will do around 1400m+ after 3rd weekend

so is already beating NWH same time

2000m is locked,2200m and beating Titanic is new target,but TITANIC will have the global re-release next year ,so.....is the james cameron vs james cameron game lol,and also,think there will be three james cameron films in the top 5 highest grossing film chart(Avatar,Avatar 2 and Titanic)

Edited December 29, 2022 by Bruce

[Flamengo81]

1 hour ago, Hananova said:

What an absolute asinine and foolish thing to say. The og Star Wars was the most dominant domestic box office run of all times.

It was unbeatable, litteraly top 1 for near 1 year. The sequel did not as great, because it was impossible ( and is now even more impossible ). Adjusted for inflation, the first SW did $1.3 billion at the box office and near 130millions tickets sold. TESB would be at $740million and near 80 millions sold tickets.

 

On the other hand, with today's inflation and the fact that single tickets are ridiculously overpriced by comparison when it come to A2, it will not even bring half the people that TESB did in theaters, while the US/CAN population grew from 251,5 millions habitants in 1980 to 370 in 2021. Hell, if A2 does $650millions, it would still have sold less tickets than ROGUE ONE !

 

Avatar will never be as great, and will never feel as big as Star Wars, simply because less people saw it.

It's quite litteraly, simple as that. Also the fact that nobody talk about Avatar movies 6 months after their releases, that's why people say it has no cultural impact.

Scorsese warned us about it, he said that Marvel movies are theme park rides and not cinema, and I say that it's even more true for franchises like Avatar. These are movies with no flair and pathetic scenarios, who only have visuals for themselves. Except that great cinema is far more than special effects. 

You really created an account just to say that?

[LPLC]

13 minutes ago, Bruce said:

NWH did 1368m after 3rd weekend

Avatar will do around 1400m+ after 3rd weekend

so is already beating NWH same time

2000m is locked,2200m and beating Titanic is new target,but TITANIC will have the global re-release next year ,so.....is the james cameron vs james cameron game lol

I think the re-relase of Titanic will make $50M-$100M like the re-release of A1 3 months ago which made $75M, so maybe $2,25B-$2,3B after the re-release. A2 will not reach that but we can can hope for $2,1B-$2,2B

[MG10]

42 minutes ago, Bruce said:

And don’t ignore JC flim is the global sensation,his movie is popular everywhere on earth,SW is just for Western people and Japan

 

And not even all of the "western world" since in Italy and Spain it isn't particularly liked

[upriser7]

I am yet to watch a single StarWars movie

Edited December 29, 2022 by upriser7