Phil in the Blank Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 So unless this Star Trek did roughly 2.7x more than the best OS performance of the last 11 ST movies it would had been a failure? Your a crazy crazy man. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Because 300M-plus is considered good for a $200M budgeted sci-fi action sequel. At same scales, both nonsequle PR and WWZ did it. Paramount marketed the shit out of it. They even did a one-month-long World Tour to promote it. Same group of people still dont want to accept the fact STID is big disappointment both DOM and OS. They over hyped the shit out of it. And now they celebrate it as if it were a huge achivement. you definitely bring up some good points. It looks like no matter how hard they try Star Trek will never be a huge performer overseas. Overall STID is not a big hit by any means. It barely doubled its budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Japan:$4.3m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 So unless this Star Trek did roughly 2.7x more than the best OS performance of the last 11 ST movies it would had been a failure? Your a crazy crazy man. None of those films had STiD, there is no comparison between STiD and a 20 year old film with a fifth of the budget. A film with a blockbuster budget making less than 250M OS in 2013 just isn't an impressive feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil in the Blank Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 None of those films had STiD, there is no comparison between STiD and a 20 year old film with a fifth of the budget. A film with a blockbuster budget making less than 250M OS in 2013 just isn't an impressive feat. ST in 2009 had 125M~, 3, 5, 10, 20 years ago it doesn't matter, ST has never been popular overseas. It has a stigma. Comparing it to another franchise and going lol only $230M does not do it justice. It is is not very good Boxoffice Analysis in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyla Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Star Trek Into Darkness boldly went into Japan and scored a $4.3m debut from 319 theatres. Overall the sci-fi added $4.5m from 489 in eight territories to reach $231.3m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 ST in 2009 had 125M~, 3, 5, 10, 20 years ago it doesn't matter, ST has never been popular overseas. It has a stigma. Comparing it to another franchise and going lol only $230M does not do it justice. It is is not very good Boxoffice Analysis in my opinion. It isn't just in comparison to other films, it's also in comparison to expectations, here's the WW predictions for STiD in the summer game: Neo - $815M iTz ED - $752M JackO - $750M TylerDurden365 - $730M druv10 - $720M Jake Gittes - $713M 24Lost - $711M c00k13 - $700M Simionski - $700M acsc1312 - $680M DAR - $675M Schumacher FTW - $670M Filmovie - $664M iceroll - $650M Punishment - $650M Iron Olive - $650M Fake - $650M Gizmo - $650M Sam - $630M Cmasterclay - $630M Glassfairy - $630M Michael G Scott - $625M The Stingray - $625M Blankments Into Darkness - $625M RichWS - $615M Newbie - $613M CEDAR - $605M IronMan89 - $605M Kayumanggi - $600M Vanilla - $600M Chasmmi - $600M Kitik - $600M ShawnMR - $600M grim22 - $585M baumer - $584M Telemachos - $582M narniadis - $575M Jay Salahi - $571M Dexter of Suburbia - $570M TLK - $570M CJohn - $560M Mattrek - $550M Goffe - $548M Tower - $521M junkshop38 - $515M ChFloppit - $485M laguy03 - $485M This is making less than all of those. Franchises can change how the market sees them if you make them look more blockbustery. The first three films in the Fast franchise made less than 110M OS (worse than ST 09), but it turned into a blockbuster anyway and this year made 550M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 It isn't just in comparison to other films, it's also in comparison to expectations, here's the WW predictions for STiD in the summer game: Neo - $815M iTz ED - $752M JackO - $750M TylerDurden365 - $730M druv10 - $720M Jake Gittes - $713M 24Lost - $711M c00k13 - $700M Simionski - $700M acsc1312 - $680M DAR - $675M Schumacher FTW - $670M Filmovie - $664M iceroll - $650M Punishment - $650M Iron Olive - $650M Fake - $650M Gizmo - $650M Sam - $630M Cmasterclay - $630M Glassfairy - $630M Michael G Scott - $625M The Stingray - $625M Blankments Into Darkness - $625M