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[Sheldon Cr]

Cameron has biggest sequel increase I think

T1 -T2

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[Flopped]

19 minutes ago, wboxoffice said:

 

I can only imagine what the reactions would have been if someone said “Britney Spears”. Lol

 

 

 

 

[grey ghost]

To be fair it gets harder and harder for a sequel to surpass a top 10 movie.

 

Basically you need lightning in a bottle TWICE.

[XXR & Friends]

4 minutes ago, jason1230 said:

Hunger games catching fire increased over hungers games, and they are both 400M+ that was pretty incredible at the time right?

 

Definitely impressive. That level of admissions with todays prices would be about $580-620M for both. 

[stephanos13]

Just now, grey ghost said:

To be fair it gets harder and harder for a sequel to surpass a top 10 movie.

 

Basically you need lightning in a bottle TWICE.

 

I am of the opinion if Avatar 3 delivers the goods it will make more than Avatar 2.

 

I am not counting China that will probably be in better condition come 2024.

[ZeeSoh]

5 minutes ago, Sheldon Cr said:

Cameron has biggest sequel increase I think

T1 -T2

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Nope. T1 to T2 increased a lot but it does not hold the record for either percentage increase or dollar increase. But it is in the top 10 for both of those stats.

 

For reference - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_sequels_by_box-office_performance

[Sheldon Cr]

3 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

To be fair it gets harder and harder for a sequel to surpass a top 10 movie.

 

Basically you need lightning in a bottle TWICE.

Well we know one man has done it Brother Grey, but they weren't sequels.

 

 

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[Sheldon Cr]

1 minute ago, ZeeSoh said:

Nope. T1 to T2 increased a lot but it does not hold the record for either percentage increase or dollar increase. But it is in the top 10 for both of those stats.

 

For reference - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_sequels_by_box-office_performance

Does it include ww brother Zee? Because I rem t2 made 1/2 bil. I'm taking a look.👍

[XXR & Friends]

1 minute ago, stephanos13 said:

 

I am of the opinion if Avatar 3 delivers the goods it will make more than Avatar 2.

 

I am not counting China that will probably be in better condition come 2024.

 

Definitely possible. I think if he tightens up the runtime and aims for a more concise story it'll help. As far as the actual box office I think it all comes down to exchange rates because WW-C-R I'd expect another 10-15% drop in admissions from A2.

 

[Grebacio]

56 minutes ago, XXR Krampus Claus said:

I'd be curious to know how many direct sequels to a top 10 DOM film actually increased over their predecessors. Off the top of my head I can only think of Endgame > Infinity War. 

 

EDIT: Maybe the LOTR films? I know they each increased but I'm not sure of their ranks.

 

 

Shrek barely misses it. The OG Shrek was the 13th highest grossing movie at the time and Shrek 2 surpassed it

[Porthos]

3 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

Nope. T1 to T2 increased a lot but it does not hold the record for either percentage increase or dollar increase. But it is in the top 10 for both of those stats.

 

For reference - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_sequels_by_box-office_performance

 

I'll grant Boondock Saints, but I cry foul here:

 

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Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle

2017

$964,496,193[8]

Zathura: A Space AdventureJumanji

 

Like, no... Just... no.

[XXR & Friends]

7 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

Nope. T1 to T2 increased a lot but it does not hold the record for either percentage increase or dollar increase. But it is in the top 10 for both of those stats.

 

For reference - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_sequels_by_box-office_performance

 

2 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

I'll grant Boondock Saints, but I cry foul here:

 

 

Like, no... Just... no.

 

Wolf Warrior 2 going for $870M only two years after Wolf Warrior made $81M is pretty nuts. 

 

[Porthos]

2 minutes ago, XXR Krampus Claus said:

 

Definitely possible. I think if he tightens up the runtime and aims for a more concise story it'll help. As far as the actual box office I think it all comes down to exchange rates because WW-C-R I'd expect another 10-15% drop in admissions from A2.

 

 

Not going "all in" on 3D when it comes to PLF (or normie screens for that matter) might help as well, at least in the DOM market. 

 

(actually of the opinion that A2 might be underperforming on PLFs in the States thanks to the insistence on 3D — but it's not a take I've fully solidified yet so only mentioning it in passing) 

[ZeeSoh]

4 minutes ago, Sheldon Cr said:

Does it include ww brother Zee? Because I rem t2 made 1/2 bil. I'm taking a look.👍

Thats why I provided the link lol. But yes it is WW

3 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

I'll grant Boondock Saints, but I cry foul here:

 

 

Like, no... Just... no.

Yeah I saw that too, thought it was quite a stretch to include that. 

[Joyous Legion]

38 minutes ago, XXR Krampus Claus said:

 

Found another!! Finding Nemo ---> Finding Dory

 

 

Down in real terms unlike lotr

[Moviedweeb]

All in all... if AVATAR 2 becomes the highest grossing film of the year globally and gets nominations for Best Picture and Best Director, that's pretty stellar. Hard to argue against that even if expectations were higher.

[Sheldon Cr]

6 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

I'll grant Boondock Saints, but I cry foul here:

 

 

Like, no... Just... no.

Heh heh brother porthos.

Wow brother zee , had no clue a boondocks film made such an increase. What the??!😱

[M37]

24 minutes ago, XXR Krampus Claus said:

I'd be curious to know how many direct sequels to a top 10 DOM film actually increased over their predecessors. Off the top of my head I can only think of Endgame > Infinity War. 

 

EDIT: Maybe the LOTR films? I know they each increased but I'm not sure of their ranks.

 

 

Doing this via simple sorts, so may be off a bit w/ placement as re-releases have boosted grosses

 

Yes

Probably not what you mean, but Phantom Menace & Return of the Jedi

... and then Revenge of the Sith (10th) and TFA

FOTR 8th --> TTT 9th --> ROTK --> 8th

Finding Nemo was 8th, bested by Finding Dory

AOU 9th --> IW 4th --> Endgame 2nd

 

Not Quite

Toy Story finished 15th, TS2 beat it, landing in 17th place

... then TS3 beat them both and finally cracked T10 (barely)

Shrek finished 16th, Shrek 2 exploded into 4th place, then S3 finished 18th

Hunger Games was 13th, Catching Fire beat it (10th)

 

Didn't Finish Ahead

Spider-Man was in 6th, SM2 ended up in 11th

TDK finished in 2nd, DKR finished at 7th (major * there)

Avengers was 3rd, Ultron finished 9th

Was RO a sequel to TFA? (finished 7th)

 

Did I miss any?

[Sheldon Cr]

1 minute ago, Moviedweeb said:

All in all... if AVATAR 2 becomes the highest grossing film of the year globally and gets nominations for Best Picture and Best Director, that's pretty stellar. Hard to argue against that even if expectations were higher.

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[Issac Newton]

5 minutes ago, XXR Krampus Claus said:

Wolf Warrior 2 going for $870M only two years after Wolf Warrior made $81M is pretty nuts. 

Next is Detective Chinatown Series close to it?

DC ($120M) → DC2 ($565M)