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Thank you Peludo. I am not criticizing you. Just was curious as you are among the most sane posters around with great prognosticating skills.
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Monday Numbers: (11/4/19) Joker passed the $300M mark
keysersoze123 replied to sfran43's topic in Numbers and Data
So Arctic dogs dropped 82%. So much for better than normal drop someone was saying in the weekend thread 🙂 -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Atom reports dont mean much though its good that it beat TLK there. TS4 did beat I2 but OW was no where close. i like our data better. -
Not bad. it has already sold 9674 tickets. This is a critical market that needs to at least do F1 admits.
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THat is why I am amazed by all the predictions of increase from 1st movie with $ strength and Frozen's gross dominated by few big markets. @peludo I know you are among the bulls and so can you break down how F2 makes 1B OS? Asia it will not do much outside few markets, I am not sensing big china break out and Latin America also dont look at Pixar level. So it needs ginormous TLK or better Europe/Aus number with increase in Korea and maintain Japan gross which is improbable.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Reason I am skeptical is it does not play as wide as TLK which had generational appeal across ages. This plays great with families with girls. Plus the biggest chain it does not have the showcount that blockbusters have. Joker started with 52 shows at empire 25 and F2 has 6!!! Even Dolby shows have not sold that great. One would expect blockbusters to fill them up very quickly. Without shows at AMC it aint hitting double digit previews. So I would wait and watch before going all in. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
As I said earlier minus cinemark its not even at blockbuster level. So New York has not done well which is so weird for a blockbuster. Philidelphia behaves similar to New York. So saying this will beat TLK is ridiculous at this point. Let us wait and watch. is only 16 days to release and so things have to move fast. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
I cannot answer that as I did not track entire chains at that time. We used to use Pulse to track back then. But we should get updates from @Porthos, @FlashMaster659 and @captainwondyful who can provide data to compare with TS4 and TLK. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Cin Prev -17514/379399 (2363 shows) Cin OD - 25188/733754 (4328 shows) Cin D2 - 30428/735045(4364 shows ) Cin D3 - 15701/73083(4316 shows). Good increase since the afternoon especially for OD and Day 2. Day 3 moved like Previews over past 6 hours. I will update in the morning which would be 24 hours. But outside Cinemark I have only looked at anecdotal data that I posted above and even at Drafthouse where shows sellout easily, thursday sales are slow but Saturday shows are filling out. Checked out few Regal theaters also is very slow including RPX shows. Regal Hacienda in bay area has not listed Imax or ScreenX. Just 2 2D and 1 3D show. So minus Cinemark the plexes have not put in lots of shows. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Thank you. I would not worry. AMC site has been a mess today. They have still put in a queue system and they have not even put out shows at blockbuster level. I would wait for few days and I am sure things will get better. That is why I would not get too excited or otherwise after half a day of PS. Its just a start. Cinemark did add shows early and put it at a blockbuster level and it has had a good start. But how it sustains after initial burst will tell the tale. Even SW9 started at 227597 tickets at AMC and as of yesterday it sold 263695. So things will taper down. Good thing for Frozen is that journey is quite short. In another 10 days we will start final week of PS when things do speed up again. -
China is the x factor. Let us see how things are once the PS opens. Japan will drop quite a bit from the last one and so will need China to make up. Few Latin American markets have their ER drop big time but the market has also expanded HUGE. So if it can pull in a TS4 in LA it will be ok. I hope @Purple Minion confirm if F2 can hit TS4 numbers in LA. Frozen may not do much in Asia outside 3 big markets. Animation rarely do great. Europe and LA would be crucial to hold on to 1st movie numbers. I would stick to 700-750m which would still be increase when you make it Exchange rate neutral. i dont think this expands in China based on what I have seen recently.
