Barnack Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, IronJimbo said: Was there ever a time Hollywood performed better than the local market in China, seems like Chinese films have always performed better. They were, until very recently: https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/12/27/china-2017-box-office-wrap-up-hollywood-movies-grab-3-4-billion-universal-rules/#62b4c7f233eb Even with that growth, Hollywood’s market share in China was essentially flat compared to 2016, remaining at just over 40 percent. That’s a far cry from the days of several years ago when U.S. movies captured 50 percent and more of the territory’s box office revenue. China’s government film authorities have managed the market through import controls, release dates and blackouts that favor local films, and marketing rules to ensure that the Americans stay in their place at below 50 percent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Barnack said: China’s government film authorities have managed the market through import controls, release dates and blackouts that favor local films, and marketing rules to ensure that the Americans stay in their place at below 50 percent. This sounds scary, do you think they will try to cripple Avatar 2? Despite it's pro enviromental message (which China loves) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 25 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: This sounds scary, do you think they will try to cripple Avatar 2? Despite it's pro enviromental message (which China loves) Not sure how could say a way or an other on this, non free market are impossible to predict and arbitrary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 6 hours ago, KJsooner said: Post less you freaking doofus What did he say that caused you to react this way? Didn't see anything really offensive by him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commendable Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 If BP makes 100m - good. if it makes 125 mil - extraordinary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, IronJimbo said: This sounds scary, do you think they will try to cripple Avatar 2? Despite it's pro enviromental message (which China loves) The films deemed to be less appealing to Chinese audiences with a high potential of underperforming are the ones most likely to not receive theatrical releases. The surefire hits just have to ensure they don't get in the way of local films and it will be smooth sailing. Edited March 10, 2018 by Spidey Freak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, commendable said: If BP makes 100m - good. if it makes 125 mil - extraordinary. It would be extraordinary if it had reached 150, for example. I do not see nothing special in making 125. Ant-Man already did $105m 3 years ago. And Dr. Strange $110m. It is a standard run for a MCU film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoC Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 4 hours ago, IronJimbo said: This sounds scary, do you think they will try to cripple Avatar 2? Despite it's pro enviromental message (which China loves) Unless WoM is toxic, Avatar 2 will break out even if it has unfavorable release date. Will beat Fast and Furious for sure. But not sure if it can beat local movies. Movie goers in less urbanized areas prefer local movies to Hollyhood movies because of language/cultural barrier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLF Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 3 hours ago, peludo said: It would be extraordinary if it had reached 150, for example. I do not see nothing special in making 125. Ant-Man already did $105m 3 years ago. And Dr. Strange $110m. It is a standard run for a MCU film. Its pretty impressive because people were even debating if it would even make half of that since chinese people are prejudice against black people, especially black people with dark skinned. It just makes the star wars marketing department look even more ridiculous for minimizing finn so much in that poster. This movie will make more than TLJ in China. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 hours ago, YLF said: Its pretty impressive because people were even debating if it would even make half of that since chinese people are prejudice against black people, especially black people with dark skinned. It just makes the star wars marketing department look even more ridiculous for minimizing finn so much in that poster. This movie will make more than TLJ in China. There is nothing impressive to make more than Star Wars in China. A dog's purpose did more than TLJ. Maybe the expectations of BP were lower at the beginning, but at the end the result is average for MCU. A good result (there is not doubt about it), but nothing impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 5 hours ago, peludo said: It would be extraordinary if it had reached 150, for example. I do not see nothing special in making 125. Ant-Man already did $105m 3 years ago. And Dr. Strange $110m. It is a standard run for a MCU film. Behold the power of Marvel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, RRA said: Behold the power of Marvel! Those are the same amounts that DCU did with BvS, Wonder Woman or Justice League 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commendable Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I think the average run is impressive to be honest. BP breakin down barriers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, commendable said: I think the average run is impressive to be honest. BP breakin down barriers! Exactly, especially considering people thought its legs would collapse. 55 minutes ago, peludo said: Those are the same amounts that DCU did with BvS, Wonder Woman or Justice League You mean all 4 below ANT-MAN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, RRA said: Exactly, especially considering people thought its legs would collapse. You mean all 4 below ANT-MAN? I mean the same range. Similar amounts. I am not trying to start a Marvel vs DC war. That is absurd, annoying, tiring... If you follow a bit the Chinese market you easily see that it is always the same: 90-120 million for EVERY SH film, excepting Avengers, which are able to double that amount. I get that some of you are really interested in showing how strong BP is everywhere. But I would like to see some of you here when BP run is over to talk about China BO, not just because the film you support. The truth is that in China, Black Panther is another one SH film, nothing special. Is it a good result? Sure. Is it an amazing result? No. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, peludo said: I mean the same range. Similar amounts. I am not trying to start a Marvel vs DC war. That is absurd, annoying, tiring... If you follow a bit the Chinese market you easily see that it is always the same: 90-120 million for EVERY SH film, excepting Avengers, which are able to double that amount. I get that some of you are really interested in showing how strong BP is everywhere. But I would like to see some of you here when BP run is over to talk about China BO, not just because the film you support. The truth is that in China, Black Panther is another one SH film, nothing special. Is it a good result? Sure. Is it an amazing result? No. You're right. You should also understand that some people expected it to do worse than what it's done. Context here helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangsen Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, peludo said: I mean the same range. Similar amounts. I am not trying to start a Marvel vs DC war. That is absurd, annoying, tiring... If you follow a bit the Chinese market you easily see that it is always the same: 90-120 million for EVERY SH film, excepting Avengers, which are able to double that amount. I get that some of you are really interested in showing how strong BP is everywhere. But I would like to see some of you here when BP run is over to talk about China BO, not just because the film you support. The truth is that in China, Black Panther is another one SH film, nothing special. Is it a good result? Sure. Is it an amazing result? No. This. Exactly. BP is having a large opening thanks to the hype from America. Guests here — be proud. But don’t be so blind to admit this film is not striking a chord in China. That’s a fact at this point. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, jiangsen said: This. Exactly. BP is having a large opening thanks to the hype from America. Guests here — be proud. But don’t be so blind to admit this film is not striking a chord in China. That’s a fact at this point. At this point fans are just glad it didn't pull a SW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangsen Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, RRA said: At this point fans are just glad it didn't pull a SW. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it’s performing nearly identically to The Force Awakens. Hype is one thing but if you can’t land with the Chinese audience, good luck with the next installment. And FYI, not that it really matters, I’m an American and loved BP and SW. I’ve got no stake in this game. Edited March 11, 2018 by jiangsen 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commendable Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 46 minutes ago, jiangsen said: Sorry to burst your bubble, but it’s performing nearly identically to The Force Awakens. Hype is one thing but if you can’t land with the Chinese audience, good luck with the next installment. And FYI, not that it really matters, I’m an American and loved BP and SW. I’ve got no stake in this game. No I think it will make the same amount it is mcu after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
