Weekend Thread (8/11-13) | Demeter 750K Previews

[MovieMan89]

Imagine if Disney had actually done the ST right rather than the hack rush job we got. Instead of IX being 2019 when they didn’t need it at all, it could have come out this year to raves and massive grosses at a time they do really need one of their top franchises to be strong. 

[eeetooki]

22 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

 

 

 

Shazam is like the most generic amongst generic superhero films.

[MovieMan89]

Levi never ceases to sound delusional in his statements. It’s really funny to see the star of Shazam movies talking about quality with blockbusters being the issue. 

[CJohn]

26 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

 

 

That Netflix Spy Kids movie he is in surely doesn't look like garbage at all, no sir it doesn't...

[BadAtGender]

37 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

2019 TBF was really a fluke that could never be repeated, it doesn't mean they're doomed though. 

It wasn’t a fluke it was a culmination 

 

But to just s completely run the well dry with no real followup 

[TalismanRing]

19 minutes ago, The GOAT said:

Is he alluded to his own movie or ….?

 

“We have to actively not choose the garbage. It'll help a lot.”

 

If so, mission accomplished.

[CJohn]

2 minutes ago, BadAtGender said:

It wasn’t a fluke it was a culmination 

 

But to just s completely run the well dry with no real followup 

They release four live animation remakes on that year. FOUR. Bob Iger went all in for his final year at Disney to be a monster of biblical proportions.

[MovieMan89]

Just imagine a holiday 2018 VIII that wasn’t a divisive “sUbVeRt eXpEcTaTiOnZ” mess leading to a May 2023 IX release due to COVID delays and A2 pushing it out of last holiday. The hype this year would have been so insane if they had effectively built up to the finale of the Skywalker Saga + pent up demand from the delay. If IX delivered, first $1b+ DOM grosser, without question.

 

And this is why Disney is flailing right now. Execs are Veruca Salt and want it now now now and have no vision. 

Edited August 14, 2023 by MovieMan89

[Squire]

2 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:

Paramount did screw up too with a terrible name for marketing purposes . . . 

What’s wrong with the name? How is it worse than Ghost Protocol or Rogue Nation? 
 

Or are you referring to the “Part 1?”

[ringedmortality]

You have to imagine what would have happened if Bird wasn’t busy making Tomorrowland and actually took on Force Awakens

[grim22]

1 minute ago, ringedmortality said:

You have to imagine what would have happened if Bird wasn’t busy making Tomorrowland and actually took on Force Awakens

If only he wasn't watching that South Park episode that one day.

 

https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/19/star-wars-how-south-park-convinced-the-incredibles-brad-bird-to-turn-down-episode-7

 

"What's really funny is that we were having conversations on the phone during this," Bird said. "And we were in Florida scouting and having to keep this a secret from everybody that we were scouting with. Because that's a buzz kill immediately. But there was this episode of South Park that appeared as this was going on and I was completely blown away. Because there was a shot from it - I even Tweeted you [Lindelof] the shot - it was Cartman and behind him was a lightsaber and in front of him was Space Mountain from Tomorrowland. And God it was happening right in front of me! It was like a super, unbelievable scene from a movie. Like I don't accept that at all. But it was happening right in front of me."

 

"So the moral of the story is 'What Would Cartman Do?'," Lindelof quipped.

 

[Deep Wang]

5 minutes ago, ringedmortality said:

You have to imagine what would have happened if Bird wasn’t busy making Tomorrowland and actually took on Force Awakens

Well, we wouldn’t have gotten Tomorrowland thank God

[Squire]

8 minutes ago, ringedmortality said:

You have to imagine what would have happened if Bird wasn’t busy making Tomorrowland and actually took on Force Awakens

I like to think that Bird would have started the trilogy off better than JJ, but having read the Art of the TFA book and consumed as much history about the making of the ST, it really seems all the key decision makers pushed what we got. Even by Jan 2013, the story had relegated the OT characters to the background and made Han Solo a washed up has been. They had no idea what the fans wanted. 
 

We never got one scene with the OT characters together on screen again. How do you F up that no brainer? 

[MovieMan89]

17 minutes ago, Squire said:

What’s wrong with the name? How is it worse than Ghost Protocol or Rogue Nation? 
 

Or are you referring to the “Part 1?”

Both. Dead Reckoning is obtuse and unapproachable outside of the film context. It even sounds odd to read or say. Anyone can get a solid idea of what those other subtitles could mean and they are appealing enough for marketing prospects. 
 

Part 1 is bad for box office. 

[Mojoguy]

4 minutes ago, Squire said:

I like to think that Bird would have started the trilogy off better than JJ, but having read the Art of the TFA book and consumed as much history about the making of the ST, it really seems all the key decision makers pushed what we got. Even by Jan 2013, the story had relegated the OT characters to the background and made Han Solo a washed up has been. They had no idea what the fans wanted. 
 

We never got one scene with the OT characters together on screen again. How do you F up that no brainer? 

Sequel trilogy was always doomed to fail thanks to this person

[grim22]

4 minutes ago, Squire said:

 

We never got one scene with the OT characters together on screen again. How do you F up that no brainer? 

 

I do wonder if that was ever going to happen, even if Fisher was alive for the final movie, outside of all of them as force ghosts in the final movie or something. Han was killed off in the first movie so all of them together and alive in canon may never have happened. It's weird that in such a fan service set of movies, the ultimate fan service moment never happened.

[Mojoguy]

3 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Both. Dead Reckoning is obtuse and unapproachable outside of the film context. It even sounds odd to read or say. Anyone can get a solid idea of what those other subtitles could mean and they are appealing enough for marketing prospects. 
 

Part 1 is bad for box office. 

Barbie Part 1 would have made $400M less than just Barbie.

[The GOAT]

49 minutes ago, CJohn said:

They release four live animation remakes on that year. FOUR. Bob Iger went all in for his final year at Disney to be a monster of biblical proportions.

Reminder: the inferior Bob was crowned Lead Executive of Disney shortly after Iger's initial departure. 

[Darth Lehnsherr]

None of the MI subtitles matter too much Tom Cruise made a good point that no one remembers these films by their name but rather what their big stunt was (which you could argue they overcooked the marketing for the bike jump in Dead Reckoning). But the Part One addition was a mistake definitely. 

[AMC Theaters Enjoyer]

Gonna go back in time to stop Tomorrowland from happening so we get a Brad Bird Star Wars and Joseph Kosinski’s Tron 3.