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brazil Brazil Box Office Thread
keysersoze123 replied to Fullbuster's topic in International Box Office
May be it can add another 2-3m during the break. So it needs to add 4m in next 4 weeks. Definitely possible. Nothing big is opening plus Brazil can support multiple releases. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
I checked few more AMC New York theaters(Still manual as AMC is not letting in through my script. That should change by morning). Anyway few sellouts that are likely fake. For example AMC 19th St has 2 3D shows as sellouts while 2D shows have just 18 tickets for 6PM shows. Even Lincoln Square Imax at 930PM sold just 66 tickets. Didn't @captainwondyful say it was sold out? Across 16 shows at AMC its at 516/4883. Definitely not a blazing start. But let us wait and see how things go. At Cinemark Preview numbers are at 17514 tickets. So it sold just under 3K tickets in about 5-6 hours. We are close to EOD though Cinemark has very good presense in California which should have few more hours of PS. I think it will take another week or so to double and then there is final stretch in the last week. That depends on various factors. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
I dont think it has showcount as of now to compete with TLK at AMC at least. Let me get the data once AMC stops the queue for Frozen tickets. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Update AMC Empire 25(Frozen Previews) Dolby - 105/225(6PM), 49/225(845PM) Imax - 70/303(630PM), 20/303(915PM) 2D - 6/377(7PM), 3/377(945PM) Overall - 253/1810 So +42 tickets in past 8 hours. It tapered off faster than what I thought. This is one of the busiest plexes in New York City. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
LOL. F2 is not in the same ballpark as SW9. SW9 sales is not just for previews. Its quite strong for friday/saturday and sunday is also starting to fill up. F2 is a kids flick. Its business will be spread out this thanksgiving weekend. Plus looked at AMC which is 20% of BO and its not that great compared to TLK. Showcounts are very low. Metreon does not even have previews !!!! I just dont see F2 beating SW9 opening weekend at all. Domestic total anything could happen. It could again become a phenomenon. But I am not on that train despite OD PS. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
As @Inceptionzq said above its Dolby only screenings. So only AMC will have them. I saw 103 shows listed for AMC theaters. Once the dust settles down I should be able to get numbers for them. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
@Menor was just looking at previews(or did he include OD as well). i am extrapolating overall PS from numbers seen for friday and saturday. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Sleep is kind of movie that will mostly do its ticket sales on Thursday. Plus any early rush was satisfied with shows on 10/30. Since the preview will include that, its extremely hard to guess where it will end up. I will only say the PS for Thursday shows have been weak. Lower than Gemini man. Under 40% of Dark Fate at this point. If I have to guess it would do around 1.25m previews + whatever grossed on early screenings. Doctor Sleep(T-3) AMC - 5220/81112 $65955 (462 shows) 11/4 Cin - 2080/88267 $23113(525 shows) 11/4 -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
of course. Overall PS would probably be at least 5x considering Thanksgiving falls in its 1st week. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
keysersoze123 replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Tapering off at Cinemark. Its at 14555/379399. If it continues to slow down I am thinking 18K OD PS just for previews. Menor said TLK was around 40K at T-10 and so that would be a good target to track for. I am thinking F2 will be around 3/4th of TLK PS. Once AMC opens up I can at least compare for big theaters for which I grabbed data for TLK. But really good news is it has ginormous amount of shows for D1 and D2 already and PS is well ahead of previews sales. Cin OD - overall 4329 shows 18451/733914 post 6PM 1607 shows 9543/275538 Cin D2 - overall 4364 shows 23212/735045 223682.00 post 6PM 1613 shows 3309/275478. There is a fan event at AMC but its for 10AM on Saturday. Has that happened before? Normally it happens around the time previews happen. I guess it makes sense for F2 considering the audience base will prefer Saturday Morning. I see 103 shows at AMC. None at Cinemark. -
JOKER OS THREAD // 738.5M OS // 1.074B WW
keysersoze123 replied to PanaMovie's topic in International Box Office
Unless Gitesh made a typo these are official numbers from the studio. The studio ER’s tend to be different depending on how they hedge with futures. There was a post from @RthTIFF on this. -
JOKER OS THREAD // 738.5M OS // 1.074B WW
keysersoze123 replied to PanaMovie's topic in International Box Office
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joker grossed $38.8M internationally this weekend. International total stands at $637.7M, global total stands at $936.9M.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JokerMovie?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JokerMovie</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Joker?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Joker</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BoxOffice?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BoxOffice</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/wbpictures?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wbpictures</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/jokermovie?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jokermovie</a></p>— BoxOfficeReport.com (@BORReport) <a href="https://twitter.com/BORReport/status/1191430669718605825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Just as expected