RichWS - $615M Newbie - $613M CEDAR - $605M IronMan89 - $605M Kayumanggi - $600M Vanilla - $600M Chasmmi - $600M Kitik - $600M ShawnMR - $600M grim22 - $585M baumer - $584M Telemachos - $582M narniadis - $575M Jay Salahi - $571M Dexter of Suburbia - $570M TLK - $570M CJohn - $560M Mattrek - $550M Goffe - $548M Tower - $521M junkshop38 - $515M ChFloppit - $485M laguy03 - $485M This is making less than all of those. Franchises can change how the market sees them if you make them look more blockbustery. The first three films in the Fast franchise made less than 110M OS (worse than ST 09), but it turned into a blockbuster anyway and this year made 550M. Good point. Some people just dont see (or are just in denial mode). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Good point. Some people just dont see (or are just in denial mode). Its like if you predict 1B for TDW and it makes 700M WW, is that considered bad, the answer is no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 It isn't just in comparison to other films, it's also in comparison to expectations, here's the WW predictions for STiD in the summer game: Neo - $815M iTz ED - $752M JackO - $750M TylerDurden365 - $730M druv10 - $720M Jake Gittes - $713M 24Lost - $711M c00k13 - $700M Simionski - $700M acsc1312 - $680M DAR - $675M Schumacher FTW - $670M Filmovie - $664M iceroll - $650M Punishment - $650M Iron Olive - $650M Fake - $650M Gizmo - $650M Sam - $630M Cmasterclay - $630M Glassfairy - $630M Michael G Scott - $625M The Stingray - $625M Blankments Into Darkness - $625M RichWS - $615M Newbie - $613M CEDAR - $605M IronMan89 - $605M Kayumanggi - $600M Vanilla - $600M Chasmmi - $600M Kitik - $600M ShawnMR - $600M grim22 - $585M baumer - $584M Telemachos - $582M narniadis - $575M Jay Salahi - $571M Dexter of Suburbia - $570M TLK - $570M CJohn - $560M Mattrek - $550M Goffe - $548M Tower - $521M junkshop38 - $515M ChFloppit - $485M laguy03 - $485M This is making less than all of those. Franchises can change how the market sees them if you make them look more blockbustery. The first three films in the Fast franchise made less than 110M OS (worse than ST 09), but it turned into a blockbuster anyway and this year made 550M. Given how much I love the first Trek, I played the conservative with my 548m prediction and yet, I was heavily disappointed by its gross. There's no excuse, Paramount promoted STiD the hell of it, It had the goodwill from the first, 3D and developed markets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Its like if you predict 1B for TDW and it makes 700M WW, is that considered bad, the answer is no? It cannot be considered bad if only you predicted that much, but if more than 50% of the folks here predict, like 1b or close to it, 700m will be considered bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Given how much I love the first Trek, I played the conservative with my 548m prediction and yet, I was heavily disappointed by its gross. There's no excuse, Paramount promoted STiD the hell of it, It had the goodwill from the first, 3D and developed markets that is the the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Its like if you predict 1B for TDW and it makes 700M WW, is that considered bad, the answer is no? 700m for TDW is not bad. less than 600m WW, I would call it bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 700m for TDW is not bad. less than 600m WW, I would call it bad. Not the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hunting Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 With that opening, where is Japan gross headed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 With that opening, where is Japan gross headed? $12M or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 $12M or so. "great", they say ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Star Trek Into Darkness has amassed $234m and stands at $6.9m in Japan after $1.1m from 319 in the second weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS: $236.6M Overseas Total / $465.2M Global Total. #StarTrekIntoDarkness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Probably the biggest disappointment of the year. Latin America and most of Europe let this movie down big time. Still a lot of work to do to get Star Trek to finally be a big player overseas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
