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[Deep Wang]

That's not what I meant

I know what you meant. But seriously, that movie went from Matthew Vaughn to the director of Never Back Down. This is not going to decrease in critical praise or box office.

[John Marston]

I know what you meant. But seriously, that movie went from Matthew Vaughn to the director of Never Back Down. This is not going to decrease in critical praise or box office.

Critical praise staying the same maybe. Box office likely not

[Deep Wang]

Critical praise staying the same maybe. Box office likely not

How much do you see it dropping?

[John Marston]

How much do you see it dropping?

Probably to at least 80m domestic or probably lower. Overseas can potentially make more money if they pander to the Chinese market. Though it should drop in Europe definitely Edited July 4, 2014 by John Marston

[Dementeleus]

I'm curious, why do you think it will drop?

[grim22]

I'm curious, why do you think it will drop?

 

Because the reaction to the first was mixed among the audience. Because the first one didn't actually expand past the fanbase. Because the first did not have the legs that shows that more and more people discovered it in theaters. Because the first actually lost to Grown Ups 2. Because the first one has only been a topic of discussion on the internet and not among the general audience at large. Because a lot of people who checked out the first won't be coming back for this (my wife is the first among them, she told me "I hope TF4 is not as boring as Pacific Rim was"). Because it did not break out on HV either.

Edited July 4, 2014 by grim22

[Deep Wang]

I'm curious, why do you think it will drop?

I'm curious too!

[Dementeleus]

Because the reaction to the first was mixed among the audience. Because the first one didn't actually expand past the fanbase. Because the first did not have the legs that shows that more and more people discovered it in theaters. Because the first actually lost to Grown Ups 2. Because the first one has only been a topic of discussion on the internet and not among the general audience at large. Because a lot of people who checked out the first won't be coming back for this (my wife is the first among them, she told me "I hope TF4 is not as boring as Pacific Rim was"). Because it did not break out on HV either.

I don think WOM was mixed among the core base. Yes, it didn't expand beyond that, but that's not necessarily a recipe for doom. GROWN UPS 2 is meaningless in terms of talking about the sequel. I'm not expecting some insane expansion domestically, but I think reaching (or even topping) the first is not an impossibility. After all, the bar isn't exceedingly high.

[MrPink]

I don think WOM was mixed among the core base. Yes, it didn't expand beyond that, but that's not necessarily a recipe for doom. GROWN UPS 2 is meaningless in terms of talking about the sequel. I'm not expecting some insane expansion domestically, but I think reaching (or even topping) the first is not an impossibility. After all, the bar isn't exceedingly high.

 

In a less crowded market, yeah, reaching the first is not implausible at all. Just has to establish it as the big dog spectacle which can't be that hard in April unless somebody else moves there along with it.

[dashrendar44]

Because the reaction to the first was mixed among the audience. Because the first one didn't actually expand past the fanbase. Because the first did not have the legs that shows that more and more people discovered it in theaters. Because the first actually lost to Grown Ups 2. Because the first one has only been a topic of discussion on the internet and not among the general audience at large. Because a lot of people who checked out the first won't be coming back for this (my wife is the first among them, she told me "I hope TF4 is not as boring as Pacific Rim was"). Because it did not break out on HV either.

 

This.

 

Count me as "the people that checked it out and won't bother seeing a sequel considering how much it was deceiving for a Del Toro movie".

 

So if there are people that actually bothered for the first one who won't care for the sequel, that doesn't bode well for good numbers nor staying flat. PR was such a meh non-event for a 200M tentpole that doesn't warrant a sequel at all.(The end didn't feature a sequel bait and was self-contained as well)

[rukaio101]

Okay, I know we've stopped talking about the sword a while back but I'd point out that swords do blunt pretty easily, especially massive sized ones like GD's. It may not have lasted the entire fight had they whipped it out at the beginning (especially since the kaiju would be deliberately trying to counter/break it it). It makes sense that, like the plasma cannon, it's a weapon designed as a surprise finisher once the Jaeger has worn down the Kaiju enough with good old fisticuffs.

[Deep Wang]

Because the reaction to the first was mixed among the audience. Because the first one didn't actually expand past the fanbase. Because the first did not have the legs that shows that more and more people discovered it in theaters. Because the first actually lost to Grown Ups 2. Because the first one has only been a topic of discussion on the internet and not among the general audience at large. Because a lot of people who checked out the first won't be coming back for this (my wife is the first among them, she told me "I hope TF4 is not as boring as Pacific Rim was"). Because it did not break out on HV either.

 

http://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/bluray-sales/2013

 

13th of the year doesn't sound so bad to me.  Maybe not a huge break out, but this is just physical media, right?  There is no way to track digital sales is there?

[Jessie]

The Kaijus were great. You must have been watching a different film.

No I was watching the same film as everyone else, you know, that film a lot of people didn't really like?

[Neo]

Because the reaction to the first was mixed among the audience. Because the first one didn't actually expand past the fanbase. Because the first did not have the legs that shows that more and more people discovered it in theaters. Because the first actually lost to Grown Ups 2. Because the first one has only been a topic of discussion on the internet and not among the general audience at large. Because a lot of people who checked out the first won't be coming back for this (my wife is the first among them, she told me "I hope TF4 is not as boring as Pacific Rim was"). Because it did not break out on HV either.

Why do people say this? You probably interact with 100 people on a weekly basis and there are 6+billion people on Earth not the best sample size.

[Heat Vision]

No I was watching the same film as everyone else, you know, that film a lot of people didn't really like?

 

You mean the film that critics and audience gave it a good score. That film?

[Jessie]

You mean the film that critics and audience gave it a good score. That film?

Even critics preferred the monsters in Godzilla than in PR. And it's safe to that the audiences didn't care too much for PR going by the legs and HV sales . You may as well give up now Edited July 4, 2014 by jessie

[CJohn]

I am thinking on around 70M DOM right now, but the only comes out in 2017 so it is kinda impossible to do a prediction. 

[Captain Craig]

Interest level 2 out 10 for this.

The first was barely 5 o 10, it has a lot of work to do just to get me back to 5. 

[Deep Wang]

Even critics preferred the monsters in Godzilla than in PR. And it's safe to that the audiences didn't care too much for PR going by the legs and HV sales . You may as well give up now

 

So you can link me these critics and what they said?

 

Also, again, 13th in bluray sales in 2013, can someone explain to me how that's bad?

[CJohn]

So you can link me these critics and what they said?

 

Also, again, 13th in bluray sales in 2013, can someone explain to me how that's bad?

It is not bad.

 

But doesn't mean the sequel will do big numbers. The first Kick Ass sold incredibly well on HV and we all know how that ended.