Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.

[Dephira]

6 minutes ago, The GOAT said:

Bring Back Michael Bay. He's already a producer for these movies.

The last Bayformers movie bombed too. This franchise has peaked, they need to keep the budgets Bumblebee sized for it to make any sense to keep making them 

[excel1]

18 minutes ago, 21C said:

Oh my god the copium is insane. "Twitter is not real life" Cinemascore doesn't get its result from twitter.

 

CS has had low grades on numerous leggy films in the past bud. 

 

It is what it is and I have no problem eating crow if I am wrong. This is a solid crowd pleasing film and is absolutely not the type of film that will just tank 70% in week 2 because everyone hates it. 

 

The film being 'moot' in the grand scheme of things yes, I suppose, starring an actor that people are not rooting to succeed likely hurt the opening a bit, but I for one think this finds an audience. I can see why it is positive on RT and scoring so highly in Asia. 

Edited June 18, 2023 by excel1

[Mulder]

4 minutes ago, excel1 said:

 

CS has had low grades on numerous leggy films in the past bud. 

 

It is what it is and I have no problem eating crow if I am wrong. This is a solid crowd pleasing film and is absolutely not the type of film that will just tank 70% in week 2 because everyone hates it. 

 

The film being 'moot' in the grand scheme of things yes, I suppose, starring an actor that people are not rooting to succeed likely hurt the opening a bit, but I for one think this finds an audience. 

Name one superhero movie that CinemaScore has gotten wrong. Go ahead. As of right now The Flash is the only DCEU movie besides Batman v Superman, a film with notoriously awful legs, to have gotten a B.

[Cap]

20 minutes ago, 21C said:

Oh my god the copium is insane. "Twitter is not real life" Cinemascore doesn't get its result from twitter.

 

 

 

[excel1]

2 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Name one superhero movie that CinemaScore has gotten wrong. Go ahead. As of right now The Flash is the only DCEU movie besides Batman v Superman, a film with notoriously awful legs, to have gotten a B.

 

To only people that have seen both BVS and THE FLASH - does anyone think they're comparable in quality to your average casual moviegoer?

[Mulder]

Just now, excel1 said:

 

To only people that have seen both BVS and THE FLASH - does anyone think they're comparable in quality to your average casual moviegoer?

Yes? That was not what my question was asking, you said there's plenty of leggy movies that have defied CinemaScore. I asked you to show me superhero movies that have done that. Stop shifting the goalposts.

[DC Rich]

23 minutes ago, excel1 said:

A few thoughts after finally seeing this movie in a PACKED Massachusetts theater. Premium theater which giant seats so it doesn't hold 400 people many more, maybe not even 200, but it was pretty much full, just about entire front section was full.

 

• Honestly - how many people here saying it will drop like a rock have actually seen the film? My crowd ate it up entirely, this was a classic Marvel type reaction. Tons of laughing throughout (ESPECIALLY the final 40 seconds of the film LOL at that entire sequence), clapping at end. There are a handful "fan service" moments and that's it. I will believe legs are a disaster when it actually happens. This is a very solid superhero film that the casual moviegoer will no doubt enjoy and I expect legs to reflect such. Twitter is not the real world. It is not "one of the best superhero movies ever" but I can see why some people are so high on it. The fundamentals of the story are very strong, the cast delivers in spade - Miller is excellent, as are the 2 parents in very limited roles. The 2 friends that I met up with two watch film were in full agreement that this is their favorite superhero film a while (though neither have seen Spiderverse or NWH randomly). This is the type of film that WB needed to be making and releasing circa 2015-2016.
• WTF are people talking about with special effects? Again Twitter isn't real life. Nobody in the theater is rewatching set clips in slow motion. I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary at all. The multiverse crap is clearly supposed to look the way that it does. 
• It is, however, 'modern DC' film. The concept is excellent, the execution is actually very good here, but the script could be a bit tighter. Can't help but think that, like The Batman before it, the story here is so large that it could almost separate into 2 separate films. The Zod invasion works fine but can't help thinking there could have been more here to make it more powerful. 

A- and fully expecting solid holds from here on out. 

 

 

 

[THUNDER BIRD]

1 minute ago, excel1 said:

 

To only people that have seen both BVS and THE FLASH - does anyone think they're comparable in quality to your average casual moviegoer?

 

10 minutes ago, excel1 said:

 

CS has had low grades on numerous leggy films in the past bud. 

 

It is what it is and I have no problem eating crow if I am wrong. This is a solid crowd pleasing film and is absolutely not the type of film that will just tank 70% in week 2 because everyone hates it. 

 

The film being 'moot' in the grand scheme of things yes, I suppose, starring an actor that people are not rooting to succeed likely hurt the opening a bit, but I for one think this finds an audience. I can see why it is positive on RT and scoring so highly in Asia. 

You're right, it won't tank 2nd weekend. 

 

It's already tanking in first weekend, there won't be much left to tank by 2nd weekend anyways.

[ringedmortality]

Every time a mod replies I'm reminded that this place is ran by generic twitter users

[JohnnyGossamer]

1 hour ago, screambaby said:

I was really down on Oppenheimer from the start but heck people  thru a fit when they thoight it was being delayed so I'm guessing it will be bigger then anything since spideyverse came out 

 

I read TLM will take at least 560 million to break even and that's not happening.

I'd expect MI to definitely be bigger than Oppenheimer.

[XXR & Friends]

1 minute ago, ringedmortality said:

Every time a mod replies I'm reminded that this place is ran by generic twitter users

 

Generic Twitter users with the power to ban people.

[XXR & Friends]

26 minutes ago, Relevation said:

What kind of second weekend drop are we seeing for The Flash? 70%+?

 

68-73%

[excel1]

Just now, Mulder said:

Yes? That was not what my question was asking, you said there's plenty of leggy movies that have defied CinemaScore. I asked you to show me superhero movies that have done that. Stop shifting the goalposts.

 

Don't talk to me about "moving goalposts" when you include the word "superhero" in your statement while that specific word isn't mentioned anywhere in my original post.

[DC Rich]

1 minute ago, XXRkham Asylum said:

 

Generic Twitter users with the power to ban people.

 

Not me of course but 

 

JK

[GOGODanca]

only 3 cape movies with sub A- cinemascore have had "good legs" and thats the first thor and venom movies

[Relevation]

1 minute ago, XXRkham Asylum said:

 

68-73%

Yikes, a second weekend of $13-18M. Elemental should probably beat that with a drop around 35-40%, right?

[druv10]

Just now, XXRkham Asylum said:

 

68-73%

Any update on the 5% increase you had posted earlier for Flash's Saturday jump?

[excel1]

5 minutes ago, ringedmortality said:

Every time a mod replies I'm reminded that this place is ran by generic twitter users

 

They have definitely improved from the fiasco last year. recognition 

Edited June 18, 2023 by excel1

[Mulder]

Just now, excel1 said:

 

Don't talk to me about "moving goalposts" when you include the word "superhero" in your statement while that specific word isn't mentioned anywhere in my original post.

Dude by default you can't just use generic 'movies' to show a point. Horror by default scores lower on CinemaScore, you can't compare horror films to superhero films. You have to work within the genre, hence why your statement was ridiculous. Either prove your point and show a leggy superhero film that got a B+ or lower CinemaScore or stop your trolling.

[ringedmortality]

Just now, GOGODanca said:

only 3 cape movies with sub A- cinemascore have had "good legs" and thats the first thor and venom movies

 

Why do the Venom movies have A- cinemascores anyway. It's not like they're super dark in tone or anything.