Weekend Thread...Friday numbers (Deadline) HF: 6M| BBM: 5M| PD: 4.2| LLL: 3.97 (PG 18) - NOT THE PIRACY THREAD (OR THE POLITICS THREAD)

[Plain Old Tele]

53 minutes ago, Joel M said:

 

That's interesting because I always assumed that LionsGate takes back some money from their movies OS performance, at least the succesful ones. It's a really smart strategy for stuff like La La Land or Hacksaw Ridge to cover the budget because you don't know how they'll perform. But I don't get why you would sell the OS rights for New Moon or Catching Fire. I mean they knew those movies would do 400m OS, why they decided to make less money?

 

To cover production and/or marketing budgets. There's something to be said about a movie being profitable before it's even released.

[The Futurist]

Lionsgate/Summit sellts its right OS for the simple reason they don't have infrastructures in every country to release and promote their movies themselves like the other big six can, infrastructures that took decades to build.

 

So they don't really have a choice but to sell the rights to local distributors for each country.

 

 

 

 

 

[Joel M]

7 minutes ago, Telemachos said:

 

To cover production and/or marketing budgets. There's something to be said about a movie being profitable before it's even released.

 

OK, but the Hunger Games and Twilight sequels where more than sure bets. Didn't LionsGate/Summit made less by pre-selling them OS instead of keeping all the OS earnings for themselves?

[Joel M]

5 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

Lionsgate/Summit sellts its right OS for the simple reason they don't have infrastructures in every country to release and promote their movies themselves like the other big six can, infrastructures that took decades to build.

 

So they don't really have a choice but to sell the rights to local distributors for each country.

 

 

 

 

 

 Oh, ok. That makes sense. 

[Plain Old Tele]

6 minutes ago, Joel M said:

 

OK, but the Hunger Games and Twilight sequels where more than sure bets. Didn't LionsGate/Summit made less by pre-selling them OS instead of keeping all the OS earnings for themselves?

 

Aside from what Futurist said, if you're a smallish company, putting a couple hundred million on the line for one film is a huge risk, even if it seems a sure bet.

 

Another example: New Line presold a bunch of territories for FOTR, I think.

[baumer]

Pre selling for Fellowship of the Ring made sense though. New Line

Had already put all the money into all three Lord of the Rings before they had even released the first film. It's easy for us now to see that the Lord of the Rings were going to be gigantic hits but it was a huge gamble by new line to spend 300 million dollars on those three films before they even made $1 back.

[The Futurist]

3 minutes ago, baumer said:

Pre selling for Fellowship of the Ring made sense though. New Line

Had already put all the money into all three Lord of the Rings before they had even released the first film. It's easy for us now to see that the Lord of the Rings were going to be gigantic hits but it was a huge gamble by new line to spend 300 million dollars on those three films before they even made $1 back.

 

Yup, it was a huge gamble and all the bix six told Peter Jacson to fuck off with his crazy idea to do 3 films in a row and this even crazier idea to release them one year apart for 3 years.

 

That was the late nineties for you when the word franchise for a movie studio executive meant McDonalds restaurants.

 

 

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

How much does a film like LLL get in selling the OS distribution rights?

[FilmBuff]

Maybe I missed your review tele, but how come you didn't like LLL? Thought'd it be perfect with the old school musical vibe of the 60's.

[75Live]

1 hour ago, baumer said:

Pre selling for Fellowship of the Ring made sense though. New Line

Had already put all the money into all three Lord of the Rings before they had even released the first film. It's easy for us now to see that the Lord of the Rings were going to be gigantic hits but it was a huge gamble by new line to spend 300 million dollars on those three films before they even made $1 back.

 

and you can thank Freddy Krueger for them  being able to do that   

 

 

[The Futurist]

10 minutes ago, FilmBuff said:

Maybe I missed your review tele, but how come you didn't like LLL? Thought'd it be perfect with the old school musical vibe of the 60's.

 

Tele seems to have an issue with Miss Emma Stone as an actress, hence his mild enjoyment of La La Land, amongst other things.

 

 

 

 

[Jason]

13 minutes ago, FilmBuff said:

Maybe I missed your review tele, but how come you didn't like LLL? Thought'd it be perfect with the old school musical vibe of the 60's.

 

His review here:

 

[Plain Old Tele]

18 minutes ago, FilmBuff said:

Maybe I missed your review tele, but how come you didn't like LLL? Thought'd it be perfect with the old school musical vibe of the 60's.

 

I didn't like the characters.